I think the Turks will have plenty of other things to sort out beefore that becomes a factor.

Totally agree but how much of the deficit could also be brought down substantially if Treasury truly tackled those companies and individuals who continue to enjoy tax avoidance and evasion schemes? HMRC is due to lose a further 21,000 staff in 'cost efficiency savings' by 2021.

@Sportyteacher.

It'll never happen, but if actions of this kind were to ever take place then the best place to start would be at the top, the central banks (along with the rest of the financial institutions).
These are the f-ckers who are really screwing us.

As 'Johnyboy' stated earlier, our economy (for decades) is screwed and far more attention should be paid to the real reasons for it being in such a state.
But it's far easier to blame Brexit and immigrants.

Buy Litecoin.

The 45% is a really naughty stat, it doesnt include the 16-17 year olds who are able to vote in scotland, it also doesnt include the people who were 16-17 when they voted.

Im not going to try to work out the numbers but its got to be pretty close to 50-50. Even if yes is still a minority, i think the big swing will take place when article 50 is triggered.

The uk is moving a lot of services south so i think they know that indy2 is coming and they probably will probably vote yes.

Cant say i blame them, i would vote for anything that took power away from the house of lords and my faith in uk politics in general couldnt be lower...

Well, I think the point of anything depends on your objective. You want to leave the EU for the entirely reaosonable reason that you regard it as highly corrupt and in thrall to vested interests. It seems to me that leaving is not necessarily going to achieve your objective, merely reflect an internal battle amongst the elite for influence.

So, why support leaving regardless? I think there have been plenty of people concerned that leaving won't provide the real difference to people's lives that leavers hoped. Should that come to pass, then what?

That's why your generalisations matter. In assuming all 'lefty hand-wringers' concerns have no value, it seems to me you're doing the same thing as these 'elite preachers' - dismissing people's views. When the reality is that the country is divided in all sorts of ways, and unless we find common ground then a sizeable proportion of the population will resist and nothing gets done.

What do you propose?

So you're saying that support for independence is at broadly the same level as 2014?

That's a bit odd when Mr.Carney and the Bank of England are being blamed for much of the economic state....

The Scottish economy would have tough times if it voted YEs and the proposals from Salmond last time based upon an inflated oil price were a nonsense.

Even if the argument about independence came down to economics - and in my view it shouldn't - After 250 years of union you are saying that Scotland cant support its standard of living - surely that is a reason to leave and take control of your own affairs rather than staying in a relationship which as you describe is failing.

The Civil Service Brexit Administrative Policy
: Yes, yes, yes, I do see that there is a real dilemma here. In that, while it has been government policy to regard policy as a responsibility of Ministers and administration as a responsibility of Officials, the questions of administrative policy can cause confusion between the policy of administration and the administration of policy, especially when responsibility for the administration of the policy of administration conflicts, or overlaps with, responsibility for the policy of the administration of policy.
Apologies to Sir Humphrey.

Actually are civil servants the right people for this job?

More migrants will come to UK than entire EU populations if Britain stays in single market, warns think tank

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