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steeleye20 Croydon 05 Dec 21 8.47pm |
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An amazing performance from LH with everything going for his rival.
Including brake-testing him, where the lead driver makes the second drive into his back, being over-taken from off the road, and a highly dubious barrier repair which awarded Verstappen a new set of tyres (the barrier looks just like it was before the repair).
The win makes them level on points, going into the final race.
This was just so exciting with the stop and starts, virtual this and that, these guys must be totally exhausted, I am and I am only watching.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Dec 21 5.51am |
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Can't help but feel Hamilton is playing the right strategy. Near the start of the season, he would have moaned like a biatch about Max and everything he could. Now he seems mature and resolved and quietly determined, and I feel the momentum , and the psychological war, is going in Hamilton's favour.
Edited by Forest Hillbilly (06 Dec 2021 5.52am)
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Tlsestu Toulouse 06 Dec 21 8.28am |
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Very predictable by Verstappen and Hamilton has him sussed. Assuming he has similar speed he just needs to put his car ahead on the outside coming into a turn knowing Verstappen will lunge and not make the corner leading to a likely penalty.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Dec 21 9.47am |
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Abu-Dhabi could get very messy. IF, Max takes Lewis off & doesn't score any points, Max wins championship, due to having one more win over the season. Could develop into another Senna/Prost or Schumacher/anyone scenario, hope it won't.
This has got to be one of the most dramatic seasons ever, the twist n turns(pun intended), whinging by drivers & constructors, fantastic driving & y/day was the epitome of everything that F1 is, long may it continue.
Cant wait for next week.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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Plumpton eagle East Sussex 06 Dec 21 11.25am |
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Yes, looking forward to next week. I can't help feel that Max will take any opportunity to get them both off the track and win the championship by default. This would be particularly galling as one of his wins was the farcical 2 laps behind the safety car Belgian grand prix.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 06 Dec 21 11.54am |
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It really was one of the best and worst races I’ve ever seen.
I must admit that I’m a little surprised that Lewis is dealing with Max as well as he is. The guy is a weasel. He must be so difficult to race against as he refuses to budge an inch, he’d rather crash than concede a place or back out of a move. If Lewis raced with the same intent that guys would crash every week.
I would love Lewis to win next week and go mental in front of Max. Just really need a Mercedes front row and for Bottas to do a job.
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Tlsestu Toulouse 06 Dec 21 12.27pm |
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There's a real chance he will take Lewis (and himself) out at some point during the race. Maybe the FIA should have given Max a suspended 1 point penalty which would be applied if this were to happen. Would be dissapointing if the race was over at the first corner or the chamionship won by default.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 07 Dec 21 8.02am |
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I suppose the smart money is on Hamilton. He knows how to play the game and has stopped moaning and become 'professional'. Max is more likely to lose his cool and do something contrived to take them both out. Hamilton has to be canny and avoid trouble. Although he is quite adept at engineering racing situations, whilst also swerving culpability. Max has to win, else take Hamilton off with him. Lewis, likewise.
No one is expecting a fair fight 
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The Dolphin 09 Dec 21 7.12am |
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I don't like LH but the way Verstappen has behaved of late is unbecoming of someone with his talent. To that end I hope that LH wins this championship now.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Dec 21 8.20am |
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How will Verstappen or his teammate Perez knock Hamilton off the track? They'll have to do a Schumacher. Hopefully, no one gets hurt.
Red and Blue Army!
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 09 Dec 21 8.59am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
How will Verstappen or his teammate Perez knock Hamilton off the track? They'll have to do a Schumacher. Hopefully, no one gets hurt.
Doubt he’ll get away with it these days, not that blatant anyway.
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CrazyBadger Ware 09 Dec 21 9.46am |
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If there's any kind of incident - and it's almost certain there will be - and if this results in either retiring fingers will be pointed, and most likely at verstappen. He needs to be careful, will the stewards have a biased opinion because of this?
Hamilton will not want to have any kind of contact as he needs to Finish the race in the points, whereas Verstappen can afford for them both to crash out.
It'll be an Intriguing race. Hamiltons the most successful driver ever around Abu dhabi, but Verstappen won last year...
I admire Verstappens never say die stubborness to let hamilton Pass, but he takes it too far to the point of being reckless. Here's hoping for a clean race.
"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Dec 21 11.25am |
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One consolation, CH4 will be showing the race 'live' on Sunday . . .
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This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 10 Dec 21 4.54am |
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Am just wondering when the crash will happen,...and who will get the blame. Strange perspective to have for a 'race'. 
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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Dec 21 8.57am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Am just wondering when the crash will happen,...and who will get the blame. Strange perspective to have for a 'race'. 
You would think that the FIA would publicly warn both drivers and make it clear if either impedes the other they will lose the race and championship.?
The worst outcome is if somebody gets away with it and wins the race by default I would imagine that supporters would be outraged.
One more point
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MrRobbo Chaldon 10 Dec 21 10.26am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
You would think that the FIA would publicly warn both drivers and make it clear if either impedes the other they will lose the race and championship.?
The worst outcome is if somebody gets away with it and wins the race by default I would imagine that supporters would be outraged.
They basically have done, in so much of reminding the drivers of the ethics of racing, and that not following the rules can result in points deductions.
Essentially telling Max that if you cause a crash that wipes Lewis out you aint winning the championship.
What will be really interesting is the 2nd drivers. If you were the team principles you'd be telling Bottas and Perez to race aggressively against Max and Lewis. If you clip them you clip them 
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 10 Dec 21 10.53am |
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What time crash ? 
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 10 Dec 21 11.09am |
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I recall the Senna and Prost era at McLaren, where Ron let them race; no team orders. Probably a mistake, but those two weren't going to obey team orders anyway. Senna took Mansell out in the final race of 1992, just to stop him having the record for most wins in a season,... allegedly. Schumacher,..did he or didn't he take Hill out in 1995 ? It is possible to contrive a racing accident, even in extreme circumstances. But the FIA did haul M Schumacher up in 1997 for ramming Villeneuve in the final race/title decider. It was from this point that the FIA decided they could no longer issue retrospective penalties for the following races, as this was not sufficient deterrent when the Championship was at stake. Mr Robbo raises an interesting point about assistance from team mates, but racing drivers are essentially selfish in nature and I doubt they would instigate anything, other than by limited obstructive tactics on the track or by pit stops.
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Helmet46 Croydon 12 Dec 21 9.45am |
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What is really interesting is that if MV hadn’t been ‘given’ a win in Spa, following a 2 lap race, and had the race simply have been removed from the record - as it should quite clearly have been in my opinion - then they would be bang on, neck and neck - 8 wins apiece.
Fabulous season, 2 great but vastly different drivers. Not sure either driver is particularly likeable but suspect that goes with the territory. Would prefer LH to win as there is so much more I dislike about RedBull - from MV tactics to Horners crying, bitching and disrespect but if it was, say, one of the Ferrari or McLaren drivers I’d be absolutely rooting for them - as a new era is coming in and the refresh is needed.
Having said that 8 world titles would be a magnificent achievement.
Edited by Helmet46 (12 Dec 2021 9.46am)
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 12 Dec 21 11.06am |
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Well done Channel 4 for showing it live.
I hope the race comes down to a supreme over-taking manoeuvre to validate driver supremacy,...rather than.
Tactical pit stop bore-fest Bumper cars A retirement
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