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rattus2002 Flag 30 Apr 19 1.16am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

1. Shares open to buy. Meaningless. Newcastle have been for sale for years.

2. I’m not sure Wilf loves playing this style for the team, and therein lies the issue.

4. Reasonable track record of identifying good Premiership players at low cost? Seriously? We’ve been a joke in the transfer market apart from Pulis and partly Allardyce unless we overpay out of a Panini album, when have we really found anyone cheaper than value or intuitively? This time we’ve signed a keeper who doesn’t like leaving his line and cannot catch the ball in the air, Meyer who itsxlike Parish signed on reputation but Roy doesn’t want him, and Kouyate, who doesn’t play, but can actually carry the ball forward. Our transfer policy is poor and lacks joined up thinking.

5. Reasonable track record for t bringing youth through the academy? 2 players in 10 years, one of whom only happened because Roy was forced to, otherwise he could be playing for the Wombles now.

6. Which Premiership side wouldn't suffer if they got relegated? Nearly all of our players would have to go and the playing philosophy would take ages to change, so we’d suffer very badly, and by the time we sorted ourselves out we’d be midtable at best.

As positive as ever Rudi. There must be one element of the club you are almost satisfied with. Go on, have a think. Maybe Kayla the eagle, does that cheer you up? The cheerleaders...surely they put a smile on your face on a Saturday.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 30 Apr 19 4.11am

As we become more established in the premier it is interesting to note the different wishes of our fans.
Like him or not, Roy Hodgson has brought a huge amount of stability to the club. Like many, I have been surprised at some of his team selections etc. but he has clearly called it right.
We are at a stage where we should be good to middle the premier. This is a first for all Palace fans of 10 years plus support. We are not used to stability. We are entering new territory. I was relaxed at Selhurst on Saturday having a laugh. Enjoyed all my old heroes at half time. Mark Lazarus. Jeez, what a bloody buzz that was!! Sir John Jackson our greatest keeper ever. Tony Taylor!! The list was long. Well done Palace, that really made my day. Poor sods, all hobbled on except for Brighty. Just shows what pro football does to you long term.
So for me, Saturday was a different experience. No nerve wrenching fear as Everton pressed time and again. Totally chilled when Guaita constantly pressed for an international call. The guy was unreal.
It was so Un Palace. Just not sure what to say really. I’m confused !!
Sorry to see Benteke restored to normal after his only goal of the season performance at Arsenal. But I suppose that was to be expected. Some things will never change.
But still enjoyed an almost surreal wind swept afternoon in SE 25.

 

ChrisGC Flag Wantage 30 Apr 19 7.01am

Originally posted by Den1923

I think that is unlikely, who would want a CF who can't score or kick a ball, is lazy, has no football brain?

This is unfair. He isn't lazy, and exhibits football intelligence in his movement when deployed properly.

It's not his fault that as a head on a stick we neither have players able to deliver balls into the box nor a manager willing to set the team up to play to his strengths.

I expect a savvy manager will come in for him and we'll end up with egg on our faces .

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 30 Apr 19 7.22am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Hopefully somebody at the club has some sort of strategy for the summer and beyond but at the moment it’s difficult to fathom.

Strategy - that's a novel concept for Palace

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 30 Apr 19 7.32am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

This is unfair. He isn't lazy, and exhibits football intelligence in his movement when deployed properly.

It's not his fault that as a head on a stick we neither have players able to deliver balls into the box nor a manager willing to set the team up to play to his strengths.

I expect a savvy manager will come in for him and we'll end up with egg on our faces .

A £30mil CF who needs the ball planted on his head six yards out to make any meaningful attacking contribution and even then is more likely to miss than score.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Apr 19 8.50am

Originally posted by rattus2002

As positive as ever Rudi. There must be one element of the club you are almost satisfied with. Go on, have a think. Maybe Kayla the eagle, does that cheer you up? The cheerleaders...surely they put a smile on your face on a Saturday.

It’s my local club I’ve supporting and watching for a long time, but I’m not going to pretend all is wonderful like the previous post or probably yourself with points like us being available to buy. Yep, that’ll make the summer really good for Palace. We’re open to buy. Great. And the youth and transfer market points we’re surely a joke.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Apr 19 8.54am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

A £30mil CF who needs the ball planted on his head six yards out to make any meaningful attacking contribution and even then is more likely to miss than score.

Yep. The glimpses of him improving at the start of the season at Fulham and recently at Arsenal do not last long. I think him losing form under Roy is no coincidence but even so, he’s sh1t. I love the way instead of chasing one player down he just stands between the two. He’s a fvcking waste of space and it’s like having half a person st best as our 11th man. We’ve been carrying the cvnt.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Apr 19 9.09am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yep. The glimpses of him improving at the start of the season at Fulham and recently at Arsenal do not last long. I think him losing form under Roy is no coincidence but even so, he’s sh1t. I love the way instead of chasing one player down he just stands between the two. He’s a fvcking waste of space and it’s like having half a person st best as our 11th man. We’ve been carrying the cvnt.

He might be effective in the direct Burnley team playing in a two man strikeforce.But I doubt they could afford his wages.

In the final analysis he has a contract until the end of the next season and his wages would prove a stumbling block in terms of us offloading him.If he had been frozen out and just warming the bench this might make him want to accept a decrease in wages and leave for more regular football but he has found his way back into the side.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 30 Apr 19 9.33am

Remember AWB only got a game due to injuries, was a winger not a full back.

Look how that turned out.

We won't get much in the transfer market being priced out everywhere maybe a free agent or two?

So who is coming through, we need a couple more AWBs at least.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Apr 19 9.38am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Remember AWB only got a game due to injuries, was a winger not a full back.

Look how that turned out.

We won't get much in the transfer market being priced out everywhere maybe a free agent or two?

So who is coming through, we need a couple more AWBs at least.

He started off as a winger but I believe he had been converted into a right-back before he was given his chance in the first team.

Zaha commented that he didn't like playing against AWB in training.He said he was a hard defender to play against because somehow he manages to toe everything away.

Edited by Willo (30 Apr 2019 9.41am)

 

Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 30 Apr 19 10.01am

I would have been nice to see one or two youngsters given a chance in the remaining games, but having seen a fair bit of the U23s I don't think anyone is close.
I think the main hope would be for Kirby to develop next year to a regular in the squad.

 

Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 30 Apr 19 4.38pm

Originally posted by Painter

2. Wilf signed a 5 year contract last summer after Roys contract was extended, not actions of someone not happy.

4 Every club buys some duds, if you can name a club where every signing is a success, feel free. Your comments regarding Guaita are churlish, for a free transfer he has been excellent, Speroni cant catch crosses and is a club legend.

5. Jordan dismantled the Academy, it takes time to re establish. 3 players in 10 1 years Clyne, Zaha and AWB.

I can see none of the players we want to keep leaving, with a few decent additions now the FFP has been reset and we will be fine.

What do you mean when you say FFP has been reset?

 


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dg1937 Flag 30 Apr 19 4.55pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I would have been nice to see one or two youngsters given a chance in the remaining games, but having seen a fair bit of the U23s I don't think anyone is close.
I think the main hope would be for Kirby to develop next year to a regular in the squad.

I do wonder how many u23 games the people crying out for young players to be given a chance have actually seen.

I agree with your assessment although I wonder if Luke Dreher might be another contender. Feeling his way back from injury, I thought he did OK against Leeds a couple of weeks back.

 

Painter Flag Croydon 30 Apr 19 7.37pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

What do you mean when you say FFP has been reset?

Basically the amortisation of our current contracts with players is being written down each year. The spending spree we had under Pardew and Allardyce, pushed us nearly in breach of FFP, spending more than you earn in simple terms.
It gets reset each year in line with your revenue and amortised contracts and wages. As we have been prudent in the last 18 months purchases and got rid of some peripheral players, we are no longer near the FFP limit.
This is a simple overlook of a very complex set of rules.

 

Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 30 Apr 19 10.10pm

Originally posted by Painter

Basically the amortisation of our current contracts with players is being written down each year. The spending spree we had under Pardew and Allardyce, pushed us nearly in breach of FFP, spending more than you earn in simple terms.
It gets reset each year in line with your revenue and amortised contracts and wages. As we have been prudent in the last 18 months purchases and got rid of some peripheral players, we are no longer near the FFP limit.
This is a simple overlook of a very complex set of rules.

Thanks. How confident do you feel that you understand it? This is a sincere question, not a passive aggressive one (if it comes across like that). My simpler view had, until I read this, been that our trailing expenditure on players' wages was extraordinarily high as a proportion of our revenue, likely taking us to the brink of FFP.

 


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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Apr 19 10.24pm

Originally posted by aashman12

Party round this dudes house.

..if you're going to wear a ginger wig in public it's gonna happen.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Apr 19 10.26pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Thanks. How confident do you feel that you understand it? This is a sincere question, not a passive aggressive one (if it comes across like that). My simpler view had, until I read this, been that our trailing expenditure on players' wages was extraordinarily high as a proportion of our revenue, likely taking us to the brink of FFP.

Meyer has been a disaster.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 30 Apr 19 10.56pm

Originally posted by dg1937

I do wonder how many u23 games the people crying out for young players to be given a chance have actually seen.

I agree with your assessment although I wonder if Luke Dreher might be another contender. Feeling his way back from injury, I thought he did OK against Leeds a couple of weeks back.

Very erratic scores from our lot this season, seems to be no consistency at all anywhere.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 May 19 12.34am

Originally posted by Painter

2. Wilf signed a 5 year contract last summer after Roys contract was extended, not actions of someone not happy.

4 Every club buys some duds, if you can name a club where every signing is a success, feel free. Your comments regarding Guaita are churlish, for a free transfer he has been excellent, Speroni cant catch crosses and is a club legend.

5. Jordan dismantled the Academy, it takes time to re establish. 3 players in 10 1 years Clyne, Zaha and AWB.

I can see none of the players we want to keep leaving, with a few decent additions now the FFP has been reset and we will be fine.

2. Wilf was happy last season. Then came the summer. This season he isn’t. You may be right in that he doesn’t leave, because he’s been so disappointing mostly, partly down to Wilf and Foy.

4. The problem with a keeper being excellent for a free transfer may not be good enough when it comes down to it. He has very little presence. I was hopeful at first because despite that near gaffe vs Vardy I thought he was pretty good on the ball, but he’s a keeper and I get the impression he’s never going to master the aerial part of prem football. SPeroni had his faults (flapping v QPR at home, needlessly coming off his line vs Coventry etc), but I make him much better than Guaita, who’ll get targeted with balls he can’t deal with. Prem managers are more ruthless as we go.

Some duds? How about too many? Jack, Rakip, Schlupp (in addition to PVA) because we didn’t buy a LB 4 months before, Meyer, who Roy doesn’t want but Parish did, and the evidence was the photo shoot stunt thing.

5. I agree. I said so when some were thinking FDB would be producing stars within a few years. I said it would probably be after he left, and by that I meant a decent run as manager.

I thought I said before 2010, meaning after they bought the club for a few million. Clyne had been playing regularly before then under Warnock, and at left back.

I want what’s best for us and I’m not one to convince myself some things are great when I see there’s issues. Hopefully things will improve.

 


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sprites Flag Auckland 01 May 19 3.37am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

2. Wilf was happy last season. Then came the summer. This season he isn’t. You may be right in that he doesn’t leave, because he’s been so disappointing mostly, partly down to Wilf and Foy.

4. The problem with a keeper being excellent for a free transfer may not be good enough when it comes down to it. He has very little presence. I was hopeful at first because despite that near gaffe vs Vardy I thought he was pretty good on the ball, but he’s a keeper and I get the impression he’s never going to master the aerial part of prem football. SPeroni had his faults (flapping v QPR at home, needlessly coming off his line vs Coventry etc), but I make him much better than Guaita, who’ll get targeted with balls he can’t deal with. Prem managers are more ruthless as we go.

Some duds? How about too many? Jack, Rakip, Schlupp (in addition to PVA) because we didn’t buy a LB 4 months before, Meyer, who Roy doesn’t want but Parish did, and the evidence was the photo shoot stunt thing.

5. I agree. I said so when some were thinking FDB would be producing stars within a few years. I said it would probably be after he left, and by that I meant a decent run as manager.

I thought I said before 2010, meaning after they bought the club for a few million. Clyne had been playing regularly before then under Warnock, and at left back.

I want what’s best for us and I’m not one to convince myself some things are great when I see there’s issues. Hopefully things will improve.

None of those are dudes.

 

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