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This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stand' by Penge Eagle Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
A big stadium is not a guarantee against financial and sporting meltdown; ask Sunderland or Leeds. ............or Darlington. Built a new ground in 2003 and went into administration in 2003, 2006 and 2009!
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stand' by Penge Eagle On its way since 1861 or 1905 - you choose.
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stand' by Penge Eagle Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Being suggested in a few places that planning permission on the new stand has now lapsed so as I said some while ago this is not happening any time soon Yes, it has now lapsed. And, as we have not "broken ground", we now have to re-apply. Even assuming a similar Design and Access statement, the process is likely in practice to take a further year.
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stand' by Penge Eagle Originally posted by OldFella
Yes, it has now lapsed. And, as we have not "broken ground", we now have to re-apply. Even assuming a similar Design and Access statement, the process is likely in practice to take a further year. We have a broken ground I still love it nonetheless!
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stand' by Penge Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Key word 'maybe'. Perhaps this could be a rare occasion where you are right on Palace talk. It would be very rare wouldn't it. Big construction projects have indexation built in for almost all cases. Four types of index are widely used in construction: • Resource cost indices In most cases of huge over-run there is also another set of factors, claims. It's an industry in itself Claims commonly arise between the parties to construction contracts as a result of problems such as delays, changes, unforeseen circumstances, insufficient information and conflicts. Claims might be made for things such as loss and expense, extension of time and liquidated damages. There will just about always be claims made. You simply can't fully predict what will happen during build and clients do tend to add elements or change their minds.
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stand' by Penge Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stadium Problem' by Penge Eagle Originally posted by dreamwaverider
What a surprise.
Housing shortage is due to house builders controlling the market which on purpose they want the prices high due to massive profits they make in doing so. This is all on Palace they should have acted years ago and can't keep blaming other factors they had permission. The prices for construction have increased as well again clubs fault for waiting.
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Originally posted by Terry Ven
This is all so predictable; we don't need a stupid great unaffordable vanity project stand that completely mismatches the rest of the ground. We need a two deck stand that matches the Holmesdale which will increase capacity, not bankrupt the club (again) and not require buying Sainsbury's carpark. Or am I just being too bloody sensible? Make it a 3 tier stand and chuck in a 2 tier white horse bringing up to 40 000 and i will back your idea captain!
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
I said all along that this would never happen. I was told I was wrong and that the money was sitting in a special account and any day now all would begin. Face up to it. Of we wanted to build a new stand or even a hole stadium, had we really really wanted it it would have been built. Forget the tosh about land in London. Spurs Arsenal and Brentford have done it. This is all a bit Simon Jordanesque spin to cover up that we have a knackered old ground and not enough cash it do it up and stay competitive in the top division. But hey we don't have a shiny new stand but at least rwe have a ground with character. Yup, Mickey Mouse
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Originally posted by brides
This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stand' by Penge Eagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Stadium Problem' by Penge Eagle this just been released, sorry if posted elsewhere:-
Chairman Steve Parish and the club were granted planning permission by Croydon Council in April 2018 to rebuild the main stand. Under the proposals, the stadium capacity was to be increased by almost 10,000, to 34,259. But to fulfil its plans, the football club needed to acquire land and property from its near neighbours, including seven houses – six of them council-owned – on Wooderson Close, which backs on to the current main stand. The Wooderson Close residents have been enduring uncertainty over their homes’ futures for four years, a situation which now seems likely to continue for some time yet. Inside Croydon is full of sh*t, not impressed you have cut and pasted that here. The Section 106 wasn’t signed before the new London Plan came into force, apparently due to a breakdown in relations with Croydon Council that have now been resolved. A Section 106 is a legal agreement between an applicant seeking planning permission and the local planning authority, which is used to mitigate the impact of the new building on the local community and infrastructure. It is likely a Compulsory Purchase Order will be served on Sainsbury’s if necessary. The planning application didn’t lapse but a new one will now need to be put in, as the terms set out in the 2018 planning application do not comply with the London Plan adopted in 2021. I feel zero sympathy for the Wooderson Close residents for many reasons, not least they moved there knowing they were in the shadow of a ble*ding great big stadium. Hard to miss really. And never likely to stand still at least figuratively and possibly also literally by all accounts Edited by Mapletree (13 Jul 2022 10.34pm)
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I’d love us to build an expensive new stand, so it means we stay where we are and don’t end up in godstone/caterham or somewhere miles away.
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