What you mean like Joining the Queens Privy Council, (ensuring over 6 million of funding in the process) when he will bow before the queen and kiss her hand ?

All this this despite not singing the NATIONAL Anthem.

Blokes a two faced snidey little t w a t t he probably got bullied at school.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

I don't have the time nor inclination to read through every post on this topic, so apologies if I am repeating things.So just a few mutterings on my part.

It is obvious that the guy will have a big battle on his hands over the next few years. Firstly from within his own party, but also from without.

It goes without saying the Tories will wage a concerted campaign against him, but so too will the "establishment". The right-wing press will do everything in their power to discredit him and ensure he doesn't win the next election. Business leaders will no doubt do likewise. The intention will be to create an overriding fear in the public of what a Corbyn led country would be like - high taxes, union strife etc.

He has obviously resonated with a segment (s) of society - young, unemployed, poorly paid, ethnic minorities, students, long-term ideological socialists. But he is going to have to win over many more if he is going to be PM. If he is to stand a chance he has to come up with some new and exciting ideas that don't just rely on rehashed 1970s socialist dogma.

The fact is that the political consensus took a move to the right during the Thatcher years, and although it has to an extent moved some way back in the other direction in the intervening years, some Thatcherite philosophy has become entrenched. This means that whereas some of his ideas may have seemed unexceptional in the 1970s, they now sound and feel out of kilter with the 21st century.

This is where he has to offer something different and fresh to make people think that perhaps he is not just a left-wing dinosaur. It could be on pensions,Europe, economic growth, financing the NHS, education, housing, or whatever. But he has got to offer a a new vision that doesn't appear to just entail business bashing, jacking up taxes, and creating an anti-entrepreneurial atmosphere.

He will have to embrace and gain the confidence of more than just the dispossessed and under-privileged to have a cat in hells chance of being PM.

The only "Vision" is the hard-left politics of envy and social division. In fact one senior Labour figure described Corbyn as an "Early 80s Trotskyist tribute act".
Corbyn embodies a form of extreme Socialism, so old that many have forgotten how dangerous it can be.The Labour party is in chaos.

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That's not true at all, and I can see why people perceive it differently. I just find it weird that people are so p*ssed off about it when there's a million and one other things more important in the world.

I love it Willo.... your best post EVER!

Early 80's Trotskyist Tribute Act

Hahahaha

Priceless

For some people maybe, same as how right wing politics is about greed and spite for some right winger. For most its about social justice, standards of living, reasonable incomes for workers, educational equality etc and redressing the inequalities that capitalism generates (or more notably big business and corporate self interest generate).

I find it exceptionally ignorant when people write off whole groups of people through their own prejudice.

Corbyn, extreme socialism. He's old school labour, but lets not pretend that he's on the far left, planning the armed revolution of the proletariat or envisioning the ideology of a perpetual revolution.

He is the fairly elected leader of the Labour party, not some imagined demon set loose to destroy the UK and calling him a threat to the nation before he's even established any policy decisions or released a manifesto, undermines the very concept of democratic process.

Its as unbefitting as calling Cameron a facist or similar. All it shows is ignorance in the person.

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You're intelligent enough to understand this is about perception and whether he has respect for those who participated in the Battle of Britain.

He will be judged on matters like this - if he is going to try and be elected to lead this country, he will need to show respect to it, however much that might grate with his 'convictions'.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Not wishing to steal Willo's thunder, but I believe this is a direct quote from Jon Cruddas MP (Lab, Dagenham & Rainham)

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

Isn't his speech where he actually said that he had respect for those who participated in the Battle of Britain and World War 2 as a whole more of a sign than whether or not or sings the anthem?

I'm not saying that wasn't slightly foolish or misguided not to sing it, I just don't think it's the big deal that it's being made out to be.

Sorry, I don't see the link between a national anthem and showing respect for the servicemen and women, of many nations, who were responsible for the success of the RAF in those trying times. Is there only one permitted route of showing respect, singing the 'approved song'. What about those of the RAF in those dark hours who weren't British Subject or were Republican?

You can show respect in your own way, fortunately, because we didn't lose the war.

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