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Wan-Bissaka - Missed Opportunity?
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 Eagleshavelanded  Tooting 13 Aug 24 4.18pm |
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| YT Oxford 13 Aug 24 4.22pm |
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It does seem to be a very low fee.
Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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beak  croydon 13 Aug 24 4.26pm |
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Because he is not very good,him and Zaha are bullets we have dodged.
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 13 Aug 24 4.47pm |
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As the right side of a back 3 I think he could have been very good. ?If used correctly, 15 mill is good business.
As a full back (which is how WH will use him) no thanks.
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| Daddyorc Atlantic Highlands, NJ 13 Aug 24 5.05pm |
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Agreed, he's very good at stopping fast wingers. He's terrible at attacking and average at stopping corners into the far post.
If he's used correctly he's a very good player. Man U used him incorrectly for most of the time he was there.
Just as a side note, I saw Man U had to pay him to go (to a lower salary). So part of the fee they received was given to the player.
Edited by Daddyorc (13 Aug 2024 5.06pm)
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| Robk 13 Aug 24 5.06pm |
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Why would we want him… he’s on big money and Muñoz is a way better player….same with Zaha…. think there are much better options….
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| YT Oxford 13 Aug 24 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by beak
Because he is not very good,him and Zaha are bullets we have dodged.
I agree, but a lot of 'not very good' players routinely change clubs for even more money than that. That's all I'm saying.
Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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| Uphill Bedford 13 Aug 24 5.12pm |
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Bit worried he has gone to West Ham as I thought he played well
for a disjointed United last season.
Won't often get an experienced and still young full back for £15 million and I think he would be a useful addition.
Like always with transfers, we shall wait and see.
Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders
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| Elphers40 Sunny South Coast 13 Aug 24 5.51pm |
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I think that until we improve the stadium- we will always be at a disadvantage in terms of attracting players to us instead of West Ham. They really were incredibly lucky to land that iconic stadium after the Olympics.
£15 million quid is very good value for a proven Premier League player - but I think LB is more of a priority position we need to get some cover for.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Aug 24 5.52pm |
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No . . .!
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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| davehuggins 13 Aug 24 5.53pm |
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We already have a far better RWB now
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| Painter Croydon 13 Aug 24 6.21pm |
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The only benefit is the possible sell on fee and not giving him a contract to 33 years of age at 90k a week = £32.7m in wages.
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| Elphers40 Sunny South Coast 13 Aug 24 7.45pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
The only benefit is the possible sell on fee and not giving him a contract to 33 years of age at 90k a week = £32.7m in wages.
Crikey! When you look at those figures no wonder AWB said in his first West Ham interview “it was a no brainer”!
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| mileend East London 13 Aug 24 7.51pm |
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He was terrible going forward for Man United - that's why he had to go and they took a £35m hit on the transfer fee
He did ok for them because they were terrible so he had to do quite a bit of the classic defensive full back role for them - which is his strength
But a wing back? Not a chance. I've done a lot of calculations and Munoz is exactly two hundred times better than him in that role.
And as a right CB in a three? Who knows? He's not played there so a risk. And we already have Clyne as cover.
What is highly amusing is that the West Ham 'Academy' rubbish is totally dead and buried. Buying a traditional big man up front and non-attacking full backs. The new Wimbledon!
Edited by mileend (13 Aug 2024 7.52pm)
Edited by mileend (13 Aug 2024 7.52pm)
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| RubinsCube Wimbledon 13 Aug 24 8.11pm |
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I see this neither as a "missed opportunity" nor as a bullet dodged.
He was a very good defender during his time with us. By all accounts he is still very good.
We also know that he is not the most dynamic overlapping full back or wing back; to compare him in this respect with the likes of Van Arnholt or Munoz would not be favourable to him.
So assuming we play in the same shape this season as we did with OG last season, would we be expecting him to compete with Munoz? In that case he would not be first choice. Would we be expecting him to operate as Ward or Clyne did last year in a back three? I've never seen him do this before so that would be an unknown.
Overall, I suspect there are better options elsewhere albeit I do really like him as a player.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 13 Aug 24 8.32pm |
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No
Why do I say that?
1. I think he was spoilt at Man U and is looking for a bigger club than Palace
2. I suspect he would want far bigger wages in future years than we would be prepared to pay him
3. I doubt he would come back to be on the sub's bench as a back-up to Munoz.
4. We have better and cheaper emergency CB options in Clyne and Ward (and probably Holding)
5. WE have more pressing needs in other areas if we were to spend £15m.
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Ouzo Dan  Behind you 14 Aug 24 8.56am |
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Built in the mould of a Hodgson team, if you like playing with 4 centre backs across your back four with little to no freedom to go forward he is excellent, as a wingback? nah.
The mountains are calling & I must go.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 14 Aug 24 9.00am |
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Originally posted by doombear
No
Why do I say that?
1. I think he was spoilt at Man U and is looking for a bigger club than Palace
2. I suspect he would want far bigger wages in future years than we would be prepared to pay him
3. I doubt he would come back to be on the sub's bench as a back-up to Munoz.
4. We have better and cheaper emergency CB options in Clyne and Ward (and probably Holding)
5. WE have more pressing needs in other areas if we were to spend £15m.
This.
AWB will do fine at the Spam but he does not suit our tactics.
One more point
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| taylors lovechild 14 Aug 24 9.00am |
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If Roy was still in charge he would have been a great signing. He'll probably do well at West Ham because he's a good defender and you would presume they're not daft enough to have signed him as a wingback. I still remember seeing one of the great defensive displays in the CL when he shut out Mbappe and Neymar with some unbelievable one-on-one defending. He's not and never will be a wingback though, plus he runs back like his mum calling him in for dinner when he still wants to stay out with his mates.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Aug 24 9.45am |
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Saw an interview with Allardyce who really stuck up for AWB and I surprisingly agreed with his analysis.
Possibly the best 1v1 RB in the league but ironically criticised for his attacking play (given he started life as a winger).
In a flat 4-4-2, with little to no attacking onus, great player. We do not play like that anymore however and I'd fail to see where he'd fit in.
Never quite added any more feathers to his cap. I actually think WHU is a move more beneficial for him and I wish him luck without the desire to see him return.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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