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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 10.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Apparently the guy who thinks that children should get to decide what sex they are and be able to get physical operations that permanently alter them.....apparently he's careful and wise. Biden is a disaster and the people who supported him have to come to accept that they let emotion come before reason. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 8.41pm) Did you actually watch the video? He said no such thing. He was attacking the regressive, populist, legislation in Florida. That's very different to what you claim. No child can just decide these things for themselves and certainly not get operations that permanently alter them without professional counselling and then, obviously, medical involvement. Gender dysphoria is real. It deserves to be treated seriously a not kicked around as a political football by the right. No one wants anyone making decisions that they might later regret so I am quite sure that in the USA, as I know is done here, a lot of work is done before anything permanent gets undertaken.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 10.06pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He is a dithering old duffer who does not like England very much. I can see why you like him. As I said he doesn't present well, but he chooses well and has surrounded himself with quality who quietly get on with their jobs. This is in stark contrast to Trump who wanted all the focus on himself and all the decisions made by him. Those who refused to be yes men got fired. That's not Presidencial. It's Dictatorship.
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| Stirlingsays 04 May 23 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Did you actually watch the video? He said no such thing. He was attacking the regressive, populist, legislation in Florida. That's very different to what you claim. No child can just decide these things for themselves and certainly not get operations that permanently alter them without professional counselling and then, obviously, medical involvement. Gender dysphoria is real. It deserves to be treated seriously a not kicked around as a political football by the right. No one wants anyone making decisions that they might later regret so I am quite sure that in the USA, as I know is done here, a lot of work is done before anything permanent gets undertaken. Of course I watched the video. I urge others to watch the video and then compare it to your defence of this practice. You could have just said I don't support a child having any permanent physical changes made to interfere with the body's natural healthy development. Children are being permanently physically altered here and when the bell tolls...and it's beginning to happen.....people like you will have to answer for posts like this. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 11.52pm)
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Teddy Eagle  04 May 23 10.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As I said he doesn't present well, but he chooses well and has surrounded himself with quality who quietly get on with their jobs. This is in stark contrast to Trump who wanted all the focus on himself and all the decisions made by him. Those who refused to be yes men got fired. That's not Presidencial. It's Dictatorship. Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up. Barack Obama.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 04 May 23 11.43pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As I said he doesn't present well, but he chooses well and has surrounded himself with quality who quietly get on with their jobs. This is in stark contrast to Trump who wanted all the focus on himself and all the decisions made by him. Those who refused to be yes men got fired. That's not Presidencial. It's Dictatorship. An elected dictatorship? You do opine some rubbish.) ok, I know that's not news )
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| Teddy Eagle 05 May 23 6.42am |
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Orange man bad.
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 georgenorman 05 May 23 6.47am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That Trump presents well and can hold effective rallies is unquestionable. It’s what he says and does which are questionable. Hitler presented well and held effective rallies. He was adored and followed by unquestioning millions too. I am not suggesting Trump holds the same opinions as Hitler, only that the style has echoes. We need to do better than the Germans did in the 1930s. We don’t have their excuses. Biden doesn’t present well or hold rallies. He is though a careful, wise and experienced politician who leads in a collegiate way. He listens to advice before speaking or acting. He is dull, and often boring, but he is steady. Give me the boring but wise over a flashy self opinionated bully any day. I see you are reduced to playing the Hitler card. Godwin's Law is indeed true.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 May 23 8.22am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Of course I watched the video. I urge others to watch the video and then compare it to your defence of this practice. You could have just said I don't support a child having any permanent physical changes made to interfere with the body's natural healthy development. Children are being permanently physically altered here and when the bell tolls...and it's beginning to happen.....people like you will have to answer for posts like this. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 11.52pm) You make this appear as though any child can, on their own, on a whim, take an immature decision to permanently alter their body. The truth is that such things are only done after very careful consideration when a child is suffering such severe mental distress as could result in them harming themselves. Have you considered what it must be like for a child who has been born with physical abnormalities that cause them to consider suicide? Abnormalities that can be corrected but which are being campaigned against by those with a political standpoint.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 May 23 8.25am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I see you are reduced to playing the Hitler card. Godwin's Law is indeed true. I am well aware of Godwin's Law. Analogies using Hitler as an example are made far too often. Which is why I try to avoid them. However, it is sometimes necessary and this is one of them.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 05 May 23 10.31am |
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on the subject of echoing Hitler Edited by HKOwen (05 May 2023 10.33am)
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| georgenorman 05 May 23 11.26am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am well aware of Godwin's Law. Analogies using Hitler as an example are made far too often. Which is why I try to avoid them. However, it is sometimes necessary and this is one of them. So you do equate Trump with Hitler?
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| Stirlingsays 05 May 23 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am well aware of Godwin's Law. Analogies using Hitler as an example are made far too often. Which is why I try to avoid them. However, it is sometimes necessary and this is one of them. TDS.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 May 23 12.54pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
So you do equate Trump with Hitler? No. What I said is what I meant. There are echoes of Hitler in some of the tactics employed, and in the responses of his followers. The large-scale "rallies", the demand for personal loyalty rather than to the country, and the unquestioning adoration of the faithful.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 May 23 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
TDS. The only people suffering from any "derangement" over Trump are those who fail to see any faults in him. I have seen people who elevate him to some kind of Messiah. They are truly deranged.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 May 23 1.28pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The only people suffering from any "derangement" over Trump are those who fail to see any faults in him. I have seen people who elevate him to some kind of Messiah. They are truly deranged. Stormy Daniels missed his second coming.
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| georgenorman 05 May 23 1.55pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. What I said is what I meant. There are echoes of Hitler in some of the tactics employed, and in the responses of his followers. The large-scale "rallies", the demand for personal loyalty rather than to the country, and the unquestioning adoration of the faithful. What you are doing is trying to associate Trump with Hitler.
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| Teddy Eagle 05 May 23 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Stormy Daniels missed his second coming.
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| georgenorman 05 May 23 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The only people suffering from any "derangement" over Trump are those who fail to see any faults in him. I have seen people who elevate him to some kind of Messiah. They are truly deranged. He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy. People who associate him with Hitler are truly deranged.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 05 May 23 5.21pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As I said he doesn't present well, but he chooses well and has surrounded himself with quality who quietly get on with their jobs. This is in stark contrast to Trump who wanted all the focus on himself and all the decisions made by him. Those who refused to be yes men got fired. That's not Presidencial. It's Dictatorship. It's not Presidential either. You claim that the last election was legitimate and anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy nut, and then you call the Trump Presidency 'a dictatorship'. I'm sure the men in white coats are starting up the nut waggon as we speak, but putting a certain post code in Cornwall into the sat nav.
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