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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 23 Sep 19 2.10pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Red and blue review podcast suggest that a condition of his loan is that if he plays 15 games we then have to buy him!

Surely we cant be holding him back because of this clause??

Bet we do, probably league games that's why he may have played in the cup, we wont pay 14m for a bench warmer, sad though seemed to do well at Cardiff, maybe not Roy's style

 


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thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 30 Sep 19 2.14pm

Was watching on several occasions last season (Cardiff). Cool and calm with clearly a football-brain (quite opposite Schlupp) - no idea why he is not in our starting 11. Like Max Meyer who came on Saturday and provided Zaha with the clever pass that in the end led to 2-0.
At least give him a chance, Roy and not only 5 from 85th min.

 

Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 30 Sep 19 3.10pm

Schlup's value has been discussed at length else where. I saw VC play 90 mins v Colchester, and he hardly set the world alight (and Max was even worse).
Roy is in charge and I trust his judgement. He sees these guys train day in day out. The football may not be pretty but it is very effective.

 

HolmesdaleUpper Flag Sanderstead 30 Sep 19 4.01pm

100% agree. Not only the Colchester game but also the first U23 game where he looked ok but not any better than what we have already. Probably right in that he is not showing it in training.

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Schlup's value has been discussed at length else where. I saw VC play 90 mins v Colchester, and he hardly set the world alight (and Max was even worse).
Roy is in charge and I trust his judgement. He sees these guys train day in day out. The football may not be pretty but it is very effective.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Sep 19 4.35pm

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dreamwaverider Flag London 30 Sep 19 5.14pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Red and blue review podcast suggest that a condition of his loan is that if he plays 15 games we then have to buy him!

Surely we cant be holding him back because of this clause??

Very much doubt it. If he played 10-14 games and we didn't want him then we would just drop him. If we wanted to keep him, then it wouldn't matter if he played more. We will be paying his salary so if Roy wants to use him thats fine.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 30 Sep 19 6.06pm

My Cardiff mate reckons this guy's the nuts was their best player last season and almost kept them up single handed.

So why is he deemed not good enough to even warm our bench?

 

YT Flag Oxford 30 Sep 19 6.07pm

He must be well chuffed that he decided to join us!

 


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dreamwaverider Flag London 01 Oct 19 10.17am

I seem to remember a similar start profile for Meyer. Even though he came to us as a top player he has never been given a run even though he seems really good. I dont get it. Camerasa hasn't even had a start yet. Maybe this weekend if Luka is out.
If it were me I would somehow try Cama and Meyer, but Im not manager and I would recommend Roy any day over me!!. I suppose I just dont really understand the fine detail.

 

EddieMac Flag 01 Oct 19 12.56pm

If we were bottom of the table and struggling then I could argue with Roy but we are doing well so there can be no complaints.

Every manager has a system and certain players fit that system and it is unfortunate that Meyer and Camarassa don't fit in, but with regards to Meyer he has had plenty of minutes on the pitch and has shown absolutely nothing to say he should be a starter.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Oct 19 1.09pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

If we were bottom of the table and struggling then I could argue with Roy but we are doing well so there can be no complaints.

Every manager has a system and certain players fit that system and it is unfortunate that Meyer and Camarassa don't fit in, but with regards to Meyer he has had plenty of minutes on the pitch and has shown absolutely nothing to say he should be a starter.

Why use a loan slot up then?

 

Painter Flag Croydon 01 Oct 19 1.16pm

Until the player is seen in training, it’s always going to be a gamble with any signing. Roy obviously doesn’t think he can improve his team, whereas Cahill he knew from England and starts.

 

EddieMac Flag 01 Oct 19 1.58pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Why use a loan slot up then?

Because he will get a game if we have lots of injuries. He was brought in as back up.

 

thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 01 Oct 19 4.45pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

If we were bottom of the table and struggling then I could argue with Roy but we are doing well so there can be no complaints.

Every manager has a system and certain players fit that system and it is unfortunate that Meyer and Camarassa don't fit in, but with regards to Meyer he has had plenty of minutes on the pitch and has shown absolutely nothing to say he should be a starter.

Well, did not get many minutes vs Norwich, but it was his clever pass that allowed Wilf to go on his amazing run that Andros ended with 2-0.
But Meyer and Camarassa are way ahead for Schlupp in my opinion. Guys with football brains knowing how to use it.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 01 Oct 19 5.31pm

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Well, did not get many minutes vs Norwich, but it was his clever pass that allowed Wilf to go on his amazing run that Andros ended with 2-0.
But Meyer and Camarassa are way ahead for Schlupp in my opinion. Guys with football brains knowing how to use it.

Funny thing is thai I really rate Schluppie. I know I’m the minority but clearly on same page as Roy on this one.
Thinking about my earlier comments re Cama and Meyer. Didn’t they start against Colchester? Maybe Roy saw enough that night.

 

PatrickA Flag London 01 Oct 19 7.37pm

While Roy is manager it’s unlikely we’ll see too much of Camarasa or Meyer.
Meyer has tried to adapt to Roy’s system on his opportunities but has not set the world alight.
Camarasa had some success in the Premier League and looks more likely to handle the physical aspects.
However, he has Luka, Mcarthur, Kouyate, McCarthy , Schlupp and dare I say Meyer ahead of him so it would take a major injury crisis from him to get an opportunity.
Perhaps a case of the right player at the wrong time?

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 Oct 19 6.18am

Originally posted by EddieMac

If we were bottom of the table and struggling then I could argue with Roy but we are doing well so there can be no complaints.

Every manager has a system and certain players fit that system and it is unfortunate that Meyer and Camarassa don't fit in, but with regards to Meyer he has had plenty of minutes on the pitch and has shown absolutely nothing to say he should be a starter.

Shown nothing apart from virtually setting up our second against Norwich.
Passed forwards with two on him.
Wilf crosses and Andres boshes.
Him and wilf seem to read each other well when I've seen him play centre left.
90 minutes might be out of reach atm but 30 would give him time to shine.

 

Casual Flag Orpington 02 Oct 19 6.27am

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Schlup's value has been discussed at length else where. I saw VC play 90 mins v Colchester, and he hardly set the world alight (and Max was even worse).
Roy is in charge and I trust his judgement. He sees these guys train day in day out. The football may not be pretty but it is very effective.

Agree regarding Colchester. Team of fringe players , with their chance to show what they had, none of them even looked interested or put in the required effort. A massive opportunity to players that never played on the weekend at old trafford, inc Townsend, Benteke, Meyer and Camarasa. All toilet.

 

Casual Flag Orpington 02 Oct 19 6.29am

Originally posted by cryrst

Shown nothing apart from virtually setting up our second against Norwich.
Passed forwards with two on him.
Wilf crosses and Andres boshes.
Him and wilf seem to read each other well when I've seen him play centre left.
90 minutes might be out of reach atm but 30 would give him time to shine.

I like Meyer and would like to see him getting longer as a sub, but saying he virtually set up our second v Norwich is stronging it a bit mate.

 

L.E.Eagle Flag 02 Oct 19 9.14am

It's not at all. He went forward with a clever pass instead of going backwards as we had been all half. It's the kind of thing he can do and we need to see more.

Originally posted by Casual

I like Meyer and would like to see him getting longer as a sub, but saying he virtually set up our second v Norwich is stronging it a bit mate.

 

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