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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 07 Jul 24 9.47pm

I would have liked 60 mil least... but the sell on clause will help one day.

I feel we did the right thing, we got more than last year and we don't know the future

 


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martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 07 Jul 24 10.24pm

Same old Palace. Seen it all before. As soon as we start to look half decent it all goes pear shaped.

I expect another 2 or 3 will go too.

We'll always be just a stepping stone for anyone who's any good.

 

Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 07 Jul 24 10.48pm

We all knew what to expect. Can’t blame the guy really.

Hope we don’t lose all our stars. Fk it.

 


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viveasheagle Flag perth 08 Jul 24 4.31am

Originally posted by Noz

My thoughts

- one of the best right wingers I have ever seen at Palace. My 16 year old son asked me who i have seen who was better, and frankly i was clutching at straws - having supported Palace since 1986.
- He stayed with us for 1 extra year, upgraded his contract, so we got more money for him when he left
- Yes, yes he had his injury problems. but i am fairly confident that the medical team at Bayern can work out if he is fit and viable.
- I am glad that i dont have to watch him punishing us in the premier league next year.
- we have a sell on clause for if and when he goes to PSG (or whoever)
- i truly think he will become one of the best players who ever played on selhurst turf
- im so pissed he left, but i understand why

I was talking to an Orient fan last week who was asking me who the best player i've seen at Palace (he was reminding me how good Lombardo was) but i said Olise is the best player i've seen though i did ponder Wilf for a good while.
On transfer fee i do feel the price is a good deal for Bayern but we did get over the odds when we sold AWB. I guess you win some you lose some. I like others hope we did negotiate a sell on clause in the 10% to 20% bracket as should prove lucrative in long term.

 

DenTyler Flag Sidcup 08 Jul 24 6.02am

My 10p worth.

First of all, gutted as there is no question he is a world class talent.

But if he is no longer a Palace player I couldn’t give a monkey who or what he does now. If he was not interested in what OG is building then I’m glad he is gone now rather than dragging out and at least we don’t have to see him coming back to haunt us for another prem team.

My biggest worry is that this opens the flood gates.

I was so excited for the season ahead, if we could have kept the team together for a season I really believed we could do a villa. Now I guess we see how good dougie and OG are with using the money wisely to strengthen so that we don’t miss the likes of MO, MG etc.

I also hope that MO doesn’t mention to Vincent Kompany how much better JPM is compared to Kane these days and we get a swap deal lol.

 

YT Flag Oxford 08 Jul 24 6.51am

Originally posted by DenTyler

My 10p worth.

First of all, gutted as there is no question he is a world class talent.

But if he is no longer a Palace player I couldn’t give a monkey who or what he does now.
If he was not interested in what OG is building then I’m glad he is gone now rather than dragging out and at least we don’t have to see him coming back to haunt us for another prem team.

My biggest worry is that this opens the flood gates.

I was so excited for the season ahead, if we could have kept the team together for a season I really believed we could do a villa. Now I guess we see how good dougie and OG are with using the money wisely to strengthen so that we don’t miss the likes of MO, MG etc.

I also hope that MO doesn’t mention to Vincent Kompany how much better JPM is compared to Kane these days and we get a swap deal lol.

This is my view too.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jul 24 6.55am

Originally posted by viveasheagle

I was talking to an Orient fan last week who was asking me who the best player i've seen at Palace (he was reminding me how good Lombardo was) but i said Olise is the best player i've seen though i did ponder Wilf for a good while.
On transfer fee i do feel the price is a good deal for Bayern but we did get over the odds when we sold AWB. I guess you win some you lose some. I like others hope we did negotiate a sell on clause in the 10% to 20% bracket as should prove lucrative in long term.

It seems the sell on maybe 15% on total fee not profit.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jul 24 6.57am

Originally posted by martin2412

Same old Palace. Seen it all before. As soon as we start to look half decent it all goes pear shaped.

I expect another 2 or 3 will go too.

We'll always be just a stepping stone for anyone who's any good.

Can you explain how it has al gone pear shaped, before the season has started? Yes Olise has gone, we knew he would but Kamada is a very good player. If Guehi goes, Riad is excellent. Give OG and the club a chance please

Edited by Spiderman (08 Jul 2024 6.57am)

 

YT Flag Oxford 08 Jul 24 7.31am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Can you explain how it has al gone pear shaped, before the season has started? Yes Olise has gone, we knew he would but Kamada is a very good player. If Guehi goes, Riad is excellent. Give OG and the club a chance please

Edited by Spiderman (08 Jul 2024 6.57am)

That's the spirit!

 


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YT Flag Oxford 08 Jul 24 7.39am

So is there a sell-on clause or isn't there? To me, a sell-on clause where there was a release clause would be a bit odd. A bit like putting a price on a car and then when someone stumps up the cash to buy it, introducing a whole load of new conditions over its future use. Maybe release clauses have a built-in "subject to an agreed sell-on clause" clause, but given that MO's release clause was put in place to tempt him to stay, why would he then agree to be restricted to a sell-on clause clause (if that makes sense!)?

Edited by YT (08 Jul 2024 7.41am)

 


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RednBlue Eagle Flag Horsham 08 Jul 24 7.39am

I hardly feel that moving anywhere from the Premier League is "testing yourself". Pushing for top six in the best league in the world is testing yourself. Let that be a lesson to any future deserters.

 

YT Flag Oxford 08 Jul 24 7.43am

Originally posted by RednBlue Eagle

I hardly feel that moving anywhere from the Premier League is "testing yourself". Pushing for top six in the best league in the world is testing yourself. Let that be a lesson to any future deserters.

Good point, although I suppose he'll be aiming to play against the likes of Real Madrid in the 'Champions' League. We can't offer that.

 


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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 08 Jul 24 8.32am

Originally posted by Spiderman

It seems the sell on maybe 15% on total fee not profit.


If true, that'll be another £15m at least when he moves to Real Madrid or PSG in a few years time.

on the wider issue of players moving on to so-called "better things", we have adopted a policy of buying promising young players. In Olise, Eze, Guehi, Wharton and hopefully Doucoure when he's up and running again we have done exceedingly well and increased both the quality and value of our squad immeasurably.

it's inevitable that such players will be moving on at some point in the hope of achieving silverware (and significantly more money).

We have to:
- enjoy them whilst we have them
- manage the outgoing sales carefully so we don't lose too many in one season's transfer windows.
- hope that with each cycle of purchases/sales/reinvestment our squad becomes stronger and a tilt at qualifying for Europe/winning a cup becomes a genuine possibility.

As for this window, whether or not Eze and Guehi leave depends on:
1. whether or not Eze has a release clause in his contract (I've heard it rumoured both yes and no)
2. whether or not Guehi is willing to extend his current contract - if not (and my understanding is that the club will discuss a contract extension with Guehi after the Euros) then we will get most value for him if we sell him in this window.

I don't want us to lose either of these players but ultimately, if they don't want to be with us we should get top price for them and move on.

An unhappy player forced to stay by reason of his contract can easily lead to disruption and discontent in the dressing room.

 

YT Flag Oxford 08 Jul 24 8.41am

Originally posted by doombear


If true, that'll be another £15m at least when he moves to Real Madrid or PSG in a few years time.

on the wider issue of players moving on to so-called "better things", we have adopted a policy of buying promising young players. In Olise, Eze, Guehi, Wharton and hopefully Doucoure when he's up and running again we have done exceedingly well and increased both the quality and value of our squad immeasurably.

it's inevitable that such players will be moving on at some point in the hope of achieving silverware (and significantly more money).

We have to:
- enjoy them whilst we have them
- manage the outgoing sales carefully so we don't lose too many in one season's transfer windows.
- hope that with each cycle of purchases/sales/reinvestment our squad becomes stronger and a tilt at qualifying for Europe/winning a cup becomes a genuine possibility.

As for this window, whether or not Eze and Guehi leave depends on:
1. whether or not Eze has a release clause in his contract (I've heard it rumoured both yes and no)
2. whether or not Guehi is willing to extend his current contract - if not (and my understanding is that the club will discuss a contract extension with Guehi after the Euros) then we will get most value for him if we sell him in this window.

I don't want us to lose either of these players but ultimately, if they don't want to be with us we should get top price for them and move on.

An unhappy player forced to stay by reason of his contract can easily lead to disruption and discontent in the dressing room.

Admittedly we haven't made too many major sales in my time as a fan, but I believe older fans such as me will agree that, over time, we've tended to fail to get 'top dollar' when selling but have often paid over the odds when buying. The sale of AWB, I concede, is an exception, as are some of the more recent purchases, but there's always that feeling that the purchase price for us goes up when it's known that we have cash to spend.

 


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taylors lovechild Flag 08 Jul 24 8.43am

It was inevitable. You could see almost straight away that he was a cut above. We got him for a ridiculously low £8 million, so in the grand scheme of things £50-60 million isn't so bad. On the positive side it is a clear sign that top young players have a route to the biggest clubs if they sign for us. The only loyal players these days are the ones without other options. Let's face it, Wharton was a boyhood Blackburn fan and he jumped ship as soon as the PL came calling. It works both ways.

If we can keep Eze and use the Olise money to sign another attacking midfielder/winger to compete with him and Kamada then we will at least have more depth than last season, even if we have lost a real star.

 

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 08 Jul 24 8.45am

Originally posted by YT

Admittedly we haven't made too many major sales in my time as a fan, but I believe older fans such as me will agree that, over time, we've tended to fail to get 'top dollar' when selling but have often paid over the odds when buying. The sale of AWB, I concede, is an exception, as are some of the more recent purchases, but there's always that feeling that the purchase price for us goes up when it's known that we have cash to spend.

We definitely got the s*** end of the stick when we swapped King Kenny for Clive Allen and even back in the 90’s Arsenal stole Wrighty off us for 2.5 million :'(

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Jul 24 8.53am

Originally posted by doombear


If true, that'll be another £15m at least when he moves to Real Madrid or PSG in a few years time.

on the wider issue of players moving on to so-called "better things", we have adopted a policy of buying promising young players. In Olise, Eze, Guehi, Wharton and hopefully Doucoure when he's up and running again we have done exceedingly well and increased both the quality and value of our squad immeasurably.

it's inevitable that such players will be moving on at some point in the hope of achieving silverware (and significantly more money).

We have to:
- enjoy them whilst we have them
- manage the outgoing sales carefully so we don't lose too many in one season's transfer windows.
- hope that with each cycle of purchases/sales/reinvestment our squad becomes stronger and a tilt at qualifying for Europe/winning a cup becomes a genuine possibility.

As for this window, whether or not Eze and Guehi leave depends on:
1. whether or not Eze has a release clause in his contract (I've heard it rumoured both yes and no)
2. whether or not Guehi is willing to extend his current contract - if not (and my understanding is that the club will discuss a contract extension with Guehi after the Euros) then we will get most value for him if we sell him in this window.

I don't want us to lose either of these players but ultimately, if they don't want to be with us we should get top price for them and move on.

An unhappy player forced to stay by reason of his contract can easily lead to disruption and discontent in the dressing room.

Agree with all of that.

Olise gets his dream move to a European giant, we had him for our benefit and have made some money. Seems like a strategy based in reality for me as opposed to romantically believing players who have a chance of playing at the top level will want to stay at Palace forever.

We have a great manager who is the primary jewel in the crown for me, then we have a scouting system which seems to be producing the goods. I'm sad to see Michael go, as I will be any others, but the bigger picture still looks very promising for the short term future.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 08 Jul 24 9.04am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Agree with all of that.

Olise gets his dream move to a European giant, we had him for our benefit and have made some money. Seems like a strategy based in reality for me as opposed to romantically believing players who have a chance of playing at the top level will want to stay at Palace forever.

We have a great manager who is the primary jewel in the crown for me, then we have a scouting system which seems to be producing the goods. I'm sad to see Michael go, as I will be any others, but the bigger picture still looks very promising for the short term future.

The notion of having a chance to perform at the top level also applies to managers, of course.

 


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SnapperKain Flag SE25 6PU 08 Jul 24 9.15am

Sorry to see him go, but would rather he did now than at the end of the window like Wilf did.

At the end of the day we will always lose players to the clubs that are "bigger" than us, but that's the food chain, we got him from Reading, Bayern get him from us and as some have mentioned, at least it's not another prem rival.

Hoped we'd get a bit more, but the way he's conducted his deals with his agent over the years, it doesn't suprise me that his release clause woudln't be silly money. What with Chelsea tapping him up last year, we didn't have the strongest position to get a much better deal to retain him and we've got more than we would have done had we not agreed a deal last year.

Hopefully now though we can keep hold of Eze and Guéhi (although I suspect Guéhi will be off as well) and use the money to bring in some more quality additions to add to Kamada and Riad. It's not surprisingly really that our first two signings look like they would cover for Olise and Guéhi (although not sure if that's where Kamada plays) so at least we've planned for this for once!

 


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ambrose7 Flag Croydon 08 Jul 24 9.36am

Originally posted by RednBlue Eagle

I hardly feel that moving anywhere from the Premier League is "testing yourself". Pushing for top six in the best league in the world is testing yourself. Let that be a lesson to any future deserters.

If he really wanted to 'test himself' by staying at a club he is a star player for and drag them up the league, he'd have stayed at Reading and tried to single handedly keep them up. However no-one would think that was a good idea because he wouldn't be playing at the highest level he can.

It's probably 50/50 that he'll be playing in a Champions League semi-final next season, and even more likely that this move elevates him into the France squad.

We have to remember that these players don't support the club. Does anyone here think Palhinha is being silly leaving Fulham for Bayern Munich?

 


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