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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Sep 20 9.30am
Originally posted by Ali_Campbell They are not asking for money. They just set the prices. Again, if you don’t like it, you are well within your right to take your money elsewhere You should get a job working for Palace's PR department. I don't think people in general have an issue with the prices, it's the product. They simply should not be trying to sell season tickets. And the £200 down payment for 21/22 season is unnecessary and thoughtless. The actions of a club that doesn't care about it's supporters. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Sep 20 9.30am

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

They are not asking for money. They just set the prices. Again, if you don’t like it, you are well within your right to take your money elsewhere

You should get a job working for Palace's PR department.

I don't think people in general have an issue with the prices, it's the product.

They simply should not be trying to sell season tickets.

And the £200 down payment for 21/22 season is unnecessary and thoughtless.

The actions of a club that doesn't care about it's supporters.

Old, Ungifted and White

bicycle repair man 10 Sep 20 10.12am
Originally posted by Ali_Campbell They are not asking for money. They just set the prices. Again, if you don’t like it, you are well within your right to take your money elsewhere You are totally missing the point. Lifelong fans are expected to pay up front for a product the club cannot produce, and via fans loyalty, are holding supporters seats to ransom, and it stinks.

bicycle repair man 10 Sep 20 10.12am

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

They are not asking for money. They just set the prices. Again, if you don’t like it, you are well within your right to take your money elsewhere

You are totally missing the point.
Lifelong fans are expected to pay up front for a product the club cannot produce, and via fans loyalty, are holding supporters seats to ransom, and it stinks.

Aray South London 10 Sep 20 10.26am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman YOU are exactly the type and reason why we and people here and there get walked all over. How many civic liberties were you happy to give away? Would you be ok for wine and any alcohol to be banned throughout the winter like it has been in South Africa, along with fags, to make sure nobody gets invited round to someone’s house? You’re effectively sticking up for 2 billionaires and however many multi millionaires to use fans for an interest free loan rather than their own money, which incidentally they didn’t themselves anyway after borrowing money from a bank down under wasn’t it? They’re taking the p1ss and it’s typically lazy, incompetent Palace and now Prem level arrogon their part. They probably don’t have anyone in-house who can extract from their own database or even reduce amounts. I bet if they reduced it to a more reasonable percentage to watch 25% of matches people may have not been as bothered. £500? Times 2? Plus kids? Seriously? Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2020 11.38am) Blimey - I find myself agreeing with Rudy. Completely, almost!

Aray

South London 10 Sep 20 10.26am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

YOU are exactly the type and reason why we and people here and there get walked all over. How many civic liberties were you happy to give away? Would you be ok for wine and any alcohol to be banned throughout the winter like it has been in South Africa, along with fags, to make sure nobody gets invited round to someone’s house?

You’re effectively sticking up for 2 billionaires and however many multi millionaires to use fans for an interest free loan rather than their own money, which incidentally they didn’t themselves anyway after borrowing money from a bank down under wasn’t it? They’re taking the p1ss and it’s typically lazy, incompetent Palace and now Prem level arrogon their part. They probably don’t have anyone in-house who can extract from their own database or even reduce amounts. I bet if they reduced it to a more reasonable percentage to watch 25% of matches people may have not been as bothered. £500? Times 2? Plus kids? Seriously?

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2020 11.38am)

Blimey - I find myself agreeing with Rudy. Completely, almost!

HKOwen Hong Kong 10 Sep 20 10.36am
V12....... official finance partner of CPFC.... now the interest rate is known it would be great if a competitor offered CPFC ST fans a cheaper deal. If 15000 ST holders took the finance option would generate @ 750K in interest and fees per my back of a beer mat calculation Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 10 Sep 20 10.36am

V12....... official finance partner of CPFC....

now the interest rate is known it would be great if a competitor offered CPFC ST fans a cheaper deal.

If 15000 ST holders took the finance option would generate @ 750K in interest and fees per my back of a beer mat calculation

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

foxedup 10 Sep 20 10.45am
Originally posted by Ali_Campbell Rudi, I agree with you that CPFC’s approach is expensive. My partner is a Leicester season ticket holder and their process is much better. They credit their account and for every game, money is deducted. If there is no credit, they can’t enter a ballot. She has credited her account with £70.00. Well below the figures we have to pay. However, there is ‘Freedom’ and in your opinion ‘unreasonable’. Your not contractually obliged to pay the £500-£800 or the holding fee of £200. The price has been set by the club and that’s it. They are not making any of us pay these sums. They done make us buy any shirts, hats....ANYTHING. You have the freedom to walk away and spend your hard earned money on things more reasonable. Not quite from what I know. Originally they wanted a non refundable £70, which allowed you to enter ballots for tickets for part capacity matches and keep your season ticket. If successful you pay normal full price ticket prices. If we started playing full capacity matches, then they take the pro rata money for the games after that. Problem was, if we played no games you lost your £70, which everyone kicked off about. Or if elderly didn't want to go, tough pay your money or lose the season ticket. They changed things so that If there are no games, they will now hold the £70 in account and take that off next seasons season ticket, presuming things are back to normal.

foxedup

10 Sep 20 10.45am

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

Rudi, I agree with you that CPFC’s approach is expensive. My partner is a Leicester season ticket holder and their process is much better. They credit their account and for every game, money is deducted. If there is no credit, they can’t enter a ballot. She has credited her account with £70.00. Well below the figures we have to pay.

However, there is ‘Freedom’ and in your opinion ‘unreasonable’. Your not contractually obliged to pay the £500-£800 or the holding fee of £200. The price has been set by the club and that’s it. They are not making any of us pay these sums. They done make us buy any shirts, hats....ANYTHING. You have the freedom to walk away and spend your hard earned money on things more reasonable.

Not quite from what I know.

Originally they wanted a non refundable £70, which allowed you to enter ballots for tickets for part capacity matches and keep your season ticket. If successful you pay normal full price ticket prices. If we started playing full capacity matches, then they take the pro rata money for the games after that.

Problem was, if we played no games you lost your £70, which everyone kicked off about. Or if elderly didn't want to go, tough pay your money or lose the season ticket.

They changed things so that If there are no games, they will now hold the £70 in account and take that off next seasons season ticket, presuming things are back to normal.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 11.16am
Originally posted by kenners46 It was a Tuesday night game in the 1980s, either Carlisle or Cardiff i think, may even have been Cambridge, wheres Willo Willo is on 'furlough' so im filling in for him Sat 1st Feb 1986 Div 2 v Carlisle Utd Home Att 3744 Score 1-1 This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 11.16am

Originally posted by kenners46

It was a Tuesday night game in the 1980s, either Carlisle or Cardiff i think, may even have been Cambridge, wheres Willo

Willo is on 'furlough' so im filling in for him

Sat 1st Feb 1986 Div 2 v Carlisle Utd Home Att 3744 Score 1-1

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Sep 20 11.36am
Originally posted by eagleman13 Willo is on 'furlough' so im filling in for him Sat 1st Feb 1986 Div 2 v Carlisle Utd Home Att 3744 Score 1-1 No goal scorer and accompanying player biography. Not a good start 5/10 - See Me Edited by NEILLO (10 Sep 2020 11.36am) Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Sep 20 11.36am

Originally posted by eagleman13

Willo is on 'furlough' so im filling in for him

Sat 1st Feb 1986 Div 2 v Carlisle Utd Home Att 3744 Score 1-1

No goal scorer and accompanying player biography.

Not a good start 5/10 - See Me

Edited by NEILLO (10 Sep 2020 11.36am)

Old, Ungifted and White

Brasilian Eagle Londres 10 Sep 20 12.17pm
I was at that game. Atrocious weather with it pi$$ing down the whole game. All fans on the Holmesdale were moved into the Old Stand leaving the 50 or so Carlisle fans on the open terraces. The police finally took pity on them and moved them into the Arthur but not until the second half.

Brasilian Eagle

Londres 10 Sep 20 12.17pm

I was at that game. Atrocious weather with it pi$$ing down the whole game. All fans on the Holmesdale were moved into the Old Stand leaving the 50 or so Carlisle fans on the open terraces. The police finally took pity on them and moved them into the Arthur but not until the second half.

Deleagle "Bubba's bar 'n' grill" 10 Sep 20 1.38pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Willo is on 'furlough' so im filling in for him Sat 1st Feb 1986 Div 2 v Carlisle Utd Home Att 3744 Score 1-1 I stand corrected, well found Jamie. I took averages from the history page on here so of course there were attendances of less Than 5k -.-' Sat Feb 1 Carlisle United H 1 - 1 3,744 D And I was at that game in the main stand. What can this strange device be? When I touch it it gives forth a sound. Eagles fit fans squad number 21, group 2 - =

Deleagle

"Bubba's bar 'n' grill" 10 Sep 20 1.38pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Willo is on 'furlough' so im filling in for him

Sat 1st Feb 1986 Div 2 v Carlisle Utd Home Att 3744 Score 1-1

I stand corrected, well found Jamie.

I took averages from the history page on here so of course there were attendances of less Than 5k -.-'

Sat Feb 1 Carlisle United H 1 - 1 3,744 D

And I was at that game in the main stand.

What can this strange device be?
When I touch it it gives forth a sound.

Eagles fit fans squad number 21, group 2

- =

Painter Croydon 10 Sep 20 1.40pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman YOU are exactly the type and reason why we and people here and there get walked all over. How many civic liberties were you happy to give away? Would you be ok for wine and any alcohol to be banned throughout the winter like it has been in South Africa, along with fags, to make sure nobody gets invited round to someone’s house? You’re effectively sticking up for 2 billionaires and however many multi millionaires to use fans for an interest free loan rather than their own money, which incidentally they didn’t themselves anyway after borrowing money from a bank down under wasn’t it? They’re taking the p1ss and it’s typically lazy, incompetent Palace and now Prem level arrogon their part. They probably don’t have anyone in-house who can extract from their own database or even reduce amounts. I bet if they reduced it to a more reasonable percentage to watch 25% of matches people may have not been as bothered. £500? Times 2? Plus kids? Seriously? Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2020 11.38am) Season tickets have effectively been a loan since they were first introduced. Nothing has changed in that respect, except now there is uncertainty with Covid and restrictions, it’s not the clubs fault.

Painter

Croydon 10 Sep 20 1.40pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2020 11.38am)

Season tickets have effectively been a loan since they were first introduced. Nothing has changed in that respect, except now there is uncertainty with Covid and restrictions, it’s not the clubs fault.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 1.55pm
Originally posted by Deleagle I stand corrected, well found Jamie. I took averages from the history page on here so of course there were attendances of less Than 5k -.-' Sat Feb 1 Carlisle United H 1 - 1 3,744 D And I was at that game in the main stand. No probs Del, you had hair then tho. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 1.55pm

Originally posted by Deleagle

I stand corrected, well found Jamie.

I took averages from the history page on here so of course there were attendances of less Than 5k -.-'

Sat Feb 1 Carlisle United H 1 - 1 3,744 D

And I was at that game in the main stand.

No probs Del, you had hair then tho.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 1.57pm
Originally posted by NEILLO No goal scorer and accompanying player biography. Not a good start 5/10 - See Me Edited by NEILLO (10 Sep 2020 11.36am) Oh 'sir', promise i WILL do better next time, can i bring a note from me mam & can i bring you an apple? This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 1.57pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

No goal scorer and accompanying player biography.

Not a good start 5/10 - See Me

Edited by NEILLO (10 Sep 2020 11.36am)

Oh 'sir', promise i WILL do better next time, can i bring a note from me mam & can i bring you an apple?

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

gabby01 10 Sep 20 2.04pm
Originally posted by Painter Season tickets have effectively been a loan since they were first introduced. Nothing has changed in that respect, except now there is uncertainty with Covid and restrictions, it’s not the clubs fault. But that is ultimately why it is not the same. In any previous season paying £500 upfront gave you 19 games and it was up to you if you didn't go. This season you know we will not be able to see the 17 games but are still being asked to give them the full money for those 17 games to get money back at the end of the season which doesn't even have a definitive end date.

gabby01

10 Sep 20 2.04pm

Originally posted by Painter

But that is ultimately why it is not the same. In any previous season paying £500 upfront gave you 19 games and it was up to you if you didn't go.

This season you know we will not be able to see the 17 games but are still being asked to give them the full money for those 17 games to get money back at the end of the season which doesn't even have a definitive end date.

awpalace surrey 10 Sep 20 3.16pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Really? In today’s world? What about ‘don’t pay us £500-£800 and your seat isn’t guaranteed for 21-22 oh but we will only be able to offer you seats worth £150’ You think that’s freedom. Good luck for the future. That's not what they are saying, they are asking for £200 ??

awpalace

surrey 10 Sep 20 3.16pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Really? In today’s world?

What about ‘don’t pay us £500-£800 and your seat isn’t guaranteed for 21-22 oh but we will only be able to offer you seats worth £150’

You think that’s freedom. Good luck for the future.

That's not what they are saying, they are asking for £200 ??

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Sep 20 4.11pm
I couldn't get through, so I faxed Susannah Reid, but she said Steve had already - several times. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Sep 20 4.11pm

I couldn't get through, so I faxed Susannah Reid, but she said Steve had already - several times.

Red and Blue Army!

IMpalace London 10 Sep 20 4.33pm
Normally big of of SP and what has been done at the club, but this is a bit of a stitch up. We're essentially funding the club for the next 12 months interest free. To ask fans to pay as if they're going to every game when they know that you are unlikely to even make half of them is taking the piss.

IMpalace

London 10 Sep 20 4.33pm

Normally big of of SP and what has been done at the club, but this is a bit of a stitch up.

We're essentially funding the club for the next 12 months interest free. To ask fans to pay as if they're going to every game when they know that you are unlikely to even make half of them is taking the piss.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Sep 20 4.40pm
Originally posted by awpalace That's not what they are saying, they are asking for £200 ?? Not if you’re under retirement age. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 10 Sep 20 4.40pm

Originally posted by awpalace

That's not what they are saying, they are asking for £200 ??

Not if you’re under retirement age.

COYP

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 4.44pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I couldn't get through, so I faxed Susannah Reid, but she said Steve had already - several times. Ive said it before, you are wasted on here This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Sep 20 4.44pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I couldn't get through, so I faxed Susannah Reid, but she said Steve had already - several times.

Ive said it before, you are wasted on here

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

fan Caterham 10 Sep 20 4.54pm
Not that I am going to renew but have I missed something when the first potential game with anybody attending is Brighton on 17th October why is the deadline for early bird season tickets required a full month before that date. Look forward to another extension!

fan

Caterham 10 Sep 20 4.54pm

Not that I am going to renew but have I missed something when the first potential game with anybody attending is Brighton on 17th October why is the deadline for early bird season tickets required a full month before that date.
Look forward to another extension!

Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 10 Sep 20 5.17pm
Originally posted by paceo they want medical proof to hold your seat for £200 So they say ... but I expect they'll take your money and have better things to do than ask questions. You could be legitimately shielding without formal proof. I believe 'shielding' is generally on hold but could be reintroduced if the situation deteriorates. Anyway, which ever way you approach it our club's ST proposals are absurd and will alienate many loyal supporters. Edited by Henry of Peckham (10 Sep 2020 6.24pm) Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Henry of Peckham

Eton Mess 10 Sep 20 5.17pm

Originally posted by paceo

they want medical proof to hold your seat for £200

So they say ... but I expect they'll take your money and have better things to do than ask questions.

You could be legitimately shielding without formal proof. I believe 'shielding' is generally on hold but could be reintroduced if the situation deteriorates.

Anyway, which ever way you approach it our club's ST proposals are absurd and will alienate many loyal supporters.

Edited by Henry of Peckham (10 Sep 2020 6.24pm)

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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