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NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 6.56am
Penge, thanks for the comments. Oh, what do you mean recently? I often get called a Yank. Does that count? Edited by NickinOX (12 Jul 2005 8:07pm)

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 6.56am

Penge, thanks for the comments. Oh, what do you mean recently?

I often get called a Yank. Does that count?

Edited by NickinOX (12 Jul 2005 8:07pm)

gambler Kent 12 Jul 05 9.35am
Police are searching 5 homes in West Yorkshire in connection with the London bombs.

gambler

Kent 12 Jul 05 9.35am

Police are searching 5 homes in West Yorkshire in connection with the London bombs.

kav The Helicopter View 12 Jul 05 10.32am
And what exactly does Mr.George W. think he and his advisors are doing telling his troops and military to avoid London? Looks like we`re the leaders in this campaign. Everytime I get high I lay my head on my baby's breasts

kav

The Helicopter View 12 Jul 05 10.32am

And what exactly does Mr.George W. think he and his advisors are doing telling his troops and military to avoid London?

Looks like we`re the leaders in this campaign.

Everytime I get high I lay my head on my baby's breasts

NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 5.10pm
Probably because they are almost as likely to be targets as some muslims will be in the wake of the attacks. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 5.10pm

Probably because they are almost as likely to be targets as some muslims will be in the wake of the attacks.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 5.12pm
I know a number of American who have been abused after opening their mouths in London. Now don't get me wrong, some American deserve it. Apparently the ban was lifted. I checked and it was purely for safey reasons. Edited by NickinOX (12 Jul 2005 5:41pm)

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 5.12pm

I know a number of American who have been abused after opening their mouths in London. Now don't get me wrong, some American deserve it.

Apparently the ban was lifted. I checked and it was purely for safey reasons.

Edited by NickinOX (12 Jul 2005 5:41pm)

Balham Burner 12 Jul 05 5.29pm
Quote halfmanhalfslug at 11 Jul 2005 12:28pm Shortly after September 11 2001, when the slightest mention of a link between US foreign policy and the terrorist attacks brought accusations of heartless heresy, the then US national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice got to work. Between public displays of grief and solemnity she managed to round up the senior staff of the National Security Council and ask them to think seriously about. ETC You nicked that whole article off Gary Younge in the Guardian! Give him some credit! Edited by Balham Burner (12 Jul 2005 5:30pm)

Balham Burner

12 Jul 05 5.29pm

Quote halfmanhalfslug at 11 Jul 2005 12:28pm

Shortly after September 11 2001, when the slightest mention of a link between US foreign policy and the terrorist attacks brought accusations of heartless heresy, the then US national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice got to work. Between public displays of grief and solemnity she managed to round up the senior staff of the National Security Council and ask them to think seriously about. ETC

You nicked that whole article off Gary Younge in the Guardian! Give him some credit!

Edited by Balham Burner (12 Jul 2005 5:30pm)

NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 5.37pm
Quote Balham Burner at 12 Jul 2005 5:29pm You nicked that whole article off Gary Younge in the Guardian! Give him some credit! Edited by Balham Burner (12 Jul 2005 5:30pm) So that's who I've been arguing with. I thought their journalism was shoddy. The good spelling threw me off the scent. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 5.37pm

Quote Balham Burner at 12 Jul 2005 5:29pm

You nicked that whole article off Gary Younge in the Guardian! Give him some credit!

Edited by Balham Burner (12 Jul 2005 5:30pm)

So that's who I've been arguing with. I thought their journalism was shoddy. The good spelling threw me off the scent.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

tinkerbell85 Redhill 12 Jul 05 6.15pm
Front page of the Telegraph shows a pic of someone my Dad used to work with... she found out her housemate was killed in one of the bombs :-( Really, really sucks Up, up and away in my beautiful balloon!

tinkerbell85

Redhill 12 Jul 05 6.15pm

Front page of the Telegraph shows a pic of someone my Dad used to work with... she found out her housemate was killed in one of the bombs :-( Really, really sucks

Up, up and away in my beautiful balloon!

NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 6.23pm
I'm very sorry. I know how I felt when waiting to hear from friends and relatives, both in New York and in London.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 6.23pm

I'm very sorry.

I know how I felt when waiting to hear from friends and relatives, both in New York and in London.

NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 8.12pm
I bet you're happy. At least I now know why his arguments did not add up properly. By the way, you never responded to my question about vicious rumours. Not that I can remember what it is. Edited by NickinOX (12 Jul 2005 8:13pm)

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 8.12pm

I bet you're happy.

At least I now know why his arguments did not add up properly.

By the way, you never responded to my question about vicious rumours. Not that I can remember what it is.

Edited by NickinOX (12 Jul 2005 8:13pm)

Petealiator 1066 Country! 12 Jul 05 9.30pm
We've played with Vicious Rumours in Belgium, not really my cup of tea, but nice enough blokes, although I think they've packed it in now. Why, do you know them or something Nick or are you a bit of an old punk? My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!

Petealiator

1066 Country! 12 Jul 05 9.30pm

We've played with Vicious Rumours in Belgium, not really my cup of tea, but nice enough blokes, although I think they've packed it in now. Why, do you know them or something Nick or are you a bit of an old punk?

My Rocksteady band...
[Link]
[Link]
IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!

NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 9.49pm
A mate of mine was a fan. I went with him to see them when they supported SLF about 15 years ago. Just wondered if you knew them. I thought you might have played on the same circuit. More like a punk wannabe. I am too young to claim that. New wave, before the new Romantic crap was my age group, and the SKA revival as I was living in the midlands at the time.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 9.49pm

A mate of mine was a fan. I went with him to see them when they supported SLF about 15 years ago. Just wondered if you knew them. I thought you might have played on the same circuit.

More like a punk wannabe. I am too young to claim that. New wave, before the new Romantic crap was my age group, and the SKA revival as I was living in the midlands at the time.

Petealiator 1066 Country! 12 Jul 05 9.56pm
Blimey, I dind't know Vicious Rumours supported SLF, I bet that wouldn't have happened had SLF known that when Vicious Rumours first started out, they suported Skrewdriver at the 100 CLub (1982) and I should know coz I was there! My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!

Petealiator

1066 Country! 12 Jul 05 9.56pm

Blimey, I dind't know Vicious Rumours supported SLF, I bet that wouldn't have happened had SLF known that when Vicious Rumours first started out, they suported Skrewdriver at the 100 CLub (1982) and I should know coz I was there!

My Rocksteady band...
[Link]
[Link]
IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!

NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 10.08pm
Can't remember who else played. SLF were good but not great. Vicious Rumours were OK, though there were a bunch of us and I was the only one who was not wowed by them. Admittedly, all the other guys were fans. I would not have guessed that. White noise, by SLF, would not have been out of place on a Skrewdriver album. Was that the time on Oxford street when the ANL attacked anyone who vaguely looked like a skinhead in the tube stations? A guy I worked years ago was with his girlfriend and they were attacked because ANL people thought they were going to a Skrewdriver gig. It was at the 100 club (I am pretty certain) around that time. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 12 Jul 05 10.08pm

Can't remember who else played. SLF were good but not great. Vicious Rumours were OK, though there were a bunch of us and I was the only one who was not wowed by them. Admittedly, all the other guys were fans.

I would not have guessed that. White noise, by SLF, would not have been out of place on a Skrewdriver album.

Was that the time on Oxford street when the ANL attacked anyone who vaguely looked like a skinhead in the tube stations? A guy I worked years ago was with his girlfriend and they were attacked because ANL people thought they were going to a Skrewdriver gig. It was at the 100 club (I am pretty certain) around that time.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

saxoneagle Bromley 12 Jul 05 10.38pm
From BBC website: Quote London bombers 'were all British' Watch police briefing After a day of intensive police activity, detectives say at least one of four suspected London bombers died in last week's Tube and bus blasts. Security sources said it was likely three men whose belongings were found at the scenes are dead - there is a question mark about the fourth bomber. Explosives were found in Leeds and Luton after a series of dawn raids. The BBC's Frank Gardner said it was unlikely the men - who police believe were all British - acted alone. It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings - nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers Sir Iqbal Sacranie, Muslim Council of Britain Police said they had arrested a relative of one of the four suspects in Yorkshire and taken them to London for questioning. Four bombs - three on the London Underground and one on a bus in Tavistock Square in the city centre - killed at least 52 people on Thursday. Sir Iqbal Sacranie of the Muslim Council of Britain said they had received the latest news from the police with "anguish, shock and horror". Breakthrough He said: "It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings against innocent people. "While the police investigation continues we reiterate our absolute commitment and resolve to helping the police bring to justice all involved in this crime of mass murder. Nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers." The breakthrough in the anti-terror investigation came after a day of raids in West Yorkshire and the seizure of a car at Luton rail station. The raids, which began at 0630BST, centred on two properties in Dewsbury and four in Leeds. WEST YORKSHIRE RAIDS 1. 0630 BST: Two houses raided in Beeston 2. Two houses raided at same time in Thornhill, Dewsbury 3. One House raided in Holbeck 4. 1320 BST: Controlled explosion in Burley Suspects: Key facts Leeds neighbours' shock They were carried out after the discovery on Monday night of CCTV images showing the four men at King's Cross station just before 0830BST on the day of the attacks. The images showed the men, who had boarded a Thameslink train at Luton, carrying rucksacks. Explosives were later found in the car at Luton, where experts carried out five controlled explosions as a cordon was erected around the station. Police removed the explosives from the vehicle and were expected to destroy them later on Tuesday night. A second car believed to be linked to the attacks was found at Leighton Buzzard, 10 miles (16km) west of Luton. Bedfordshire Police were examining it after receiving a tip-off from the Metropolitan Police. They refused to say exactly where the car was found. Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the searches, carried out under the Terrorism Act, were intelligence-led and "directly connected" to last week's attacks. There is no identity for the fourth bomber and police do not know if his remains are at the King's Cross blast site or if he has fled. No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman Head of the Metropolitan Police anti-terrorist branch Peter Clarke said documents identifying three of the men were found near three blast sites. Three of the four men were from the West Yorkshire area, said Mr Clarke. His colleague, assistant commissioner Andy Hayman, said: "I want to conclude by making it absolutely clear that no-one should be in any doubt the work last Thursday is that of extremists and criminals. "No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts." Evidence found at each London location Following developments on Tuesday he described the investigation as "complex and intensive" and "moving at great speed". BOMB MANHUNT London: Forensic work ongoing at blast sites Leeds area: Six houses searched, controlled explosion at one, one arrest made Luton: Controlled explosion after car find near station List of bomb victims Detectives focus on Luton car Police said there was forensic evidence that one of the bombers died in the Aldgate explosion. Property belonging to one of the suspects from West Yorkshire, who was reported missing by his family just after 10am on Thursday, was found on the devastated bus. Police have established that man was joined on his journey to London by three other men. The second man's property was found at the scene of the Aldgate blast and the third man's belongings at both the Aldgate and Edgware Road blasts. Mr Clarke said: "We are trying to establish their movements in the run up to last week's attacks and specifically to establish if they all died in the explosions." Eleven victims of the blasts have now been formally identified. One inquest has been opened and adjourned, that of Susan Levy, 53, from Hertfordshire. Eight more will be opened on Wednesday, including those of Jamie Gordon, 30, and Phillip Russell, 29, who were named on Tuesday. A further two inquests will open on Thursday. Police are asking for anyone with information on the bombs to contact their anti-terrorist hotline on 0800 789 321. Wow, all British eh? What a surprise that will be to some on here... Wonder how closing our borders and sorting out immigration comes into the equation now then? Edited by saxoneagle (12 Jul 2005 10:39pm)

saxoneagle

Bromley 12 Jul 05 10.38pm

From BBC website:

Quote

London bombers 'were all British'

Watch police briefing
After a day of intensive police activity, detectives say at least one of four suspected London bombers died in last week's Tube and bus blasts.
Security sources said it was likely three men whose belongings were found at the scenes are dead - there is a question mark about the fourth bomber.

Explosives were found in Leeds and Luton after a series of dawn raids.

The BBC's Frank Gardner said it was unlikely the men - who police believe were all British - acted alone.

It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings - nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers

Sir Iqbal Sacranie, Muslim Council of Britain

Police said they had arrested a relative of one of the four suspects in Yorkshire and taken them to London for questioning.

Four bombs - three on the London Underground and one on a bus in Tavistock Square in the city centre - killed at least 52 people on Thursday.

Sir Iqbal Sacranie of the Muslim Council of Britain said they had received the latest news from the police with "anguish, shock and horror".

Breakthrough

He said: "It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings against innocent people.

"While the police investigation continues we reiterate our absolute commitment and resolve to helping the police bring to justice all involved in this crime of mass murder. Nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers."

The breakthrough in the anti-terror investigation came after a day of raids in West Yorkshire and the seizure of a car at Luton rail station.

The raids, which began at 0630BST, centred on two properties in Dewsbury and four in Leeds.

WEST YORKSHIRE RAIDS

1. 0630 BST: Two houses raided in Beeston
2. Two houses raided at same time in Thornhill, Dewsbury
3. One House raided in Holbeck
4. 1320 BST: Controlled explosion in Burley

Suspects: Key facts
Leeds neighbours' shock

They were carried out after the discovery on Monday night of CCTV images showing the four men at King's Cross station just before 0830BST on the day of the attacks.

The images showed the men, who had boarded a Thameslink train at Luton, carrying rucksacks.

Explosives were later found in the car at Luton, where experts carried out five controlled explosions as a cordon was erected around the station.

Police removed the explosives from the vehicle and were expected to destroy them later on Tuesday night.

A second car believed to be linked to the attacks was found at Leighton Buzzard, 10 miles (16km) west of Luton.

Bedfordshire Police were examining it after receiving a tip-off from the Metropolitan Police. They refused to say exactly where the car was found.

Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the searches, carried out under the Terrorism Act, were intelligence-led and "directly connected" to last week's attacks.

There is no identity for the fourth bomber and police do not know if his remains are at the King's Cross blast site or if he has fled.

No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts

Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman

Head of the Metropolitan Police anti-terrorist branch Peter Clarke said documents identifying three of the men were found near three blast sites.

Three of the four men were from the West Yorkshire area, said Mr Clarke.

His colleague, assistant commissioner Andy Hayman, said: "I want to conclude by making it absolutely clear that no-one should be in any doubt the work last Thursday is that of extremists and criminals.

"No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts."

Evidence found at each London location
Following developments on Tuesday he described the investigation as "complex and intensive" and "moving at great speed".

BOMB MANHUNT

London: Forensic work ongoing at blast sites
Leeds area: Six houses searched, controlled explosion at one, one arrest made
Luton: Controlled explosion after car find near station

List of bomb victims
Detectives focus on Luton car

Police said there was forensic evidence that one of the bombers died in the Aldgate explosion.

Property belonging to one of the suspects from West Yorkshire, who was reported missing by his family just after 10am on Thursday, was found on the devastated bus.

Police have established that man was joined on his journey to London by three other men.

The second man's property was found at the scene of the Aldgate blast and the third man's belongings at both the Aldgate and Edgware Road blasts.

Mr Clarke said: "We are trying to establish their movements in the run up to last week's attacks and specifically to establish if they all died in the explosions."

Eleven victims of the blasts have now been formally identified.

One inquest has been opened and adjourned, that of Susan Levy, 53, from Hertfordshire.

Eight more will be opened on Wednesday, including those of Jamie Gordon, 30, and Phillip Russell, 29, who were named on Tuesday.

A further two inquests will open on Thursday.

Police are asking for anyone with information on the bombs to contact their anti-terrorist hotline on 0800 789 321.

Wow, all British eh? What a surprise that will be to some on here... Wonder how closing our borders and sorting out immigration comes into the equation now then?

Edited by saxoneagle (12 Jul 2005 10:39pm)

saxoneagle Bromley 12 Jul 05 10.41pm
Just out of interest, if your thoughts mirror those of another, why shouldn't you copy and paster them? Admittedly, the source should have been acknowledged but if you agree with someone elses words then there is no reason not to use them.

saxoneagle

Bromley 12 Jul 05 10.41pm

Just out of interest, if your thoughts mirror those of another, why shouldn't you copy and paster them? Admittedly, the source should have been acknowledged but if you agree with someone elses words then there is no reason not to use them.

NickPalace Horsmonden, Kent (hopefully tempor... 13 Jul 05 12.12am
Quote saxoneagle at 12 Jul 2005 10:38pm From BBC website: Quote London bombers 'were all British' Watch police briefing After a day of intensive police activity, detectives say at least one of four suspected London bombers died in last week's Tube and bus blasts. Security sources said it was likely three men whose belongings were found at the scenes are dead - there is a question mark about the fourth bomber. Explosives were found in Leeds and Luton after a series of dawn raids. The BBC's Frank Gardner said it was unlikely the men - who police believe were all British - acted alone. It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings - nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers Sir Iqbal Sacranie, Muslim Council of Britain Police said they had arrested a relative of one of the four suspects in Yorkshire and taken them to London for questioning. Four bombs - three on the London Underground and one on a bus in Tavistock Square in the city centre - killed at least 52 people on Thursday. Sir Iqbal Sacranie of the Muslim Council of Britain said they had received the latest news from the police with "anguish, shock and horror". Breakthrough He said: "It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings against innocent people. "While the police investigation continues we reiterate our absolute commitment and resolve to helping the police bring to justice all involved in this crime of mass murder. Nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers." The breakthrough in the anti-terror investigation came after a day of raids in West Yorkshire and the seizure of a car at Luton rail station. The raids, which began at 0630BST, centred on two properties in Dewsbury and four in Leeds. WEST YORKSHIRE RAIDS 1. 0630 BST: Two houses raided in Beeston 2. Two houses raided at same time in Thornhill, Dewsbury 3. One House raided in Holbeck 4. 1320 BST: Controlled explosion in Burley Suspects: Key facts Leeds neighbours' shock They were carried out after the discovery on Monday night of CCTV images showing the four men at King's Cross station just before 0830BST on the day of the attacks. The images showed the men, who had boarded a Thameslink train at Luton, carrying rucksacks. Explosives were later found in the car at Luton, where experts carried out five controlled explosions as a cordon was erected around the station. Police removed the explosives from the vehicle and were expected to destroy them later on Tuesday night. A second car believed to be linked to the attacks was found at Leighton Buzzard, 10 miles (16km) west of Luton. Bedfordshire Police were examining it after receiving a tip-off from the Metropolitan Police. They refused to say exactly where the car was found. Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the searches, carried out under the Terrorism Act, were intelligence-led and "directly connected" to last week's attacks. There is no identity for the fourth bomber and police do not know if his remains are at the King's Cross blast site or if he has fled. No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman Head of the Metropolitan Police anti-terrorist branch Peter Clarke said documents identifying three of the men were found near three blast sites. Three of the four men were from the West Yorkshire area, said Mr Clarke. His colleague, assistant commissioner Andy Hayman, said: "I want to conclude by making it absolutely clear that no-one should be in any doubt the work last Thursday is that of extremists and criminals. "No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts." Evidence found at each London location Following developments on Tuesday he described the investigation as "complex and intensive" and "moving at great speed". BOMB MANHUNT London: Forensic work ongoing at blast sites Leeds area: Six houses searched, controlled explosion at one, one arrest made Luton: Controlled explosion after car find near station List of bomb victims Detectives focus on Luton car Police said there was forensic evidence that one of the bombers died in the Aldgate explosion. Property belonging to one of the suspects from West Yorkshire, who was reported missing by his family just after 10am on Thursday, was found on the devastated bus. Police have established that man was joined on his journey to London by three other men. The second man's property was found at the scene of the Aldgate blast and the third man's belongings at both the Aldgate and Edgware Road blasts. Mr Clarke said: "We are trying to establish their movements in the run up to last week's attacks and specifically to establish if they all died in the explosions." Eleven victims of the blasts have now been formally identified. One inquest has been opened and adjourned, that of Susan Levy, 53, from Hertfordshire. Eight more will be opened on Wednesday, including those of Jamie Gordon, 30, and Phillip Russell, 29, who were named on Tuesday. A further two inquests will open on Thursday. Police are asking for anyone with information on the bombs to contact their anti-terrorist hotline on 0800 789 321. Wow, all British eh? What a surprise that will be to some on here... Wonder how closing our borders and sorting out immigration comes into the equation now then? Edited by saxoneagle (12 Jul 2005 10:39pm) I will personally give you £50 if you can prove that these people do not have any foreign origins. ****stani's apparently.

NickPalace

Horsmonden, Kent (hopefully tempor... 13 Jul 05 12.12am

Quote saxoneagle at 12 Jul 2005 10:38pm