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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 05 11.04am |
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Don't know why my name isn't on that post....
Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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| Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 11.04am |
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Why haven't you got a user name?
Shared history - ever heard of the British empire?!?
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 furrybloke Hemel Hempstead 14 Jul 05 11.05am |
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ID cards in my opinion are a good thing but they will not stop terrorists. We should be told that the real reason for them is to stop the fraud, no card = no dole money, no card or E111 or insurance = no NHS treatment & so on.
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| Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 11.05am |
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Ah it was you CF!
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 05 11.06am |
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Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:04am
Why haven't you got a user name?
Shared history - ever heard of the British empire?!?
The history of India didn't begin with the British Empire, for christ's sake!!!!
Ever heard of the Mogul Empire?
Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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| cpfc-rjd Beckenham and the BBS 14 Jul 05 11.06am |
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I’ve never trusted this government with information and do not trust them to use it correctly. The big brother points raised were about the loss of civil liberties. Most people can accept some loss of liberty if it will help to keep them safe. I didn’t consider that the government’s ideas would keep us safe.
The problem is that the government and the Muslim community didn’t want to accept that they had a problem. The outcry that surrounded comments suggesting that Muslims might be searched more than other groups shows how ridiculous this became. Of course they should be prepared to be searched more often. Of course they will be under surveillance more. It’s common sense.
Taking civil liberties away when there is no benefit to us will not help anyone. It is a balancing act. Banging on about stupid ID cards etc. will help no one.
The best people to police the loonies are the Muslim community. They must take some responsibility for ensuring this doesn’t happen again.
"Her very Lowness with her head in a sling
I'm truly sorry but it sounds like a wonderful thing"
NEITHER LEFT OR RIGHT BUT OUT IN FRONT
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| Bexter By the Sea 14 Jul 05 11.06am |
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exactly, there were british, not immigrants who have come in under our 'soft lilly liberal' system, in fact, they or their parents probably came here during tory reign, and the organisation who claim responsibility say it was because of the war in iraq - another right of centre decision - so it's still the lefties fault is it? i don't want to start an argument here, i am so proud our intelligence found them so quickly and i hope to god the muslim community works with us all here, it's the only way, i hope the joint conference with blair really gets the motivation going for them to take some action within here to help.
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| furrybloke Hemel Hempstead 14 Jul 05 11.06am |
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& as for Chicken Tikka Massala, you will find if you do the research this is a LONDON dish, I understand in India they do not have the sauce that we have just spiced meat, maybe I am wrong so please feel free to correct me.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 05 11.06am |
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Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:05am
Ah it was you CF!
I thought I'd got banned for a minute!
Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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| Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 11.07am |
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Quote Cucking Funt at 14 Jul 2005 11:06am
Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:04am
Why haven't you got a user name?
Shared history - ever heard of the British empire?!?
The history of India didn't begin with the British Empire, for christ's sake!!!!
Ever heard of the Mogul Empire?
Never heard of that one...
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 05 11.10am |
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Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:07am
Quote Cucking Funt at 14 Jul 2005 11:06am
Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:04am
Why haven't you got a user name?
Shared history - ever heard of the British empire?!?
The history of India didn't begin with the British Empire, for christ's sake!!!!
Ever heard of the Mogul Empire?
Never heard of that one...
If memory serves.... the Moguls were pretty important dudes in that neck of the woods way back when. No time to delve into the history books at the moment but India was a pretty happening place in the Middle Ages.
Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 14 Jul 05 11.11am |
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Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 10:57am
Yes but not OUR system of law/government etc.
Commonwealth countries have a shared British culture. I just can't understand an argument against this.
Yes, the British influenced lots of countries in the Empire days and instilled government etc. However the cultures are quite clearly very different to each other! Benidorm has more in common with any UK town than Lahore!
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| Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 11.11am |
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I thought you meant Monghuls (spelling?)!! As in Genghis Khan....
Edited by Balham Burner (14 Jul 2005 11:12am)
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| kav The Helicopter View 14 Jul 05 11.12am |
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Just like to remind people of the two minute silence at 12.00 midday(sorry if it`s been mentioned,couldn`t see it).
Everytime I get high I lay my head on my baby's breasts
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| Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 11.14am |
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Quote Penge Eagle at 14 Jul 2005 11:11am
Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 10:57am
Yes but not OUR system of law/government etc.
Commonwealth countries have a shared British culture. I just can't understand an argument against this.
Yes, the British influenced lots of countries in the Empire days and instilled government etc. However the cultures are quite clearly very different to each other! Benidorm has more in common with any UK town than Lahore!
I'm sorry but I just disagree. When Michael Palin did that round the world show there was loads of stuff on India - in some parts the architecture, traditions etc were so British!! I've never been there though - can anyone who has travelled there enlighten us?
In fact in our increasingly adonyne, technological and urban society in a bizarre way some parts of India could be said to be more traditionally British?!?
Anyway I've got s*** loads of work to do - back in a few hours...
Edited by Balham Burner (14 Jul 2005 11:15am)
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 05 11.15am |
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Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:11am
I thought you meant Monghuls (spelling?)!! As in Genghis Khan....
Edited by Balham Burner (14 Jul 2005 11:12am)
The Moguls were different to the Mongols.
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Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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| Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 11.19am |
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You learn something new everyday....
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 05 11.23am |
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Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:19am
You learn something new everyday....
Stick with me, old chap.... you'll go far!
Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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KAOS  In a tree 14 Jul 05 11.33am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called '2 minute silence at 12pm - don't forget!' by Moose
Only wish there was more we could do but sentiment has got to count for something.
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| cpfc-rjd Beckenham and the BBS 14 Jul 05 11.45am |
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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Jul 2005 11:35am
What f*cking difference does it make if we have the same culture or not? Why not CELEBRATE these differences and make the most of being able to dabble in and enjoy others' culture, rather than condemn it and call for all traces of it to be expelled? If we were all the same as eachother - especially if that involved being involved in tired cliches about the specialness of Britain - then it'd be a boring country indeed.
But cultures are NOT mixing are they? That's the problem.
Your comments are as simplistic as any from the BNP. The reality is far more complicated. Multi-culturalism becomes a problem when communities don't mix, when they consider themselves separate and apart from the main society. No doubt you would pin the blame for this on racism etc. But part of the blame must lie with the communities themselves.
"Her very Lowness with her head in a sling
I'm truly sorry but it sounds like a wonderful thing"
NEITHER LEFT OR RIGHT BUT OUT IN FRONT
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