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 matt_himself  Matataland 14 Sep 15 5.45pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 14 Sep 2015 5.25pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Sep 2015 4.51pm
Nick.... as I said on the other thread.... the next PM in 2020 will be decided by the electorate, not by who has the most party members.
Labour supporters are most likely union members too and joining the Labour Party costs £3 doesn't it?
It will still be down to whoever is the most credible party leader.
At this stage it is difficult to imagine Corbyn overturning the general public's concern about Labour's economic credentials... especially as he's appointed his best mate as shadow chancellor.
McDonnell is an excellent choice. I've been banging on on here for ages about the failures of austerity. At last we have someone in a prominent position to put proper arguments forward against it.
You should be pleased that the government have an opposition at last, not like the Tory lite last lot.
Gusset - I completely agree with you. I am pleased with the opposition.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 14 Sep 15 5.48pm |
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Imagine thinking Diane Abbott being in the shadow cabinet is anything other than a truly sh*t idea.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 14 Sep 15 5.49pm |
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Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 5.33pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 14 Sep 2015 5.27pm
Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 5.13pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Sep 2015 4.51pm
Nick.... as I said on the other thread.... the next PM in 2020 will be decided by the electorate, not by who has the most party members.
Labour supporters are most likely union members too and joining the Labour Party costs £3 doesn't it?
It will still be down to whoever is the most credible party leader.
At this stage it is difficult to imagine Corbyn overturning the general public's concern about Labour's economic credentials... especially as he's appointed his best mate as shadow chancellor.
Unlike Cameron who appointed his...errr...oh.
Surely we will not need a Chancellor of the Exchequer under a Corbyn government as we will all be reduced to bartering?
Your understanding of Socialism is really weird.
Well it is alive and well in the Socialist paradise of Cuba.
mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 14 Sep 15 5.51pm |
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Quote We are goin up! at 14 Sep 2015 5.48pm
Imagine thinking Diane Abbott being in the shadow cabinet is anything other than a truly sh*t idea.
What is she, shadow minister for private schools?
mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 15 5.56pm |
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Quote OldFella at 14 Sep 2015 5.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 14 Sep 2015 5.25pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Sep 2015 4.51pm
Nick.... as I said on the other thread.... the next PM in 2020 will be decided by the electorate, not by who has the most party members.
Labour supporters are most likely union members too and joining the Labour Party costs £3 doesn't it?
It will still be down to whoever is the most credible party leader.
At this stage it is difficult to imagine Corbyn overturning the general public's concern about Labour's economic credentials... especially as he's appointed his best mate as shadow chancellor.
McDonnell is an excellent choice. I've been banging on on here for ages about the failures of austerity. At last we have someone in a prominent position to put proper arguments forward against it.
You should be pleased that the government have an opposition at last, not like the Tory lite last lot.
"The Gusset Delusion"
The old ad hominem argument. Well done sir!
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| matt_himself Matataland 14 Sep 15 6.08pm |
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So, two days in and:
1) most of the shadow cabinet have resigned;
2) Corbyn has been accused of not appointing enough women in his cabinet;
3) his choice of shadow chancellor has been universally derided;
The thing I love is that is brewing nicely up to be a full on 'Judean People's Front' civil war. The portents are there.
Now I am sure the left inclined amongst us will bang on about this being a 'new type of politics' but there is nothing more that the left like more than tearing into fellow lefties for lacking 'morals', 'ideological purity' or some other bollocks. And that includes having a pop at the right.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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| The White Horse 14 Sep 15 6.16pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 14 Sep 2015 6.08pm
So, two days in and:
1) most of the shadow cabinet have resigned;
2) Corbyn has been accused of not appointing enough women in his cabinet;
3) his choice of shadow chancellor has been universally derided;
The thing I love is that is brewing nicely up to be a full on 'Judean People's Front' civil war. The portents are there.
Now I am sure the left inclined amongst us will bang on about this being a 'new type of politics' but there is nothing more that the left like more than tearing into fellow lefties for lacking 'morals', 'ideological purity' or some other bollocks. And that includes having a pop at the right.
Owen Jones was critical today.
Obviously when the Corbyn lot turn in on themselves, they'll somehow still blame Tristram Hunt.
"The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity. Stewart Lee
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| matt_himself Matataland 14 Sep 15 7.20pm |
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Quote The White Horse at 14 Sep 2015 6.16pm
Quote matt_himself at 14 Sep 2015 6.08pm
So, two days in and:
1) most of the shadow cabinet have resigned;
2) Corbyn has been accused of not appointing enough women in his cabinet;
3) his choice of shadow chancellor has been universally derided;
The thing I love is that is brewing nicely up to be a full on 'Judean People's Front' civil war. The portents are there.
Now I am sure the left inclined amongst us will bang on about this being a 'new type of politics' but there is nothing more that the left like more than tearing into fellow lefties for lacking 'morals', 'ideological purity' or some other bollocks. And that includes having a pop at the right.
Owen Jones was critical today.
Obviously when the Corbyn lot turn in on themselves, they'll somehow still blame Tristram Hunt.
Is it any surprise that Owen Jones was critical today?
He has made a career out of being a contrarian. What he says he supports now actually has some power. He is very confused about this and is now criticising his own sort as criticising things pays the bills.
I am looking forward to more of this type of thing. As you say, Tristram Hunt will get the blame when it falls apart, so will Blair no doubt even though he left office a decade ago.
Edited by matt_himself (14 Sep 2015 7.25pm)
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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| OldFella London 14 Sep 15 7.30pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 14 Sep 2015 5.56pm
Quote OldFella at 14 Sep 2015 5.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 14 Sep 2015 5.25pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Sep 2015 4.51pm
Nick.... as I said on the other thread.... the next PM in 2020 will be decided by the electorate, not by who has the most party members.
Labour supporters are most likely union members too and joining the Labour Party costs £3 doesn't it?
It will still be down to whoever is the most credible party leader.
At this stage it is difficult to imagine Corbyn overturning the general public's concern about Labour's economic credentials... especially as he's appointed his best mate as shadow chancellor.
McDonnell is an excellent choice. I've been banging on on here for ages about the failures of austerity. At last we have someone in a prominent position to put proper arguments forward against it.
You should be pleased that the government have an opposition at last, not like the Tory lite last lot.
"The Gusset Delusion"
The old ad hominem argument. Well done sir!
ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious/wrong. A man of your (purported) education should know that.
Sorry to say NG that you consistently come over as a naοve know all whose pronouncements are often pretty puerile. So you're bound to get some push back!
Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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| matt_himself Matataland 14 Sep 15 7.48pm |
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Shall we have a sweep on the first one of Corbyns cabinet to resign?
Lord Falconer is my bet. No doubt Corbyn will say something deranged and Falconer will resign on principle.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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| johnfirewall 14 Sep 15 7.51pm |
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My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary.
A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs.
Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man.
Ikea cabinet.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 14 Sep 15 8.47pm |
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Cornyn first, now McDonnell, not just great for the Torys but also Ukip as both are pro immigration.
Labour are in danger of fusing into the greens.
"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 14 Sep 15 11.25pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 14 Sep 2015 7.51pm
My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary.
A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs.
Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man.
Ikea cabinet.
And...?
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Sep 15 12.01am |
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Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 11.25pm
Quote johnfirewall at 14 Sep 2015 7.51pm
My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary.
A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs.
Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man.
Ikea cabinet.
And...?
Maybe they'll stop the sale of Halal Meat ? Although I'm willing to bet that they wont for fear of 'Offending the Muslim Community"
Pro USA & Israel
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| beagle pom tiddly om pom pom 15 Sep 15 7.30am |
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Quote matt_himself at 14 Sep 2015 7.48pm
Shall we have a sweep on the first one of Corbyns cabinet to resign?
Lord Falconer is my bet. No doubt Corbyn will say something deranged and Falconer will resign on principle.
I can't see Falconer hanging around when Corbyn apologises for the 'illegal' Iraq war. 
When the time comes, I want die just like my Dad - at peace and asleep.
Not screaming and terrified.
Like his passengers.
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| matt_himself Matataland 15 Sep 15 7.39am |
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Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 11.25pm
Quote johnfirewall at 14 Sep 2015 7.51pm
My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary.
A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs.
Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man.
Ikea cabinet.
And...?
Tell the masses that they can't eat sausages and there will be a revolution. Guaranteed.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 15 Sep 15 8.03am |
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Quote Jimenez at 15 Sep 2015 12.01am
Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 11.25pm
Quote johnfirewall at 14 Sep 2015 7.51pm
My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary.
A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs.
Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man.
Ikea cabinet.
And...?
Maybe they'll stop the sale of Halal Meat ? Although I'm willing to bet that they wont for fear of 'Offending the Muslim Community"
Surely he will call for halal to be made compulsory in the interests of community 'cohesion'.
mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 15 Sep 15 8.18am |
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Y Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 11.25pm
Quote johnfirewall at 14 Sep 2015 7.51pm
My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary.
A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs.
Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man.
Ikea cabinet.
And...?
In itself not necessarily an issue but if you are a dairy / beef / poultry farmer you'll be paying close attention to what she does.
There is an obvious conflict between someone who is vegan and the majority of farmers.
the dignified don't even enter in the game
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 15 Sep 15 8.42am |
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Nick Griffin stands more chance of being elected PM that this tit.
"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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| npn Crowborough 15 Sep 15 9.06am |
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Unfortunate timing that the papers had pictures of the funeral of a 16 year old kid, kidnapped and murdered in cold blood (very possibly after torture) by the same IRA members McDonnell believes should be 'celebrated'.
Plus Argentina mentioning that Corbyn's election is a step forward in them gaining the Falklands.
Then the cherry on the cake - Abbott's in the shadow cabinet
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