"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

I think the PM has said that we can't leave the EU and still have 'bits' of the EU like the single market but we are sure to get a good trade deal with the EU with the single market.

That's not a muddle though.

It's clever you think how reasonable PM's are but then afterwards you think 'was that what he/she said?'

We have been part of Europe for 40 yrs. there's going to be lots of muddled, messed up, convoluted, whatever you want to call it approaches as we try and extracate ourselves.

Personally I don't want a running commentary. Nothing will get done if that happens. Politicians will spend too much time trying to get one up on each other. I would prefer to let them get on with it for now and present their proposal once completed.

Nice post, until you ruined it by mentioning the Guardian.

I think you'll find as well that after the 3 month period is up, an EU national can stay longer should they be able to demonstrate they are highly likely to be able to find a job in the near future (vague as this is). Still, remain once again missing the argument here sadly. It's never been solely about the numbers (at least not for me or any other brexiteer I know). It's always been the fundamental inequality which the EU has has subjected immigration to. Let's be frank here, the above requirements are not exactly a tough set of criteria to abide by. Even if another EU national was to 'fail' to fulfil the above (which are very difficult to actually enforce) , he or she could simply leave the UK and then return again, therefore reseting the the three month time period. When you give one group of people (in thus case EU nationals) almost free access to the UK job market just because they are EU nationals (see you later meritocracy). This can't help but have negative consequences for other groups of migrants wishing to come here who don't have an EU passport.

The EU therefore forces us (the UK) to make a choice, we either discriminate again all non-EU immigrants to keep a barely functional system operational, or we just let go of the reigns completely and just hope for the best. I don't know about you, but that is no way to really run a country.

Regardless, I don't want to overly criticise you, no matter how much I disagree with your above post it's important you are able to continue making such statements. I therefore figured I'd balance out this post and agree with on how much Theresa May royally screwed up relations with non EU countries will desperate trying to get to the 100,000 migration cap, once again, lets just a pick a number and hope for the best kind of policy.

I've met plenty of people here (In China) who tell me of the pain and suffering which they felt when after paying thousands of pounds into the UK in the form of tuition fees and living costs, were told that their post study work visa would be not be granted and that they should 'vacate the county' as soon as they graduated. Awful awful awful! Now when Mrs May wanders around the globe with her hands out like some Victorian beggar saying "Please India, China, pakistan, give us tariff access to your markets" she just gets laughed at, and so she should!

Finally, it's probably only been about 6-7 years which someone can even talk about immigration with out being strung up from a lamppost and their family labelled social outcasts *slight exaggeration alert*. You want to see this topic suppressed again do you?

But but but...even though it might be true it's not because it's in the Guardian and hasn't appeared in any pro brexit papers...

haha touche!

Do you mean to tell me hold all newspapers and medium in high regard?

Jezza says that Britain can be better off out of the EU with managed migration. It's taken the old boy 70 odd years to get to this position but glad to see he is recognising that UKIP are right:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Why not put manage your migration to the 'Jeremy Corbyn' thread ?

To avoid confusion and see beyond the bulls*** media spin, here is Corbyn's press release regarding free movement.

"Labour is not wedded to freedom of movement for EU citizens as a point of principle.

“But nor can we afford to lose full access to the European markets on which so many British businesses and jobs depend. Changes to the way migration rules operate from the EU will be part of the negotiations.

“Labour supports fair rules and reasonably managed migration as part of the post-Brexit relationship with the EU.

“Unlike the Tories, Labour will not offer false promises on immigration targets or sow division by scapegoating migrants.

“But Labour will take action against undercutting of pay and conditions by closing down cheap labour loopholes, banning exclusive advertising of jobs abroad and strengthening workplace protections.

“That would have the effect of reducing numbers of EU migrant workers in the most deregulated sectors, regardless of the final Brexit deal.”