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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 15 Jun 24 10.57am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Now if you want to simply be perceived as 'English' you need to speak English, adopt English customs and culture, support English sports teams, refer to yourself as an Englishman, not adhere to religions or behaviour that is anti English or runs counter to our Christian based values. Christianity ? the Romans imported it from the Middle East. After murdering all our Druids. hence, the other Middle East Religion (Islam) could be regarded as quintessentially English ? in another thousand years ? no thanks. Northern Ireland , a sectarian religious conflict. Catholic = irish. Protestant = British. Notwithstanding Tony Blair and a ton of British Elites being Catholic. Nor a significant amount of IRA types actually being Protestant for the last few hundred years. Fellas like Wolfe Tone. Religions cause more wars than they ever solve. Being Christian doesnt make you English. Half the planet is Christian. Tons of English people are atheists or 'other'.
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 Hrolf The Ganger  15 Jun 24 11.03am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Christianity ? the Romans imported it from the Middle East. After murdering all our Druids. hence, the other Middle East Religion (Islam) could be regarded as quintessentially English ? in another thousand years ? no thanks. Northern Ireland , a sectarian religious conflict. Catholic = irish. Protestant = British. Notwithstanding Tony Blair and a ton of British Elites being Catholic. Nor a significant amount of IRA types actually being Protestant for the last few hundred years. Fellas like Wolfe Tone. Religions cause more wars than they ever solve. If you read again, you will see that I said Christian based. I reject all religion. However, one cannot simply ignore the cultural and moral influence that is the basis for much that is 'English'.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Jun 24 11.12am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
one cannot simply ignore the cultural and moral influence that is the basis for much that is 'English'. The Spanish, living in Benidorm, would characterise English behaviour as vomiting & fighting in the street. Followed by defecation and copulation. The next morning being stupid with the wallet and overpaying for everything. The Polish would characterise English morals as allowing your sister to run off with a new fella. A fella who will never share his sister with you. Our Islamic friends, in the Middle East, take a very dim view of our morals. Somewhere between Oliver Reed, Lily Savage, and a p*** star. With a tad of Tony Blair carpet-bombing thrown in for good measure. The Scottish view is even more pessimistic than all of these. Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Jun 2024 11.21am)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jun 24 11.16am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
The Spanish, living in Benidorm, would characterise English behaviour as vomiting & fighting in the street. Followed by defecation and copulation. The Polish would characterise English morals as allowing your sister to run off with a new fella. A fella who will never share his sister with you. Like most humans, the English don't always practice what they or anyone else preaches. Don't get the idea that I like all Englishmen. I avoid the fookers on holiday.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Jun 24 11.26am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
the women are even worse than the men
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Jun 24 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I wondered how long it would be before being “white” crept into the argument. Compare and contrast the English football team with Every team from Eastern Europe. Our friends in the ex Soviet Union could be forgiven for mistaking the English team for the French team. And of course the football team is a metaphor for the whole nation. All racism disappears when the good wee lad scores a goal. English identity ? you are not English if you support a shyte team like Scotland. Nor if you support a successful team like Brazil. Since 1966, always the bridesmaid, but never the bride. Like Tim Henman, waving the flag proudly. All the way to the Semi-finals. Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Jun 2024 12.26pm)
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jun 24 12.00pm |
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I'm watching Trooping the Colour currently.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Jun 24 12.59pm |
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English identity ? here is a take from Mr Powell.....
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 15 Jun 24 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Why don't you try debating the issue rather than just throwing out childish insults Why don’t you refrain from telling people how to behave on here? You’re not a moderator anymore.
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| Midlands Eagle 15 Jun 24 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
You're another that harbours grudges for years I see
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| Lombardinho London 15 Jun 24 2.40pm |
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Originally we all came from Atlantis
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| palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 15 Jun 24 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You're another that harbours grudges for years I see Don’t flatter yourself. I hold no grudge, just memories of megalomaniacal overreach.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jun 24 3.23pm |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
Originally we all came from Atlantis Surely we're from the Pleiades.
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cryrst  The garden of England 15 Jun 24 3.29pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Why don't you try debating the issue rather than just throwing out childish insults Has he got a lemon for calling wissie a piece of hardware!
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jun 24 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You're another that harbours grudges for years I see A Mediterranean rather than an English trait.
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| Lombardinho London 15 Jun 24 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Surely we're from the Pleiades. Take me home!
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| Spiderman Horsham 15 Jun 24 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No settled answer. Some think only Cornish. Some both. Others just English. Take your pick.
Edited by Spiderman (15 Jun 2024 4.39pm)
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so they can choose but others can’t? eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jun 24 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
Why don’t you refrain from telling people how to behave on here? You’re not a moderator anymore.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jun 24 5.40pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Why not British like the rest of us are expected to? Who's expecting that? I, for instance, regard myself as both British and English. Some though seem to think I am only partly English.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jun 24 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who's expecting that? I, for instance, regard myself as both British and English. Some though seem to think I am only partly English. You can't be. I'm British, but not English. So, if you were born in England then you are English. You are British only because you are born within the (old) commonwealth like I was, & very fiercely proud of it. So, what is your ethnicity? Admit your being, not what your peers tell you. Be loud, be what you are. Can you understand that? Not hard is it. Or . . . Edited by eagleman13 (15 Jun 2024 6.03pm)
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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