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dreamwaverider London 05 Jan 19 9.25am
Originally posted by Bald---Eagle I don't see a problem with Dazza and I appreciate his comments. Transfer windows are about large sums of money involved, the competition from clubs and the various stake-holders (agents, players, clubs, owners, managers, FA, fans, media etc). Fans and the media do not feature high in the above list, nor should they. So don't expect to hear much from managers on TV about the potential of any transfer deals. Deals are about negotiation. You don't give anything away. I'm not going to tell a car seller how much I really want his car or my bottom line. And why have egg on your face? Club negotiators are negotiating deals involving budgets, accountants, player profiles, etc and the manager has to shut-the-f--k-up. Of course clubs discuss future deals prior to the window, but if their 'Solanke' is a hospital case, do you think they're going to let another club know? I'd be surprised if Solanke turns out to be value for Bournemouth. My bet is that they were conned. Then again, maybe we were conned and Solanke faked unfitness for a lucrative deal? We'll see. No one knows until the deal is signed. Not Dazza, not Parish, no-one. That's transfers. Edited by Bald---Eagle (04 Jan 2019 7.09pm) Conned? We have first hand experience of that from the scousers. AKA Benteke.

dreamwaverider

London 05 Jan 19 9.25am

Originally posted by Bald---Eagle

I don't see a problem with Dazza and I appreciate his comments.

Transfer windows are about large sums of money involved, the competition from clubs and the various stake-holders (agents, players, clubs, owners, managers, FA, fans, media etc).

Fans and the media do not feature high in the above list, nor should they.

So don't expect to hear much from managers on TV about the potential of any transfer deals. Deals are about negotiation. You don't give anything away. I'm not going to tell a car seller how much I really want his car or my bottom line. And why have egg on your face? Club negotiators are negotiating deals involving budgets, accountants, player profiles, etc and the manager has to shut-the-f--k-up.

Of course clubs discuss future deals prior to the window, but if their 'Solanke' is a hospital case, do you think they're going to let another club know?

I'd be surprised if Solanke turns out to be value for Bournemouth. My bet is that they were conned.

Then again, maybe we were conned and Solanke faked unfitness for a lucrative deal?

We'll see. No one knows until the deal is signed. Not Dazza, not Parish, no-one. That's transfers.

Edited by Bald---Eagle (04 Jan 2019 7.09pm)

Conned? We have first hand experience of that from the scousers. AKA Benteke.

dreamwaverider London 05 Jan 19 9.35am
Even if Danza does know some people in our transfer management, it makes little difference, because the whole transfer business is one of horsetrading. Nobody really knows what is going on including the likes of our Chairman. One thing that would be great to know is what actually happened. Why did our deal with Solanke really fail? Anything on that Danza? In the meantime it seems tome that Danza’s remarks on our plans are closely aligned to the clubs plans.

dreamwaverider

London 05 Jan 19 9.35am

Even if Danza does know some people in our transfer management, it makes little difference, because the whole transfer business is one of horsetrading. Nobody really knows what is going on including the likes of our Chairman. One thing that would be great to know is what actually happened. Why did our deal with Solanke really fail?
Anything on that Danza? In the meantime it seems tome that Danza’s remarks on our plans are closely aligned to the clubs plans.

dreamwaverider London 05 Jan 19 9.37am
Apologies Dazza. Bloody spell check

dreamwaverider

London 05 Jan 19 9.37am

Apologies Dazza. Bloody spell check

Jacey 05 Jan 19 10.11am
Well making a start clearing the decks with four departures. Missed out on Defoe ( usual procrastination) and Solanke ,who will be fit to play in a week,has signed permanently for Bournemouth.Would surely have been worth a 6 month loan deal as we play Liverpool next (would not be eligible to play) and today we are in Cup action. Are we going to see a replay of previous windows apart from the rather excellent window when BFS was allowed to have his say???

Jacey

05 Jan 19 10.11am

Well making a start clearing the decks with four departures.

Missed out on Defoe ( usual procrastination) and Solanke ,who will be fit to play in a week,has signed permanently for Bournemouth.Would surely have been worth a 6 month loan deal as we play Liverpool next (would not be eligible to play) and today we are in Cup action.

Are we going to see a replay of previous windows apart from the rather excellent window when BFS was allowed to have his say???

Nobbybm Dartford 05 Jan 19 10.30am
Originally posted by Jacey Well making a start clearing the decks with four departures. Missed out on Defoe ( usual procrastination) and Solanke ,who will be fit to play in a week,has signed permanently for Bournemouth.Would surely have been worth a 6 month loan deal as we play Liverpool next (would not be eligible to play) and today we are in Cup action. Are we going to see a replay of previous windows apart from the rather excellent window when BFS was allowed to have his say??? Why have we ‘missed out’ on Defoe? Unless you know better he was never on our radar. Did we also miss out on Pulisic? Also not sure where the ‘fit in a week’ comes from - our medical/sports science dept clearly don’t think so & we do not have any match fit strikers to work with in the meantime. Bournemouth do & look to be readying themselves to let Wilson go for big money. Another luxury we don’t have. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

Nobbybm

Dartford 05 Jan 19 10.30am

Originally posted by Jacey

Well making a start clearing the decks with four departures.

Are we going to see a replay of previous windows apart from the rather excellent window when BFS was allowed to have his say???

Why have we ‘missed out’ on Defoe? Unless you know better he was never on our radar. Did we also miss out on Pulisic?

Also not sure where the ‘fit in a week’ comes from - our medical/sports science dept clearly don’t think so & we do not have any match fit strikers to work with in the meantime. Bournemouth do & look to be readying themselves to let Wilson go for big money. Another luxury we don’t have.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 19 10.33am
Originally posted by Nobbybm Why have we ‘missed out’ on Defoe? Unless you know better he was never on our radar. Did we also miss out on Pulisic? Also not sure where the ‘fit in a week’ comes from - our medical/sports science dept clearly don’t think so & we do not have any match fit strikers to work with in the meantime. Bournemouth do & look to be readying themselves to let Wilson go for big money. Another luxury we don’t have. There was no interest in signing Defoe.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 19 10.33am

Originally posted by Nobbybm

Why have we ‘missed out’ on Defoe? Unless you know better he was never on our radar. Did we also miss out on Pulisic?

There was no interest in signing Defoe.

Midlands Eagle 05 Jan 19 10.40am
Originally posted by Jacey Missed out on Defoe (usual procrastination) Roy was on record as saying that Defoe hadn't been discussed. Dazza seems to have some knowledge of what's going on and he says that we have more than one target so let's just wait and see.

Midlands Eagle

05 Jan 19 10.40am

Originally posted by Jacey

Missed out on Defoe (usual procrastination)

Roy was on record as saying that Defoe hadn't been discussed.

Dazza seems to have some knowledge of what's going on and he says that we have more than one target so let's just wait and see.

dazza Wallington 07 Jan 19 9.28pm
Update: 3 of the strikers that we are looking at are Niasse, Origi & Batshuayi I have been told by a reliable source that talks have taken place tonight in regards Origi and a move could happen not sure if it is permanent or loan. My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer. Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal. Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy. Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm) Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm)

dazza

Wallington 07 Jan 19 9.28pm

Update:

3 of the strikers that we are looking at are Niasse, Origi & Batshuayi I have been told by a reliable source that talks have taken place tonight in regards Origi and a move could happen not sure if it is permanent or loan.

My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer.

Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal.

Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy.

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm)

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm)

Bullhorn76 Darlington 07 Jan 19 9.33pm
Originally posted by dazza Update: 3 of the strikers that we are looking at are Niasse, Origi & Batshuayi I have been told by a reliable source that talks have taken place tonight in regards Origi and a move could happen not sure if it is permanent or loan. My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer. Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal. Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy. Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm) Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm) Wow I do hope at least some of what you’re saying is true

Bullhorn76

Darlington 07 Jan 19 9.33pm

Originally posted by dazza

Update:

My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer.

Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal.

Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy.

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm)

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm)

Wow I do hope at least some of what you’re saying is true

NickinOX Sailing country. 07 Jan 19 10.36pm
Originally posted by Jacey Well making a start clearing the decks with four departures. Missed out on Defoe ( usual procrastination) and Solanke ,who will be fit to play in a week,has signed permanently for Bournemouth.Would surely have been worth a 6 month loan deal as we play Liverpool next (would not be eligible to play) and today we are in Cup action. Are we going to see a replay of previous windows apart from the rather excellent window when BFS was allowed to have his say??? First, what is your actual evidence that we were ever even in for Defoe. Second, from what the club, and Warnock, have said about Liverpool things changed after a deal was agreed. Also, when the club said Solanke was injured and would not be able to come straight into the team, that has turned out to be true. So, 0 from 2 claims so far. January 14: Ince, Dann, Ledley, Hennessey, Puncheon. January 15: Mutch, Zaha, Souare, Anderson, Sanogo, Lee. January 16: Adebayor. January 17: Milivojovic, Van Aanholt, Schlupp, Sakho. January 18: Sorloth, Rakip, Cavalieri, Jach. Two excellent windows, one mixed, two poor. Maybe not quite as bad as you make out. We clearly need a decent striker, and some midfield creativity, but let’s not make stuff up to make a point. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 07 Jan 19 10.36pm

Originally posted by Jacey

Well making a start clearing the decks with four departures.

Are we going to see a replay of previous windows apart from the rather excellent window when BFS was allowed to have his say???

First, what is your actual evidence that we were ever even in for Defoe. Second, from what the club, and Warnock, have said about Liverpool things changed after a deal was agreed. Also, when the club said Solanke was injured and would not be able to come straight into the team, that has turned out to be true. So, 0 from 2 claims so far.

January 14: Ince, Dann, Ledley, Hennessey, Puncheon.

January 15: Mutch, Zaha, Souare, Anderson, Sanogo, Lee.

January 16: Adebayor.

January 17: Milivojovic, Van Aanholt, Schlupp, Sakho.

January 18: Sorloth, Rakip, Cavalieri, Jach.

Two excellent windows, one mixed, two poor.

Maybe not quite as bad as you make out. We clearly need a decent striker, and some midfield creativity, but let’s not make stuff up to make a point.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

chateauferret 07 Jan 19 10.36pm
Originally posted by Bullhorn76 Wow I do hope at least some of what you’re saying is true I wonder whether the words "Crystal Palace will play Tottenham Hotspur" will focus any minds. We won't be getting 30 shots at goal against those. ============ The Ferret ============

chateauferret

07 Jan 19 10.36pm

Originally posted by Bullhorn76

Wow I do hope at least some of what you’re saying is true

I wonder whether the words "Crystal Palace will play Tottenham Hotspur" will focus any minds. We won't be getting 30 shots at goal against those.

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The Ferret
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dreamwaverider London 07 Jan 19 10.58pm
Originally posted by dazza Update: 3 of the strikers that we are looking at are Niasse, Origi & Batshuayi I have been told by a reliable source that talks have taken place tonight in regards Origi and a move could happen not sure if it is permanent or loan. My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer. Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal. Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy. Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm) Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm) Origi would be a tasty signing

dreamwaverider

London 07 Jan 19 10.58pm

Originally posted by dazza

Update:

My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer.

Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal.

Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy.

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm)

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm)

Origi would be a tasty signing

mattteo 08 Jan 19 2.37am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Origi would be a tasty signing So would the other 2. I'd be happy with all of them, they're all mobile and athletic strikers who did well in their few minutes when they played. I would be inclined towards Batshuayi and Niasse more for the following reasons: Batshuayi has played this autumn and has 7 goals ( 3 for Valencia, 4 for the national team), that means he comes in fully prepared and ready, even if it's just for a loan because his price is very high Niase has not really played this autumn but would.come in very cheap at 7 millikn and we could have him long term (replacing an on-loan striker every 6 months isn't healthy) Origi hasn't really played for Liverpool either and would only be abailable on loan as I know they're asking over 25 million, so he would fit neither of the situations above. But he is still a good player.

mattteo

08 Jan 19 2.37am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Origi would be a tasty signing

So would the other 2. I'd be happy with all of them, they're all mobile and athletic strikers who did well in their few minutes when they played.

I would be inclined towards Batshuayi and Niasse more for the following reasons:

Batshuayi has played this autumn and has 7 goals ( 3 for Valencia, 4 for the national team), that means he comes in fully prepared and ready, even if it's just for a loan because his price is very high

Niase has not really played this autumn but would.come in very cheap at 7 millikn and we could have him long term (replacing an on-loan striker every 6 months isn't healthy)

Origi hasn't really played for Liverpool either and would only be abailable on loan as I know they're asking over 25 million, so he would fit neither of the situations above. But he is still a good player.

Midlands Eagle 08 Jan 19 8.16am
Thanks for the update dazza as it's always interesting to know what's going on in the background

Midlands Eagle

08 Jan 19 8.16am

Thanks for the update dazza as it's always interesting to know what's going on in the background

Spiderman Horsham 08 Jan 19 8.32am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Thanks for the update dazza as it's always interesting to know what's going on in the background I second this, please keep posting and don't let the negative comments put you off

Spiderman

Horsham 08 Jan 19 8.32am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Thanks for the update dazza as it's always interesting to know what's going on in the background

I second this, please keep posting and don't let the negative comments put you off

dazza Wallington 08 Jan 19 8.36am
As said last night the Sørloth deal will be completed in the next 24-48hrs.

dazza

Wallington 08 Jan 19 8.36am

As said last night the Sørloth deal will be completed in the next 24-48hrs.

palace1fan exiled in Cheshire 08 Jan 19 9.02am
Originally posted by dazza As said last night the Sørloth deal will be completed in the next 24-48hrs. I do hope so. Nice guy, but whoever brought this man in thinking he was premiership standard should have some serious questions to answer. A complete waste of money IMO. In fact if we were a half decent championship side I would be concerned if we got him in. As said nice guy but not rated by me at all. onwards and upwards, live everyday as if its ya last

palace1fan

exiled in Cheshire 08 Jan 19 9.02am

Originally posted by dazza

As said last night the Sørloth deal will be completed in the next 24-48hrs.

I do hope so.
Nice guy, but whoever brought this man in thinking he was premiership standard should have some serious questions to answer. A complete waste of money IMO.

In fact if we were a half decent championship side I would be concerned if we got him in. As said nice guy but not rated by me at all.

onwards and upwards, live everyday as if its ya last

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jan 19 9.14am
Originally posted by dazza Update: 3 of the strikers that we are looking at are Niasse, Origi & Batshuayi I have been told by a reliable source that talks have taken place tonight in regards Origi and a move could happen not sure if it is permanent or loan. My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer. Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal. Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy. Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm) Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm) My understanding a Loan at this juncture.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jan 19 9.14am

Originally posted by dazza

Update:

My thoughts would be a loan with a view to making it permanent in the summer.

Moses is still very much on the agenda and Townsend is in talks over a new deal.

Sørloth should be gone within the next week or so on loan with an option to buy.

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.30pm)

Edited by dazza (07 Jan 2019 9.31pm)

My understanding a Loan at this juncture.

Bullhorn76 Darlington 08 Jan 19 9.36am
This is scary now Williams , puncheon , mutch , and now sorloth with a possibility of Kirby going on loan as well ! I bloody well hope we have some irons in the fire other wise our team will be waferthin

Bullhorn76

Darlington 08 Jan 19 9.36am

This is scary now Williams , puncheon , mutch , and now sorloth with a possibility of Kirby going on loan as well ! I bloody well hope we have some irons in the fire other wise our team will be waferthin

Loz83 Crawley 08 Jan 19 10.18am
Cheers for the info Dazza. Please keep it coming mate.

Loz83

Crawley 08 Jan 19 10.18am

Cheers for the info Dazza. Please keep it coming mate.

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