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Originally posted by cpfc84
I am pretty sure the West Ham speculation was earlier... This appears to be reacting to it no? This is the most recent news. Plus why put so much faith in the betting markets? They largely react to people putting bets on rather than being 'in the know' themselves. Since there HAS been West Ham speculation, there was obviously going to be 'some movement' as people put bets on. Still, if he does eventually go to West Ham so be it. Not worth worrying about it/speculating.
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Originally posted by Holmesdale Steve
Seems to me that he doesn't actually want to come to Palace unless it is his last resort. He is obviously waiting on 'that better offer'. You may be right but there have been a lot of reports of him having agreed terms. There have also been a lot saying we are still negotiating with Liverpool over the fee. Certainly don't think it's the player longing us off, at the moment.... Edited by Alex1991 (06 Jul 2016 7.13pm)
"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017. |
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Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme
I am pretty sure the West Ham speculation was earlier... This appears to be reacting to it no? This is the most recent news. Plus why put so much faith in the betting markets? They largely react to people putting bets on rather than being 'in the know' themselves. Since there HAS been West Ham speculation, there was obviously going to be 'some movement' as people put bets on. Still, if he does eventually go to West Ham so be it. Not worth worrying about it/speculating. Papers can print all the rubbish they want and people will still buy them. Betting companies can actually lose a lot of money if they get their odds wrong. They will be much more careful than any news outlet.
"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017. |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
Papers can print all the rubbish they want and people will still buy them. Betting companies can actually lose a lot of money if they get their odds wrong. They will be much more careful than any news outlet. They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win. In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.
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Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme
They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win. In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.
So if it tomorrow someone reports that Stoke have put in a bid, immediately people will pile into those odds and the odds will tumble. It really doesn't take much, a £1000 bet will happily move something from 12/1 to 2/1 in these markets. On the other hand you are incorrect, both about the bookies always winning and about the Leicester result being profitable. Bookies may win in the long term but on single events we lose money every single day to varying degrees. These football specials markets, in particular, are a nightmare and regularly leak money. Additionally the Leicester result was one of the worst in the history of the industry. They were backed from 5000/1 all the way down and at most firms it was, in the end, a case of anyone but them being an acceptable result.
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Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme
They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win. In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it. I'd say the bookies have the same amount of moles as the news outlets and probably more reliable ones due to the financial implications. The market/odds are not entirely reactionary and based on bets coming in. I do agree about the amount of money they make but they always fix the odds in their favour regardless.... Edited by Alex1991 (06 Jul 2016 8.59pm)
"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017. |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
So if it tomorrow someone reports that Stoke have put in a bid, immediately people will pile into those odds and the odds will tumble. It really doesn't take much, a £1000 bet will happily move something from 12/1 to 2/1 in these markets. On the other hand you are incorrect, both about the bookies always winning and about the Leicester result being profitable. Bookies may win in the long term but on single events we lose money every single day to varying degrees. These football specials markets, in particular, are a nightmare and regularly leak money. Additionally the Leicester result was one of the worst in the history of the industry. They were backed from 5000/1 all the way down and at most firms it was, in the end, a case of anyone but them being an acceptable result. Ominous, maybe WetsSpam will sneak in ....and snitch it!
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Don't worry, if this goes down the sh1tter it'll be Campbell's chance to shine up front
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Originally posted by Pinkfluff1981
It's all media hype, bookies etc. Nobody really knows apart from a select few people from either club and Benteke and they ain't gummy be talking to media or bookies. So keep believing...,I must admit I look on the internet all throughout the day at the moment hoping to see some news regarding this move for benteke Very wise words there, but ewaier said than done!
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what worries me is if we fail with this bid, which other strikers would, and more importantly could we go for
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Originally posted by tillysosser
what worries me is if we fail with this bid, which other strikers would, and more importantly could we go for Think we have iost him now to West Ham,as they are willing to meet the full asking price up front.
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Honestly now... Benteke, bony or berahinio I would have berahinio I and I couldn't tell you why I just like him better than the others !
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