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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 31 Jan 22 9.54am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Really? Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia are all havens of peace? This is another myth being fed to the impressionable Trumpkins in the USA via relentless misinformation campaigns. It's regrettable that some here appear to be influenced by them. For an alternative view, try reading this:- I May be wrong but I thought Trump inherited all those conflicts.
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Stirlingsays  31 Jan 22 9.59am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I May be wrong but I thought Trump inherited all those conflicts. You aren't. Trump started no new wars and in his recent comments he's shown against this one too. This is a potential war that is extremely dangerous. But the war mongers are in power.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 31 Jan 22 10.09am |
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Trump bombed just like the others. An American President is up against the military establishment. From JFK to the present, a USA president is under intense pressure to be hostile. With all the hardware at his disposal and the distance from the conflict, the hawks rule.
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| Stirlingsays 31 Jan 22 10.31am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Trump bombed just like the others. An American President is up against the military establishment. From JFK to the present, a USA president is under intense pressure to be hostile. With all the hardware at his disposal and the distance from the conflict, the hawks rule. Well yeah but lets not forget the choice in 2016. Clinton was a hawk on Syria, talking no fly zones and defending against Assad. Trump was only interested in diminishing IS. It's not a matter of it's all the same. Trump was the first president to openly speak out against global wars of the last twenty years, started no new ones, and has spoken out against this coming one. And to be fair to JFK...and I'm not his greatest fan.....he inherited the Cuban invasion plan.....indeed, he refused the air support which basically damned it to failure. Tapes of 63 also indicate that he was against large military involvement in Vietnam. So while I agree with you that the military industrial complex is a thing and an influence....not all presidents knee to it.
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| W12 31 Jan 22 11.31am | |
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| silvertop Portishead 31 Jan 22 11.41am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I May be wrong but I thought Trump inherited all those conflicts. As Biden has?
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| Stirlingsays 31 Jan 22 11.46am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
As Biden has? And look how he handled Afghanistan. He's weak and predictable....His attitude towards Putin has worsened global peace and China increase their threats towards Taiwan. Biden has been a disaster for the US and for the globe.....He was always a swamp lying brown nose politician and he isn't fit to clean swimming pools let alone lead the free world.....ha...as if the word 'free' is even appropriate around today's Democrats.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 22 12.05pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I May be wrong but I thought Trump inherited all those conflicts. They didn't start during his term, but the comment I was responding to was that there were no conflicts whilst he was in office. Which isn't true. So the real question is whether he made the situation better, or worse.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 22 12.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You aren't. Trump started no new wars and in his recent comments he's shown against this one too. This is a potential war that is extremely dangerous. But the war mongers are in power. Of course he is against "this one"! His mate in Moscow has told him he he has to be.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 31 Jan 22 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
As Biden has? And what did he do with Afghanistan? Got a list of top 5 things not to do and did each one, what a senile tw2t
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 31 Jan 22 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
What, he didn't make you Lord Wisbelch? Very good
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 22 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I did suggest that as a staunch defender of the establishment he should have been recognised in the New year's Eve honours list. I am no defender of the "establishment"! I am a defender of common sense, decency and honesty in public life. Following the established procedures, developed and tested over many years, has nothing to do with supporting those charged to uphold them. Especially when this bunch of clowns are holding office.
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