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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 05 Feb 14 7.56am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Quote Username at 04 Feb 2014 7.41am

Quote dannyh at 04 Feb 2014 7.28am

Jules is a legend,. that word gets banded about a lot but he deserves the title.

However Henessey was not bought for £3 million to sit on the bench, and as much as I love Jules, in the cold light of day he is an average premiership keeper and Hennessey has the physical tools to be a top keeper, plus he is highly rated by wolves fans I have spoken to.

I can see Jules leaving in the summer.

You could have just ended there. Pretty sure Dom Fifield confirmed it was between 1.5m-2m.


I think it's very straightforward. At 34, Jules is towards the end of his goalkeeping career, and Hennessey, if he overcomes his injury problems, will be reaching his peek years as a goalkeeper, so at some stage depending on form and fitness, Jules will hand over his goalkeeping gloves to Hennessey.

 

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IMO, being 34 is not particularly old for a goalkeeper.
Experience is precious for the bloke between the sticks.

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 05 Feb 14 1.00pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Quote merganser at 05 Feb 2014 12.40pm


IMO, being 34 is not particularly old for a goalkeeper.
Experience is precious for the bloke between the sticks.


Not if he lets in sloppy goals.

 

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View GlaziertoEagle's Profile GlaziertoEagle Flag Coventry 05 Feb 14 1.36pm Send a Private Message to GlaziertoEagle Add GlaziertoEagle as a friend

Have people been noticing that Jules has started to come for a lot more balls since Pulis arrived? He has dealt with them fairly well (I can't remember any real blunders) so obviously this has been worked on and was probably identified as an area of weakness.

Personally I don't see there being a contest, Speroni is no. 1, but now we have a solid 2nd keeper.

 

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View sxp55's Profile sxp55 Flag South Norwood 05 Feb 14 1.41pm Send a Private Message to sxp55 Add sxp55 as a friend

healthy pressure is always good...unless you're a holliwood actor of course.

 


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View burtmacp's Profile burtmacp Flag 05 Feb 14 4.16pm Send a Private Message to burtmacp Add burtmacp as a friend

We need strikers!!!
Jules is in great form and can last 4 to 5 more years.
Our defense is top 11 and since Ian H. left is top 4.
Our offense?
Last position.
We are missing goals!
Spend it where is needed.
STRIKERS please!
We could be top 10 if we had good strikers.
So many opportunities wasted.

 

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View jamescroydon09's Profile jamescroydon09 Flag croydon 05 Feb 14 4.43pm Send a Private Message to jamescroydon09 Add jamescroydon09 as a friend

i love jules but at the start of the season i think he let some bad goals in then he seemed to get back to his best and what i have really noticed is that he has got so much better at comming out and claming the ball his timeing seems very good , but the 2nd goal last week i really think he should have done better i know it was hit hard and low and very close to him but there was nothing stopping sticking his foot out. i know that every keeper will make misteaks and i would keep him as number 1 for now however if more goals like this start going in then i think we will have to give henessey a chance

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 05 Feb 14 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Feb 2014 9.17am

Personally I think Jules is a better keeper and that Hennessey has been bought in as a number 2 and cover. Why change a successful keeper when your fighting a relegation battle. However, we cannot expect Speroni to have another season without a break or injury, and if we lost him, I doubt either of our reserve keepers would be up to the job.

3m, if it was that much, isn't a huge amount by Premier League standards, whats more significant is his wages.

Also having a decent back up will prove useful in terms of contract negotiations, and in keeping Jules focused on form (not that he's really ever not been good for us).

Dropping Jules for Hennesey would be a risk.


I tend to agree. As regards getting in a striker I'd be very surprised that the club didn't look into this. However looking at the transfers completed a lot of the Championship targets didn't move, Rhodes, Le Fondre, Ings etc. Probably due to silly money. The Prem league was a very narrow market due to its current makeup. No team in the bottom would of given us anybody useful in that area, as that would of been suicide on their part. Players like Kenwynne Jones wouldn't of added much if any to the team. Players from the top could only be on loans due to money but what strikers were there up there ? This only leaves a punt at an overseas striker. Overall we have strengthened the midfield wisely and have Glenn to return, who clearly knows where the net is.

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View HolmesdaleUpper's Profile HolmesdaleUpper Flag Sanderstead 05 Feb 14 8.49pm Send a Private Message to HolmesdaleUpper Add HolmesdaleUpper as a friend

Now I have a theory, I could be completely wrong but how does this sound? Only two of the new guys have been signed to go straight into the team. Ledley for KG & Ince for Bolasie. Hennessey is cover for Speroni in case of injury or loss of form plus competition (has anyone else noticed how Jules has started to come for crosses in the last month? Gabbidon's contract is up at the end of the season and whilst he has done well recently are we likely to renew his contract? So Dann cover & long term replacement. Could be wrong but it makes sense.

 

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View seeweedhater's Profile seeweedhater Flag London 06 Feb 14 3.56pm Send a Private Message to seeweedhater Add seeweedhater as a friend

Also what this thing about heights,taller keepers struggle to to get down quickly,Jules reigns at present.

 

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View blind eagle's Profile blind eagle Flag Covington.Tennessee 06 Feb 14 6.02pm Send a Private Message to blind eagle Add blind eagle as a friend

Quote Hansy at 04 Feb 2014 12.35pm

Jules is 34, and will soon start to fade. You don't get many keepers like friedel who can keep going until they are 40.

WH is 27 so I will see him as a future replacement for Jules.

Funds rising £3m is a good investment for a keeper who will be starting next season or the season after.


It would seem as though Pulis agrees with you when it comes to Speroni's age but as already mentioned on this topic,experience between the sticks is worth a lot and Hennessey does not have it. His track record is not what I would call illustrious and his injury problems are worrying by the frequency. If he has to complete learning his trade with us I cannot see why we should spend as much as we did. I must say I'm some what confused by our recent dealings in the market which did not include our landing a striker for however much it takes as this expense could have been partially offset by what we spent on Hennessey. However,as I have been supporting The Palace for seventy years I guess I have become conditioned to our unplanned or lack of transparent forays into the market.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 06 Feb 14 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Haven't seen any announcements that Jules has been offered or about to sign a new contract apart from some half arsed effort on Sky.

Seeing as he's such an important figure and we are facing a relegation battle think this is piss poor.

 

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