Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

Slavery was never abolished.
It was perfected.

Buy Litecoin.

This is a very good article about Britain's 'imperial amnesia'.

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Nah, I'll just try and get on with things while you lot go about arguing about your cock sizes for the next 2 years.

Genuine lol

Now that we've triggered Article 50, can the remainiacs stipulate the timetable of Armageddon, as per the "expert consensus" provided during the referendum campaign.

When will house prices plummet (actually looking forward to that one)
When's the mass unemployment?
Is the capital flight before or after Qatari and Deutsche Bank (just this week alone) ploughing billions (not hyperbole, yes - billions) into the economy
When do I have to pay my £4300 Brexit bill?
Is there anything locusts don't like?
Is the punishment budget next week?

Will be interesting to see how these expert predictions stand the test of time. Not that the acolytes will ever concede they got it wrong.

I'm personally looking forward to the citizens of these countries getting mighty pissed off that their leaders (unelected or otherwise) are more interested in politiking for the dream of an "ever closer union" too-big-to-fail self-punishing superstate than they are about securing jobs, safety and security with what will be their largest economic neighbour. The goodwill towards Brussels will evaporate very soon after they prioritise their sad little flag ahead of mouthes to feed.

Well just this week Goldmans, JPM, and two other global banks admitted they were going to moving operations to Europe. Lloyds of London has had to set up a significant operation in Brussels (and that's after two other major insurers already moved) and just about every major non-UK bank (and even a couple of the UK ones) are drawing up plans to move staff to EU countries.

So it is happening.

And if you really wanted to point to a good indicator of global prosperity, you literally couldn't have picked a worse one that DB - the basket case of global banking (except perhaps RBS).

The majority of this country now believe that in the next 10 years we will be worse off (polling for IHS Markit today - 28.9% better, 18% same, 53% worse). That includes a large number of those who voted for Brexit. There is no coherent argument - at least one that is not predicated on blind faith - that says we will be better off.

Sovereignty may return (it's a bit of a myth anyway) and immigration may be cut (although the government already indicating that's probably not going to happen by much), but this bonfire of the regulations that's supposed to free up British business to rule the world again? It's a fiction.

And to be clear I don't know what is going to happen. But it is a much more reasonable argument to suggest we are likely to struggle economically than the magical world of fairies and unicorns that Brexiters like yourself were peddling.

Edited by OknotOK (30 Mar 2017 10.04am)

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Eh? That link confirms Goldmans and JPM will be moving staff to Europe?

They won't be leaving the UK entirely - but they will be moving staff and operations out there.

They're all making fairly sensible plans to move some staff definitely, set up licenses if needed in European countries (mostly Germany or Ireland), and then provisional plans which will depend upon the outcome of the negotiations.

Brexit will have an impact. At the moment no one knows how serious it will be. No one knows whether it will mean all the non-UK banks move everything to Dublin or Frankfurt. Or spread themselves out over the EU. Or move very little.

But there are going to be job losses in the Financial Services industry in the UK and they will be significant. Whether they number in the low thousands or the tens of thousands. That's the reality based just on what has already been announced.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

LLoyds of London just announced they are opening up another shop in Brussels because of Brexit and 'only' around 90-95 it sound's like jobs affected.

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Edited by Kermit8 (30 Mar 2017 11.01am)

Big chest and massive boobs

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When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious that what they had in mind was not democratic. I mean, in Britain you vote for the government and therefore the government has to listen to you, and if you don’t like it you can change it. But in Europe all the key positions are appointed, not elected – the Commission, for example. All appointed, not one of them elected.

[..] And my view about the European Union has always been not that I am hostile to foreigners, but that I am in favour of democracy. And I think out of this story we have to find an answer, because I certainly don’t want to live in hostility to the European Union but I think they are building an empire there and they want us to be a part of that empire, and I don’t want that.

Who said all this, Nigel Farage? In fact it was Tony Benn at the Oxford Union in 2013.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

And not only that....Corbyn has been campaigning against the EU bureaucracy, greed and criminal waste for the past 40 years when he was a backbencher.... it's difficult to believe that he has had an epiphany when made Labour Leader and now supports the EU failed experiment?