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ItsCPFCforme Flag 06 Jul 16 7.01pm

Originally posted by cpfc84


that article was 7 hours ago since then there have been reports of west ham interest and a move of the betting markets

I am pretty sure the West Ham speculation was earlier... This appears to be reacting to it no? This is the most recent news. Plus why put so much faith in the betting markets? They largely react to people putting bets on rather than being 'in the know' themselves. Since there HAS been West Ham speculation, there was obviously going to be 'some movement' as people put bets on.

Still, if he does eventually go to West Ham so be it. Not worth worrying about it/speculating.

 

Alex1991 Flag Ashford 06 Jul 16 7.13pm

Originally posted by Holmesdale Steve

Seems to me that he doesn't actually want to come to Palace unless it is his last resort. He is obviously waiting on 'that better offer'.
To be honest, if he doesn't want to come then I don't want him to come either. If that is the case then so be it but please stop pi$$ing us around.

You may be right but there have been a lot of reports of him having agreed terms. There have also been a lot saying we are still negotiating with Liverpool over the fee.

Certainly don't think it's the player longing us off, at the moment....

Edited by Alex1991 (06 Jul 2016 7.13pm)

 


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pstrutt Flag Busselton, WA 06 Jul 16 7.16pm

What's red n blue and stained with yellow?

Crystal Palace supporters underpants when they try to second guess footballers decision making based on silence or rumour.

If he comes, he comes and it will be good!
If he doesn't, he doesn't and it will be someone else and some other rumour.

Edited by pstrutt (06 Jul 2016 7.16pm)

 


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Alex1991 Flag Ashford 06 Jul 16 7.17pm

Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme

I am pretty sure the West Ham speculation was earlier... This appears to be reacting to it no? This is the most recent news. Plus why put so much faith in the betting markets? They largely react to people putting bets on rather than being 'in the know' themselves. Since there HAS been West Ham speculation, there was obviously going to be 'some movement' as people put bets on.

Still, if he does eventually go to West Ham so be it. Not worth worrying about it/speculating.

Papers can print all the rubbish they want and people will still buy them. Betting companies can actually lose a lot of money if they get their odds wrong. They will be much more careful than any news outlet.

 


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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 06 Jul 16 7.45pm

I have a feeling that this one is drifting away from us, like smoke through fingers, and if it does, nothing much will happen whilst we're on a beano in the US and Little-America...shame really

 


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ItsCPFCforme Flag 06 Jul 16 7.53pm

Originally posted by Alex1991

Papers can print all the rubbish they want and people will still buy them. Betting companies can actually lose a lot of money if they get their odds wrong. They will be much more careful than any news outlet.

They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win.

In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Jul 16 8.13pm

JEEZ...zus!

Is this thread STILL going?

-.-'

 


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tillysosser Flag far far away 06 Jul 16 8.21pm

yep sorry lads but to be honest i really dont think this one is going to happen.


i mean thinking about it......... benteke a crystal palace player......... really???-.-'

 

Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Jul 16 8.48pm

Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme

They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win.

In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.


On one hand you're correct in that transfer / next manager market odds are not a trustworthy barometer of what will happen. The market moves nearly 100% due to where the money is going at that time, which in turn is largely influenced by news outlets reporting a club's interest rather than inside info as so many people presume.

So if it tomorrow someone reports that Stoke have put in a bid, immediately people will pile into those odds and the odds will tumble. It really doesn't take much, a £1000 bet will happily move something from 12/1 to 2/1 in these markets.

On the other hand you are incorrect, both about the bookies always winning and about the Leicester result being profitable. Bookies may win in the long term but on single events we lose money every single day to varying degrees. These football specials markets, in particular, are a nightmare and regularly leak money.

Additionally the Leicester result was one of the worst in the history of the industry. They were backed from 5000/1 all the way down and at most firms it was, in the end, a case of anyone but them being an acceptable result.

 


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Alex1991 Flag Ashford 06 Jul 16 8.52pm

Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme

They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win.

In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.

I'd say the bookies have the same amount of moles as the news outlets and probably more reliable ones due to the financial implications. The market/odds are not entirely reactionary and based on bets coming in. I do agree about the amount of money they make but they always fix the odds in their favour regardless....

Edited by Alex1991 (06 Jul 2016 8.59pm)

 


"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

Petereagle Flag Brockley 06 Jul 16 8.53pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


On one hand you're correct in that transfer / next manager market odds are not a trustworthy barometer of what will happen. The market moves nearly 100% due to where the money is going at that time, which in turn is largely influenced by news outlets reporting a club's interest rather than inside info as so many people presume.

So if it tomorrow someone reports that Stoke have put in a bid, immediately people will pile into those odds and the odds will tumble. It really doesn't take much, a £1000 bet will happily move something from 12/1 to 2/1 in these markets.

On the other hand you are incorrect, both about the bookies always winning and about the Leicester result being profitable. Bookies may win in the long term but on single events we lose money every single day to varying degrees. These football specials markets, in particular, are a nightmare and regularly leak money.

Additionally the Leicester result was one of the worst in the history of the industry. They were backed from 5000/1 all the way down and at most firms it was, in the end, a case of anyone but them being an acceptable result.

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The eagle's Flag 06 Jul 16 9.00pm

Definitely not looking good now down to 1/4 from 1/12 west ham now 7/2 looks to me his going to west ham thought it wouldn't happen as this should of been over the line like yesterday as I've said just pay the money like west ham are going to do with 30m in cash not fxxk arsingabout seen it all before with Darren bent and we were 1/20 on than and still managed to f*** it up

 

jimruss Flag Sidcup 06 Jul 16 9.13pm

Don't worry, if this goes down the sh1tter it'll be Campbell's chance to shine up front

 

Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 06 Jul 16 9.16pm

While we were the only show in town the game was clearly to keep raising the stakes with double benefit of establishing an inflated price and buying time in case another bidder came along. I don't think he was ever coming to us and we have just been strung along to keep the price up. We should walk away.

 


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Pinkfluff1981 Flag 06 Jul 16 9.20pm

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It's all media hype, bookies etc. Nobody really knows apart from a select few people from either club and Benteke. They ain't going to be talking to media or bookies. So keep believing...,I must admit I look on the internet all throughout the day at the moment hoping to see some news regarding this move for benteke

Edited by Pinkfluff1981 (06 Jul 2016 9.34pm)

 

Petereagle Flag Brockley 06 Jul 16 9.23pm

Originally posted by Pinkfluff1981

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It's all media hype, bookies etc. Nobody really knows apart from a select few people from either club and Benteke and they ain't gummy be talking to media or bookies. So keep believing...,I must admit I look on the internet all throughout the day at the moment hoping to see some news regarding this move for benteke

Very wise words there, but ewaier said than done!

 

tillysosser Flag far far away 06 Jul 16 9.30pm

what worries me is if we fail with this bid, which other strikers would, and more importantly could we go for

 

The eagle's Flag 06 Jul 16 9.33pm

Berahino is he still hasn't gone to stoke yet or bony but if we get either of them we should move our arse with the money they want and don't haggle if he would be cheaper for a start on less money than what beneteke is on

 

Jacey Flag 06 Jul 16 9.35pm

Originally posted by tillysosser

what worries me is if we fail with this bid, which other strikers would, and more importantly could we go for

Think we have iost him now to West Ham,as they are willing to meet the full asking price up front.
A saying comes to mind, ' He who hesitates is lost'.
Never mind, time to move on.More fish in the sea.

 

Pinkfluff1981 Flag 06 Jul 16 9.36pm

Honestly now...

Benteke, bony or berahinio

I would have berahinio I and I couldn't tell you why I just like him better than the others !

 

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