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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 11 Mar 21 5.23pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


People are really lacking in brain functions in here Roy clearly stated he wont discus anything to do with contract so how can club offer anything when he has said he has no interest in getting into it so any offers can only be done at end of the season when he is open to listening if he wants to continue.

It's very simple to follow.

So you think its not selfish for a guy to wait until his contract expires before willing to open up talks about it this holds you back as a business you need to know in advance the direction you are going in.


Edited by grumpymort (11 Mar 2021 5.15pm)

Of the three of us, I would agree that one is lacking in '' brain functions '' and I know it's not TBTP or me.

What part of you ( I guess it's your brain ) doesn't understand that Hodgson is an employee and not in the driving seat when it comes to a new contract.

Get a grip

 


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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 11 Mar 21 5.34pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Speculation abounds with differences in the 'Mood music'.
I believe it will be as clear as the 'Aurora Borealis' in the not too distant future.


Why do you keep repeatedly stating the same obvious point Willo?

We know Roy has a little over two months left to run on his contract, so we will undoubtedly know what is happening ‘very soon’ or in the ‘not too distant future’ as you keep telling us.

Like you, I was also carrying out some internet research to see when Roy signed his current contract extension...It turns out it was 06/03/20 so roughly the same time of the year as now and with exactly the same number of games remaining (ten).

Roy was clearly happy to negotiate his contract before the end of season last year and so any suggestion that he is not willing to enter any contract negotiations until the end of the season this year would seem more than a little bizarre and also a complete contradiction of his previous approach.

This just provides further encouragement that Parish is planning a change of manager for next year.


Edited by Phil’s Barber (11 Mar 2021 5.36pm)

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 11 Mar 21 5.39pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

If we beat West Brom then we will be all but safe (again), and there will be an unusually long break in the schedule. If we come out the other end of that break, off the back of that win, and Hodgson has not been offered a contract then I'd wager that he ain't getting offered one. He will know it, everyone will see it.

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 11 Mar 21 5.43pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

If we beat West Brom then we will be all but safe (again), and there will be an unusually long break in the schedule. If we come out the other end of that break, off the back of that win, and Hodgson has not been offered a contract then I'd wager that he ain't getting offered one. He will know it, everyone will see it.

I am more than a little inclined to agree with you TBTP.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 21 5.49pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber


Why do you keep repeatedly stating the same obvious point Willo?

We know Roy has a little over two months left to run on his contract, so we will undoubtedly know what is happening ‘very soon’ or in the ‘not too distant future’ as you keep telling us.

Like you, I was also carrying out some internet research to see when Roy signed his current contract extension...It turns out it was 06/03/20 so roughly the same time of the year as now and with exactly the same number of games remaining (ten).

Roy was clearly happy to negotiate his contract before the end of season last year and so any suggestion that he is not willing to enter any contract negotiations until the end of the season this year would seem more than a little bizarre and also a complete contradiction of his previous approach.

This just provides further encouragement that Parish is planning a change of manager for next year.


Edited by Phil’s Barber (11 Mar 2021 5.36pm)

For avoidance of doubt, I never conducted any Internet research on this matter, the information was relayed to me as part of a communication regarding Mr Hodgson.

In relation to your first point, time will tell if supporters have to wait for an announcement until the end of the season or matters become clear before then.

Edited by Willo (11 Mar 2021 5.51pm)

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 11 Mar 21 5.54pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

In fact, I do wonder if the day after we are mathematically safe (whenever that is) will be something of a day of the long knives at Selhurst.

If you were Parish and you had decided to offer new terms to most of the out-of-contract players then you would have done it by now. He has for Jairo, and for Guaita.

If, on the other hand, you were Parish and you wanted to have a big cull (manager, staff and players), but you needed those same individuals to perform for a while yet, you'd do exactly what he is doing right now. Keep quiet until you don't need them anymore.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 21 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

In fact, I do wonder if the day after we are mathematically safe (whenever that is) will be something of a day of the long knives at Selhurst.

If you were Parish and you had decided to offer new terms to most of the out-of-contract players then you would have done it by now. He has for Jairo, and for Guaita.

If, on the other hand, you were Parish and you wanted to have a big cull (manager, staff and players), but you needed those same individuals to perform for a while yet, you'd do exactly what he is doing right now. Keep quiet until you don't need them anymore.

This was along the lines of sentiments that were expressed to me last night.

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 11 Mar 21 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

For avoidance of doubt, I never conducted any Internet research on this matter, the information was relayed to me as part of a communication regarding Mr Hodgson.

In relation to your first point, time will tell if supporters have to wait for an announcement until the end of the season or matters become clear before then.

Edited by Willo (11 Mar 2021 5.51pm)

Just for clarity Willo, I was not (and am still not) in any doubt whatsoever.

I was only opining just the other night, with a former league manager, a current ‘top tier’ coach, a Championship scout, a non-league groundsman, a hot dog seller from the Stan Cullis concourse and a young couple walking their dog on Ferring beach, just how accurate your ageing recall is. In fact, if my memory serves me right, I don’t think you’ve ever been anything other than 100% accurate about any fact or statistic you’ve provided.....EVER. Even if the subject matter is about a youth team player from Accrington Stanley (who no one else has ever heard of) or it’s the net transfer spend of Brora Rangers for the 2012/13 Season.

Quite remarkable! (Tips hat)

Edited by Phil’s Barber (11 Mar 2021 6.53pm)

 

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southnorwoodhill Flag 11 Mar 21 6.30pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

In fact, I do wonder if the day after we are mathematically safe (whenever that is) will be something of a day of the long knives at Selhurst.

If you were Parish and you had decided to offer new terms to most of the out-of-contract players then you would have done it by now. He has for Jairo, and for Guaita.

If, on the other hand, you were Parish and you wanted to have a big cull (manager, staff and players), but you needed those same individuals to perform for a while yet, you'd do exactly what he is doing right now. Keep quiet until you don't need them anymore.

My thoughts also. Parish must have noticed last season at that point when we were assured of safety the players stopped playing and lost seven in a row.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 21 6.38pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Just for clarity Willo, I was not (and am still not) in any doubt whatsoever.

I was only opining just the other night, with a former league manager a current ‘top tier’ coach, a Championship scout, a non-league groundsman, a hot dog seller from the Stan Cullis concourse and a young couple walking their dog on Ferring beach, just how accurate your ageing recall is. In fact, if my memory serves me right, I don’t think you’ve ever been anything other than 100% accurate about any fact or statistic you’ve provided.....EVER. Even if the subject matter is about a youth team player from Accrington Stanley (who no one else has ever heard of) or it’s the net transfer spend of Brora Rangers for the 2012/13 Season.

Quite remarkable! (Tips hat)

I repeat that in respect of the timing of Mr Hodgson signing his last contract I certainly did NOT consult the Internet for this information.

Of course I do research some facts to try and add a certain value to the discussion and to the best of my knowledge this is permitted and is NOT a hanging offence.

Finally, you mentioned Ferring beach.I have taken a few genteel strolls along it and stopped and enjoyed the hospitality at the delightful 'Bluebird' cafe alongside.Seen many couples walking their dogs in this vicinity and along the greensward.
Clearly to some, this final comment is a work of fiction having conducted a research of the area.


Edited by Willo (11 Mar 2021 7.10pm)

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 11 Mar 21 7.26pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

My thoughts also. Parish must have noticed last season at that point when we were assured of safety the players stopped playing and lost seven in a row.

And that's when they had contracts for the following season!

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Mar 21 10.07pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

You seem to have an inside track on whatever is going on between Roy and the Club.

Please update regularly so we are not distracted by guesses and opinions from the Roy Out brigade with mindless comments and opinions.

Thanks

Originally posted by grumpymort


If you love the job so much why are you waiting until the end of the season to even open talks about a new deal that makes no sense.

That is selfishness its all about him.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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