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| Hoof Hearted 16 Sep 15 12.16pm |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 16 Sep 2015 11.54am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Sep 2015 11.36am
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 11.10am
Quote Pete53 at 16 Sep 2015 11.00am
. But he has got to offer a a new vision.
The only "Vision" is the hard-left politics of envy and social division. In fact one senior Labour figure described Corbyn as an "Early 80s Trotskyist tribute act".
Corbyn embodies a form of extreme Socialism, so old that many have forgotten how dangerous it can be.The Labour party is in chaos.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 11.11am)
I love it Willo.... your best post EVER!
Early 80's Trotskyist Tribute Act
Hahahaha
Priceless
Not wishing to steal Willo's thunder, but I believe this is a direct quote from Jon Cruddas MP (Lab, Dagenham & Rainham)
Willo did credit his source Johnny.
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 DanH  SW2 16 Sep 15 12.16pm |
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Refreshing PMQs so far. Cameron dealing with it very well.
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| Hoof Hearted 16 Sep 15 12.18pm |
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Quote DanH at 16 Sep 2015 12.16pm
Refreshing PMQs so far. Cameron dealing with it very well.
Who's ahead on points Dan?
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| DanH SW2 16 Sep 15 12.21pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Sep 2015 12.18pm
Quote DanH at 16 Sep 2015 12.16pm
Refreshing PMQs so far. Cameron dealing with it very well.
Who's ahead on points Dan?
I'll tell who's not - the tiger! Imagine coming to this moment and asking a question about a f*cking tiger.
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Kermit8  Hevon 16 Sep 15 12.22pm |
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An excellent first twenty mins PMQ for Corbyn (still in progress) and Cameron held his own very well too. Sensible questions and answers were mostly straight to the point and reasonable.
I think the PM actually enjoyed being robustly challenged on real concerns from real people via JC. Housing, mental health care and families on lower incomes have all been discussed.
Big chest and massive boobs
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| DanH SW2 16 Sep 15 12.24pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 12.22pm
An excellent first twenty mins PMQ for Corbyn (still in progress) and Cameron held his own very well too. Sensible questions and answers were mostly straight to the point and reasonable.
I think the PM actually enjoyed being robustly challenged on real concerns from real people via JC. Housing, mental health care and families on lower incomes have all been discussed.
Annoying that it's already reverted to the usual scripted b*llocks.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Sep 15 12.30pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Sep 2015 12.18pm
Quote DanH at 16 Sep 2015 12.16pm
Refreshing PMQs so far. Cameron dealing with it very well.
Who's ahead on points Dan?
They are not point-scoring Hoof. Not sure how long that will last but it is proper grown-up stuff with no childish baiting or ridiculous spin. Though the PM obviously is glossing over one or two things but at least he is not doing so in an overly patronising way.
One thing I still don't get - and it was raised - is why families with young children whose parents have one full time job and one part time are being punished by the considerable reduction of their tax credits by the government about now.
So if they earn £30k between them before tax they are now going to be something like £140 a month worse off. Cameron's answer was about those who will have a higher minimum wage and not really to do with them.
Big chest and massive boobs
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Sep 15 12.31pm |
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Quote DanH at 16 Sep 2015 12.24pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 12.22pm
An excellent first twenty mins PMQ for Corbyn (still in progress) and Cameron held his own very well too. Sensible questions and answers were mostly straight to the point and reasonable.
I think the PM actually enjoyed being robustly challenged on real concerns from real people via JC. Housing, mental health care and families on lower incomes have all been discussed.
Annoying that it's already reverted to the usual scripted b*llocks.
I turned off after the six q's allowed for Corbyn.
Big chest and massive boobs
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 16 Sep 15 1.00pm |
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I think this is very well-intentioned from Mr Corbyn, but it isn't going to do him any favours. This exchange let Cameron set the agenda, mainly because he didn't hone in on one (or perhaps) two subjects. Cameron could give simple answers back and they came across acceptable, therefore setting the agenda with no marks left on him.
If Corbyn wants to do damage to Cameron's image, he'll have to go a bit more partisan. Which he will. I'm pretty sure every Leader of the Opposition has started off trying this way to a certain extent.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Sep 15 1.11pm |
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Quote We are goin up! at 16 Sep 2015 1.00pm
I think this is very well-intentioned from Mr Corbyn, but it isn't going to do him any favours. This exchange let Cameron set the agenda, mainly because he didn't hone in on one (or perhaps) two subjects. Cameron could give simple answers back and they came across acceptable, therefore setting the agenda with no marks left on him.
If Corbyn wants to do damage to Cameron's image, he'll have to go a bit more partisan. Which he will. I'm pretty sure every Leader of the Opposition has started off trying this way to a certain extent.
Isn't that what politics should be about, someone asks a question, the askee replies and so on. Reasonable debate rather than attacking someone's image, heckling and baying.
Shouldn't it be where the Prime Minister answers the questions of MPs (ideally from the people). Not a point scoring contest between two different people. Personally I want politicians to directly answer questions rather than try to look good or sound good.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 1.29pm |
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It's a ploy by Corbyn to try and make PMQs more downbeat as he knows he would be ripped apart by Cameron in a "Yah boo" exchange.
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 16 Sep 15 1.53pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Sep 2015 1.11pm
Quote We are goin up! at 16 Sep 2015 1.00pm
I think this is very well-intentioned from Mr Corbyn, but it isn't going to do him any favours. This exchange let Cameron set the agenda, mainly because he didn't hone in on one (or perhaps) two subjects. Cameron could give simple answers back and they came across acceptable, therefore setting the agenda with no marks left on him.
If Corbyn wants to do damage to Cameron's image, he'll have to go a bit more partisan. Which he will. I'm pretty sure every Leader of the Opposition has started off trying this way to a certain extent.
Isn't that what politics should be about, someone asks a question, the askee replies and so on. Reasonable debate rather than attacking someone's image, heckling and baying.
Shouldn't it be where the Prime Minister answers the questions of MPs (ideally from the people). Not a point scoring contest between two different people. Personally I want politicians to directly answer questions rather than try to look good or sound good.
I don't disagree with you. But if he wants to actually win an election I think he'll have to change course. This was a refreshing change but he can't do it every week. It's too easy for Cameron.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Sep 15 2.27pm |
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 1.29pm
It's a ploy by Corbyn to try and make PMQs more downbeat as he knows he would be ripped apart by Cameron in a "Yah boo" exchange.
Replace 'downbeat' with 'mature' I entirely agree with you.
Big chest and massive boobs
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Sep 15 2.35pm |
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I see some of the usual left wing chaps on here already in the denial stage.
Looking forward to anger and bargaining.
Corbyn can ask all he likes at question time but his face doesn't fit the 21st century. Sorry to be so cynical and broad stroke about it but that is the reality.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Sep 15 3.04pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 2.27pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 1.29pm
It's a ploy by Corbyn to try and make PMQs more downbeat as he knows he would be ripped apart by Cameron in a "Yah boo" exchange.
Replace 'downbeat' with 'mature' I entirely agree with you.
Weak.
"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Sep 15 3.21pm |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Sep 2015 2.35pm
I see some of the usual left wing chaps on here already in the denial stage.
Looking forward to anger and bargaining.
Corbyn can ask all he likes at question time but his face doesn't fit the 21st century. Sorry to be so cynical and broad stroke about it but that is the reality.
Doesn't matter really if his 'face fits' or not, or if people who'd never vote for him don't like him, the reason he is there is on the basis of a democratic mandate of the Labour party, by an approved process.
What disturbs me most are 'Labour Party Parliamentary members' who seem to think they're more important than the people who vote for them. It won't be Corbyn that sinks the party, it'll be members of the party throwing hissy fits because their own membership voted for someone they didn't want.
It'll like be the who 'Euro' schism of the Tory party that f**ked their own party in the 90s and early 21st century.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Sep 15 3.23pm |
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 1.29pm
It's a ploy by Corbyn to try and make PMQs more downbeat as he knows he would be ripped apart by Cameron in a "Yah boo" exchange.
Isn't that a good thing? Personally I don't see that the whole 'yah boo' thing actually serves the electorate. Shouldn't PMQ be about getting the prime minister to answer questions?
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Sep 15 4.56pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Sep 2015 3.21pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Sep 2015 2.35pm
I see some of the usual left wing chaps on here already in the denial stage.
Looking forward to anger and bargaining.
Corbyn can ask all he likes at question time but his face doesn't fit the 21st century. Sorry to be so cynical and broad stroke about it but that is the reality.
Doesn't matter really if his 'face fits' or not, or if people who'd never vote for him don't like him, the reason he is there is on the basis of a democratic mandate of the Labour party, by an approved process.
What disturbs me most are 'Labour Party Parliamentary members' who seem to think they're more important than the people who vote for them. It won't be Corbyn that sinks the party, it'll be members of the party throwing hissy fits because their own membership voted for someone they didn't want.
It'll like be the who 'Euro' schism of the Tory party that f**ked their own party in the 90s and early 21st century.
Nail on head.
However, I do actually believe that his face does matter. People who vote for personality and floating voters in general will not vote for this man. If Milliband was a liability for Labour then Corbyn will be like the Anti Christ.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 5.02pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Sep 2015 3.23pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 1.29pm
It's a ploy by Corbyn to try and make PMQs more downbeat as he knows he would be ripped apart by Cameron in a "Yah boo" exchange.
Isn't that a good thing? Personally I don't see that the whole 'yah boo' thing actually serves the electorate. Shouldn't PMQ be about getting the prime minister to answer questions?
The Prime Minister can still answer questions in a "Yah Boo" environment.
If today's PMQs is anything to go by maybe the TV companies will consider it far too boring to broadcast !
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 16 Sep 15 5.04pm |
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I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
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