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cryrst The garden of England 28 Jun 19 5.19pm |
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I should but I cant be bothered. I used to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week on site. My God I was knackered and still skint. I did depend on it tbh but now without it I'm just above the water line. You only get So many steps So many breaths So many heart beats. Poor NDP on here. I hope hes ok but sadly the dice rolled wrong for him. Brutal but true. I'm not wasting it working.
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matthau South Croydon 28 Jun 19 5.27pm |
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I was working 30-80 hours on top of my full time hours each month to cover mrs visa issues and bad investment decisions
Only now starting to slow down after 7 years of hardly any life. Haven’t even afforded more than two palace matches on that time
Sometimes overtime’s essential. But your right
Life’s too short
There’s a guy in work who even puts me to shame and works all God’s hours. But he’s the type that if he didn’t work....would prob keel over and die because he needs to stay busy and he’s late 70s and I’m 42
Whatever floats ya boat eh
Edited by matthau (28 Jun 2019 5.28pm)
Edited by matthau (28 Jun 2019 5.29pm)
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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jun 19 5.28pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I should but I cant be bothered. I used to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week on site. My God I was knackered and still skint. I did depend on it tbh but now without it I'm just above the water line. You only get So many steps So many breaths So many heart beats. Poor NDP on here. I hope hes ok but sadly the dice rolled wrong for him. Brutal but true. I'm not wasting it working.
You have a point I discovered my mistake too late.
I spent 20 years as a career guy putting in face time in the office, I was paid well and got promoted.
A colleague joined around the same time as me but we didn't work in the same department until the end of our careers. He told me he always refused to work overtime as he felt his family was more important (I think he was just lazy).
Anyway who was the mug? (Yup it was me). We were both made redundant at the same time on the same salary and grade so where did all that overtime get me. Oh I forgot to mention OT was unpaid in our line of work.
One more point
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Jun 19 5.33pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
You have a point I discovered my mistake too late.
I spent 20 years as a career guy putting in face time in the office, I was paid well and got promoted.
A colleague joined around the same time as me but we didn't work in the same department until the end of our careers. He told me he always refused to work overtime as he felt his family was more important (I think he was just lazy).
Anyway who was the mug? (Yup it was me). We were both made redundant at the same time on the same salary and grade so where did all that overtime get me. Oh I forgot to mention OT was unpaid in our line of work.
Ow gawd sorry about that. It is something that some people need to survive. I'm not buying the we should be paid more line though. Life is really the luck of the draw. That's a bit religious but true and you choose your path. Left or right has a different outcome. Every decision is left or right. Remember the only person you can really trust is you because ultimately it is your choice. I get babies. Choose wisely with luck a lot of the time and you will get there. Choose badly and oh s***.
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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jun 19 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Ow gawd sorry about that. It is something that some people need to survive. I'm not buying the we should be paid more line though. Life is really the luck of the draw. That's a bit religious but true and you choose your path. Left or right has a different outcome. Every decision is left or right. Remember the only person you can really trust is you because ultimately it is your choice. I get babies. Choose wisely with luck a lot of the time and you will get there. Choose badly and oh s***.
Don't be sorry and I am not angry I was a goal driven person so even if I had known I probably would have made the same decisions in life. It was just ironic that my colleague made the better lifestyle choices and still got the rewards.
Many of my friends work in the building trade they put in the hours because they need the money, I did have the choice unlike them.
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ChrisGC Wantage 28 Jun 19 5.51pm |
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I wouldn't work for nothing. All this face time and networking trying to get up the greasy pole must pay dividends as plenty do it.
Personally, I value money above everything else so I wouldn't work a single minute unless I was being paid for it.
When I was employed I worked all the overtime I could get, then recession hit and there were pay cuts, redundancies and all of a sudden people were willing to do the overtime unpaid to gain favour. Scabs.
I set up my own business and work more hours than ever, but I make sure I earn out of it. Best thing I ever did.
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matthau South Croydon 28 Jun 19 6.03pm |
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Oh I get paid for my ot
Fk doing it for getting in peoples good books
Never!
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Jun 19 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by matthau
Oh I get paid for my ot
Fk doing it for getting in peoples good books
Never!
Hey you must get paid for watching football. Your knowledge on players is second to none 
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Midlands Eagle 28 Jun 19 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Hey you must get paid for watching football. Your knowledge on players is second to none 
Are you confusing him with mattteo?
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matthau South Croydon 28 Jun 19 8.18pm |
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Think he is
Matteo is a Guy from trannysilvannia or somewhere
I’m from south Croydon
Matthau. As in the comic actor Walter Matthau
Oh it’s a Friday night
Who cares x
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Jun 19 8.30pm |
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Doh Too many white beers hicks
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Jun 19 8.31pm |
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Hic ffs Even that looked pissed
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martin2412 Living The Dream 28 Jun 19 8.43pm |
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Each to their own, but I've never believed in overtime. If the firm can't pay me enough to live on in normal hours, then they're taking the piss. They don't deserve people putting themselves out to help them out when they're busier than normal and obviously raking it in.
If voluntary overtime is paying for luxuries then fair enough, but if it's just to make ends meet then there's obviously something wrong.
There's more to life than work.
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cryrst The garden of England 29 Jun 19 7.30am |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Each to their own, but I've never believed in overtime. If the firm can't pay me enough to live on in normal hours, then they're taking the piss. They don't deserve people putting themselves out to help them out when they're busier than normal and obviously raking it in.
If voluntary overtime is paying for luxuries then fair enough, but if it's just to make ends meet then there's obviously something wrong.
There's more to life than work.
But surely if you dont earn enough in the job you chose then you either chose the wrong job or are living above your means. Many people live above their means. I have in the past. No one has to have a big TV or foreign holiday.
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Midlands Eagle 29 Jun 19 8.32am |
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Originally posted by martin2412
If the firm can't pay me enough to live on in normal hours, then they're taking the piss. They don't deserve people putting themselves out to help them out when they're busier than normal and obviously raking it in.
Just because a company is busy doesn't mean that they are raking it in. Carillion is a fine example of a company with a full order book yet still going bust
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Teddy Eagle 29 Jun 19 9.22am |
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The problem I had with overtime was that whenever it was available the people who wanted it slowed down in regular time to create a backlog while those who didn’t want it had to pick up the slack during the day. Even more annoying was that anyone over a basic grade didn’t get paid extra; they got time off in lieu which couldn’t be taken due to pressure of work. Excellent for both productivity and morale when you’ve worked a straight 19 days.
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Stirlingsays 29 Jun 19 9.41am |
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Just seen this thread, wise words and prescient for anyone starting out.
Loyalty is misguided if it's only one way, whether it's to an individual or company.
It's sensible to always be aware of the nature of the business we are in. Economically our only worth is our value to others.
Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 9.44am)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Jun 19 9.45am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The problem I had with overtime was that whenever it was available the people who wanted it slowed down in regular time to create a backlog while those who didn’t want it had to pick up the slack during the day. Even more annoying was that anyone over a basic grade didn’t get paid extra; they got time off in lieu which couldn’t be taken due to pressure of work. Excellent for both productivity and morale when you’ve worked a straight 19 days.
I worked on IT projects the management insisted on working Saturdays and Sundays to catch up. My staff were exhausted and I tried and failed to stop this. When you know you are working overtime you naturally slow down. It's like running a marathon you pace yourself.
You are better off working smarter than harder.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 29 Jun 19 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I should but I cant be bothered. I used to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week on site. My God I was knackered and still skint. I did depend on it tbh but now without it I'm just above the water line. You only get So many steps So many breaths So many heart beats. Poor NDP on here. I hope hes ok but sadly the dice rolled wrong for him. Brutal but true. I'm not wasting it working.
Interesting post from an interesting poster.
I feel Work is a deep rooted issue. If I look at myself for example, a self confessed workaholic.
I came from a humble background and worked my ass of for years to better myself (whatever that means) I’m nowadays far more comfortable however I don’t really know how to relax or switch off, in fact, I am never really happier than when working on something which, will in my eyes, push me further forward in life.
Love my kids and family etc, love Palace but I constantly feel compelled to be working on something.
"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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ChrisGC Wantage 29 Jun 19 2.15pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Interesting post from an interesting poster.
I feel Work is a deep rooted issue. If I look at myself for example, a self confessed workaholic.
I came from a humble background and worked my ass of for years to better myself (whatever that means) I’m nowadays far more comfortable however I don’t really know how to relax or switch off, in fact, I am never really happier than when working on something which, will in my eyes, push me further forward in life.
Love my kids and family etc, love Palace but I constantly feel compelled to be working on something.
You just sound like a normal bloke to me, great attitude.
If everyone was like this the world would have half its problems sorted.
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