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Hang on, Ive just realised that ours is 20%! Tax is 0 in both up to £11.5k, and then both are 20% up to £24k. So if I have done the maths here, if you are on £25k a year, we would pay £2'700 a year and they would pay £2'710 (83p per month more). Even bigger numbers say £45k (I think thats the border for the next tax bracket, we would pay £6'700 per year and they would pay £7'120 (£35 a month more). If I have got any maths wrong, feel free to pull me up on it. Nobody on £25k a year argues over 83p a month and nobody on £45k a year argues over £35 a month, not when you look at all the cool stuff they get for free that we get so annoyed about. Also they have to keep infrastructure running in some of the most remote places in Europe. I can imagine the people of the Orkney islands probably dont mind a little extra so they dont lose their hospital when the nearest one is a 300 mile boat ride away...
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
Hang on, Ive just realised that ours is 20%! Tax is 0 in both up to £11.5k, and then both are 20% up to £24k. So if I have done the maths here, if you are on £25k a year, we would pay £2'700 a year and they would pay £2'710 (83p per month more). Even bigger numbers say £45k (I think thats the border for the next tax bracket, we would pay £6'700 per year and they would pay £7'120 (£35 a month more). If I have got any maths wrong, feel free to pull me up on it. Nobody on £25k a year argues over 83p a month and nobody on £45k a year argues over £35 a month, not when you look at all the cool stuff they get for free that we get so annoyed about. Also they have to keep infrastructure running in some of the most remote places in Europe. I can imagine the people of the Orkney islands probably dont mind a little extra so they dont lose their hospital when the nearest one is a 300 mile boat ride away... Well I guess the tax goes to pay for the £414 million that their parliament building cost, along with the £72 million a year it costs to run their parliament. Just what the UK needs, yet more government alongside Whitehall, the EU, various regional assemblies and mayors. Just what we need, yet more politicians and officials telling us how to run our lives, how they know best, and their need to regulate everything we do. All accompanied by massive inefficiency, waste and stupid 'projects' and 'initiatives'. Giving more tax to governments is like giving more whiskey to an alcoholic.
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
Hang on, Ive just realised that ours is 20%! Tax is 0 in both up to £11.5k, and then both are 20% up to £24k. So if I have done the maths here, if you are on £25k a year, we would pay £2'700 a year and they would pay £2'710 (83p per month more). Even bigger numbers say £45k (I think thats the border for the next tax bracket, we would pay £6'700 per year and they would pay £7'120 (£35 a month more). If I have got any maths wrong, feel free to pull me up on it. Nobody on £25k a year argues over 83p a month and nobody on £45k a year argues over £35 a month, not when you look at all the cool stuff they get for free that we get so annoyed about. Also they have to keep infrastructure running in some of the most remote places in Europe. I can imagine the people of the Orkney islands probably dont mind a little extra so they dont lose their hospital when the nearest one is a 300 mile boat ride away... Far from losing - a new hospital is being built just outside Kirkwall.
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
Hang on, Ive just realised that ours is 20%! Tax is 0 in both up to £11.5k, and then both are 20% up to £24k. So if I have done the maths here, if you are on £25k a year, we would pay £2'700 a year and they would pay £2'710 (83p per month more). Even bigger numbers say £45k (I think thats the border for the next tax bracket, we would pay £6'700 per year and they would pay £7'120 (£35 a month more). If I have got any maths wrong, feel free to pull me up on it. Nobody on £25k a year argues over 83p a month and nobody on £45k a year argues over £35 a month, not when you look at all the cool stuff they get for free that we get so annoyed about. Also they have to keep infrastructure running in some of the most remote places in Europe. I can imagine the people of the Orkney islands probably dont mind a little extra so they dont lose their hospital when the nearest one is a 300 mile boat ride away... The effect on peoples' pockets can swing elections. But I see your point, if it's actually put to use and not to prop up a poor performing SNP Scottish parliament.
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I'd be in favour of this. I'm glad the thread finally got back on topic. With the national deficit at it's current levels, how far to do cut services to balance the books? Going with Rudi's figures the money isn't crippling and it only targets those earning decent money. It isn't a stealth tax of which there are far too many that in the implementation are costly, and of little benefit to all and aggressive to the few.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Well I guess the tax goes to pay for the £414 million that their parliament building cost, along with the £72 million a year it costs to run their parliament. Just what the UK needs, yet more government alongside Whitehall, the EU, various regional assemblies and mayors. Just what we need, yet more politicians and officials telling us how to run our lives, how they know best, and their need to regulate everything we do. All accompanied by massive inefficiency, waste and stupid 'projects' and 'initiatives'. Giving more tax to governments is like giving more whiskey to an alcoholic. £72m a year to run the scottish government? How much is ours? I only say that because I have heard a few people mention that the HOP and house of lords are a little bit extravagant. I have a feeling that scotlands one is a hell of a lot more efficient than ours...
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Scotlands government building is modern but Westminster has been falling to bits for years and will close soon to prevent the roof falling in. And that's so much like the tories running of the economy keep spending for short-term gain someone else will just have to fix it later.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Scotlands government building is modern but Westminster has been falling to bits for years and will close soon to prevent the roof falling in. And that's so much like the tories running of the economy keep spending for short-term gain someone else will just have to fix it later. Excuse me? Where have you been for the last 5 decades?
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Excuse me? Where have you been for the last 5 decades? Thanks for flagging up my post.
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Originally posted by europalace
In my experience of living in several EU countries, no more than anywhere else and often much less. The UK really does have an 'us and them' mentaity, one of the reasons I decided to move my family away all those years ago. My friends who still live there say it's much, much worse now. Still, you obviously fit in very well there and like it Austria is now the only Western European state with a governing far-right party, which is opposed to migration and the European Union. [Link] Fit it well there and like it?
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council taxes need to be part of the discussion. These are getting out of control. Mine alone have risen 35% in past 3 years
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Austria is now the only Western European state with a governing far-right party, which is opposed to migration and the European Union. [Link] Fit it well there and like it? It is a coalition they are part of the new government under the existing PM. The new government is both pro-EU and committed to the European convention on human rights.
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