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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 1.39pm
I couldn't believe what I was reading the other day.....apparently Hales naming his dog the same name that he allegely called collective non whites was of some great consequence. Talk about clown world. I repeat....Muhammad Ali said far worse stuff than this about white people....all white people. He did it publicly all through his career and for a time after it. Instead of cancelling him, those awfully racist white people made him a multi-millionaire.....declared him winner in pretty much all fights against whites that went to decision and gave him medal after medal. You see, 'free speech' was a centre-piece of European conservative culture, whether people liked what you said or didn't. The left are destroying it. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.42pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 1.39pm

I couldn't believe what I was reading the other day.....apparently Hales naming his dog the same name that he allegely called collective non whites was of some great consequence.

Talk about clown world.

I repeat....Muhammad Ali said far worse stuff than this about white people....all white people. He did it publicly all through his career and for a time after it.

Instead of cancelling him, those awfully racist white people made him a multi-millionaire.....declared him winner in pretty much all fights against whites that went to decision and gave him medal after medal.

You see, 'free speech' was a centre-piece of European conservative culture, whether people liked what you said or didn't.

The left are destroying it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.42pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 1.41pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No, in the end it doesn't make you stronger. Had you properly listened to Mr Rafiq's well made points that would have been clear to you. It has a slow leaching effect on your confidence and is especially pernicious as it just keeps on coming but at a low level so it's hard to call it out. But you know this as it is what you do. Always looking for an opportunity to criticise the 'other' but only one yellow card so far. That's pretty low. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 1.41pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

No, in the end it doesn't make you stronger. Had you properly listened to Mr Rafiq's well made points that would have been clear to you. It has a slow leaching effect on your confidence and is especially pernicious as it just keeps on coming but at a low level so it's hard to call it out. But you know this as it is what you do. Always looking for an opportunity to criticise the 'other' but only one yellow card so far.

That's pretty low.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 1.41pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Not really....the only thing I'm desperate about is getting another cup of tea. I just have a genuine hang up about people continually mixing up envious with jealous and vice versa..it's a vice of mine because we all make mistakes and being overly sensitive on grammar on a forum is a pain in the arse...then again you did do it three times. So you kind of have my recognition that my correction is, in of itself, irritating. Not everything is racial you know. Also, I don't know what you mean by 'caught out', if you actually read my posts I make my positions quite clear on race and the whole 'racism' shebang. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.30pm) Don't you know? It's call people who don't agree with you a racist day. I'm sure that a certain little group would love to see us both banned, so they can all hold hands together without the annoyance of being disagreed with. One of the HOL's best qualities is that it is not an echo chamber, but there are always those that would like to change that.
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18 Nov 21 1.41pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not really....the only thing I'm desperate about is getting another cup of tea.

I just have a genuine hang up about people continually mixing up envious with jealous and vice versa..it's a vice of mine because we all make mistakes and being overly sensitive on grammar on a forum is a pain in the arse...then again you did do it three times.

So you kind of have my recognition that my correction is, in of itself, irritating.

Not everything is racial you know.

Also, I don't know what you mean by 'caught out', if you actually read my posts I make my positions quite clear on race and the whole 'racism' shebang.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.30pm)

Don't you know? It's call people who don't agree with you a racist day.
I'm sure that a certain little group would love to see us both banned, so they can all hold hands together without the annoyance of being disagreed with.

One of the HOL's best qualities is that it is not an echo chamber, but there are always those that would like to change that.

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Orange1290 18 Nov 21 1.45pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I couldn't believe what I was reading the other day.....apparently Hales naming his dog the same name that he allegely called collective non whites was of some great consequence. Talk about clown world. I repeat....Muhammad Ali said far worse stuff than this about white people....all white people. He did it publicly all through his career and for a time after it. Instead of cancelling him, those awfully racist white people made him a multi-millionaire.....declared him winner in pretty much all fights against whites that went to decision and gave him medal after medal. You see, 'free speech' was a centre-piece of European culture, whether people liked what you said or didn't. Muhammad Ali made himself a 'millionaire' by being the best boxer of his time. The 'white' people you mention were made 'millionaires' by Muhammed Ali as he created his own brand name that the leaches and vultures, primarily 'white' (as you always seem to emphasis skin colour) came flocking around him for easy and free pickings. Pro China, EU & Palestine
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18 Nov 21 1.45pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I couldn't believe what I was reading the other day.....apparently Hales naming his dog the same name that he allegely called collective non whites was of some great consequence.

Talk about clown world.

I repeat....Muhammad Ali said far worse stuff than this about white people....all white people. He did it publicly all through his career and for a time after it.

You see, 'free speech' was a centre-piece of European culture, whether people liked what you said or didn't.

Muhammad Ali made himself a 'millionaire' by being the best boxer of his time. The 'white' people you mention were made 'millionaires' by Muhammed Ali as he created his own brand name that the leaches and vultures, primarily 'white' (as you always seem to emphasis skin colour) came flocking around him for easy and free pickings.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 1.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I couldn't believe what I was reading the other day.....apparently Hales naming his dog the same name that he allegely called collective non whites was of some great consequence. Talk about clown world. I repeat....Muhammad Ali said far worse stuff than this about white people....all white people. He did it publicly all through his career and for a time after it. Instead of cancelling him, those awfully racist white people made him a multi-millionaire.....declared him winner in pretty much all fights against whites that went to decision and gave him medal after medal. You see, 'free speech' was a centre-piece of European culture, whether people liked what you said or didn't. I loved Ali but according to him, he was taught by Elijah Muhammad that Whites were devils, and he was happy to repeat that claim in public back in the day. I sympathized with him over the awful treatment he got as a Black man, but one lot of racism does not justify another. Even so, we were happy to let him say it on peak time TV. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Nov 2021 1.47pm)
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18 Nov 21 1.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I couldn't believe what I was reading the other day.....apparently Hales naming his dog the same name that he allegely called collective non whites was of some great consequence.

Talk about clown world.

I repeat....Muhammad Ali said far worse stuff than this about white people....all white people. He did it publicly all through his career and for a time after it.

You see, 'free speech' was a centre-piece of European culture, whether people liked what you said or didn't.

I loved Ali but according to him, he was taught by Elijah Muhammad that Whites were devils, and he was happy to repeat that claim in public back in the day.
I sympathized with him over the awful treatment he got as a Black man, but one lot of racism does not justify another. Even so, we were happy to let him say it on peak time TV.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Nov 2021 1.47pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 1.48pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Don't you know? It's call people who don't agree with you a racist day. I'm sure that a certain little group would love to see us both banned, so they can all hold hands together without the annoyance of being disagreed with. One of the HOL's best qualities is that it is not an echo chamber, but there are always those that would like to change that. Yep, spicy orange is highly 'racist'....I found his 'Asian restaurant' section highly amusing. I was laughing too much to respond myself. But they all want to focus upon you mate because you're the opposite tribe. While I don't agree with their positions on racism I can respect a position if it's consistent. However, it's notable that whenever 'racism' comes from the left they let it go. Then again, I'm probably guilty of the same tribal bias....However, I don't pretend to have some great moral superiority on 'racism'....because I know it's partly absurdist and often hypocritical. But that's the age we are living in. People trying to destroy others because they named their dog 'Kevin'.....the world's gone nuts. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.51pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 1.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

One of the HOL's best qualities is that it is not an echo chamber, but there are always those that would like to change that.

Yep, spicy orange is highly 'racist'....I found his 'Asian restaurant' section highly amusing. I was laughing too much to respond myself.

But they all want to focus upon you mate because you're the opposite tribe.

While I don't agree with their positions on racism I can respect a position if it's consistent. However, it's notable that whenever 'racism' comes from the left they let it go.

Then again, I'm probably guilty of the same tribal bias....However, I don't pretend to have some great moral superiority on 'racism'....because I know it's partly absurdist and often hypocritical.

But that's the age we are living in.

People trying to destroy others because they named their dog 'Kevin'.....the world's gone nuts.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.51pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 18 Nov 21 1.49pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 It doesn't prohibit hiring on skills, knowledge and fitting into a 'team'. Sound like you're a little bitter & jealous of their achievements. Your really not all there are you!
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The garden of England 18 Nov 21 1.49pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

It doesn't prohibit hiring on skills, knowledge and fitting into a 'team'.

Sound like you're a little bitter & jealous of their achievements.

Your really not all there are you!

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 1.50pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 Muhammad Ali made himself a 'millionaire' by being the best boxer of his time. The 'white' people you mention were made 'millionaires' by Muhammed Ali as he created his own brand name that the leaches and vultures, primarily 'white' (as you always seem to emphasis skin colour) came flocking around him for easy and free pickings. Two words. Don King. This really is a nonsense justification for blatant racism, even by your standards. Racism goes both ways or not at all. You can't have your cake and eat it.
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Hrolf The Ganger

18 Nov 21 1.50pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

Muhammad Ali made himself a 'millionaire' by being the best boxer of his time. The 'white' people you mention were made 'millionaires' by Muhammed Ali as he created his own brand name that the leaches and vultures, primarily 'white' (as you always seem to emphasis skin colour) came flocking around him for easy and free pickings.

Two words. Don King.

This really is a nonsense justification for blatant racism, even by your standards.
Racism goes both ways or not at all. You can't have your cake and eat it.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 1.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep, spicy orange is highly 'racist'....I found his 'Asian restaurant' section highly amusing. I was laughing too much to respond myself. But they all want to focus upon you mate because you're the opposite tribe. While I don't agree with their positions on racism I can respect a position if it's consistent. However, it's notable that whenever 'racism' comes from the left they let it go. Then again, I'm probably guilty of the same tribal bias....However, I don't pretend to have some great moral superiority on 'racism'....because I know it's partly absurdist and often hypocritical. But that's the age we are living in. People trying to destroy others because they named their dog 'Kevin'.....the world's gone nuts. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.51pm) How very true and honest. There is very little honesty on these boards. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Nov 2021 1.52pm)
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18 Nov 21 1.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, spicy orange is highly 'racist'....I found his 'Asian restaurant' section highly amusing. I was laughing too much to respond myself.

But they all want to focus upon you mate because you're the opposite tribe.

While I don't agree with their positions on racism I can respect a position if it's consistent. However, it's notable that whenever 'racism' comes from the left they let it go.

Then again, I'm probably guilty of the same tribal bias....However, I don't pretend to have some great moral superiority on 'racism'....because I know it's partly absurdist and often hypocritical.

But that's the age we are living in.

People trying to destroy others because they named their dog 'Kevin'.....the world's gone nuts.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 1.51pm)

How very true and honest. There is very little honesty on these boards.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Nov 2021 1.52pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 1.52pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 Muhammad Ali made himself a 'millionaire' by being the best boxer of his time. The 'white' people you mention were made 'millionaires' by Muhammed Ali as he created his own brand name that the leaches and vultures, primarily 'white' (as you always seem to emphasis skin colour) came flocking around him for easy and free pickings. I think we can add...not knowing how money works...to your sea of endless talents Spicy. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 1.52pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

Muhammad Ali made himself a 'millionaire' by being the best boxer of his time. The 'white' people you mention were made 'millionaires' by Muhammed Ali as he created his own brand name that the leaches and vultures, primarily 'white' (as you always seem to emphasis skin colour) came flocking around him for easy and free pickings.

I think we can add...not knowing how money works...to your sea of endless talents Spicy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Orange1290 18 Nov 21 1.57pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think we can add...not knowing how money works...to your sea of endless talents Spicy. Yes, most definitely having sold the second of two successful businesses earlier this year that I built from scratch. How about you? Edited by Orange1290 (18 Nov 2021 1.58pm) Pro China, EU & Palestine
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18 Nov 21 1.57pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think we can add...not knowing how money works...to your sea of endless talents Spicy.

Yes, most definitely having sold the second of two successful businesses earlier this year that I built from scratch. How about you?

Edited by Orange1290 (18 Nov 2021 1.58pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 1.59pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I loved Ali but according to him, he was taught by Elijah Muhammad that Whites were devils, and he was happy to repeat that claim in public back in the day. I sympathized with him over the awful treatment he got as a Black man, but one lot of racism does not justify another. Even so, we were happy to let him say it on peak time TV. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Nov 2021 1.47pm) When I was a normie pre-2016 I was very against much of what Ali said on race. I remember arguing to that effect on Hol a couple of times. Post 2016 as my views changed I'm came to agree with a fair amount of it.....though saying all white people were devils is ridiculous...but I recognised to an extent the positions had varying degrees of legitimacy. He was highly intelligent and had a very good sense of humour. Both qualities that make up for a lot in life. Yep, I'm an Ali fan. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 1.59pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Nov 2021 1.47pm)

When I was a normie pre-2016 I was very against much of what Ali said on race. I remember arguing to that effect on Hol a couple of times.

Post 2016 as my views changed I'm came to agree with a fair amount of it.....though saying all white people were devils is ridiculous...but I recognised to an extent the positions had varying degrees of legitimacy.

He was highly intelligent and had a very good sense of humour. Both qualities that make up for a lot in life. Yep, I'm an Ali fan.

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