I now live in Lewisham. Used to live in Cambridge and did so when I joined HOL hence the name. If you're from Stirling I have no idea what it's like so can't comment. Lewisham however I like and feel has benefited from immigration and from inward immigration into London in general, like the majority of places where immigrants have settled in the UK in numbers. The places most tolerant of immigration are those most directly impacted by it. Public accounts also show that immigration has been a significant net benefit to the economy, not to mention public services. The issues of under-funding and overcrowding, and unemployment and national policy issues created and exacerbated by consecutive governments' failure to invest in education, services and infrastructure and made significantly worse by poorly handled monetary policy (QE) and fiscal policy (austerity).

My point about Nuttall was his use of casual lies in public about himself. My comment was only meant to reflect on him and his party.

They used fear and lies about immigration to win votes. See insert.

You can choose what books to read. Built-in or other default RSS and news feeds on devices are chosen for you. Consider the Amazon Echo and applications like Cortana and Siri.....ask them for the latest news and you'll get what the likes of Jeff Bezos (owner of the laughable Washington Post as well as Amazon) want you to get. If you think otherwise, you'll be deluding yourself.

That's the beginning and end of the argument for me.

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Access to books should be a foundation of any civilised society IMHO.

That is a lot less people than it used to be.

I suppose your attitude highlights the problem with Labour. You think that everyone is entitled to everything regardless of if they contribute to society or if the budget can afford it.
You criticise the modern capitalist society but you would be the first to approve of borrowing money to keep services going that are not a priority in the modern information rich world.

That is a load of old cobblers.

Libraries are part of a civilised society they don't cost much not a left-right argument at all probably used by more tory ladies than anyone else.

Will be interesting to see if Mrs May comes to see the ceremony of burning the books like her predecessor and mentor Adolf Hitler did.

Whoooooooossshhh!!!!!

Which is why libraries are important.
Loads of oaps in Chislehurst use the library. Many will never be tech savvy although the library has been known to offer courses.

*Faux Lefty flounce alert*

This isn't Fahrenheit 451 comrade.

They are either spread around other libraries in the same area if they are 'new' enough,or sold off to the general public usually.

The Tories are a cancer on the UK and they have been for decades.

I live in a village,we have a mobile library that visits once a week.
But I do agree libraries should be kept wherever possible.
But maybe if the local authorities that are threatening to close them,should look at how much their chief executives are paid first...accross all political parties before any one shouts too f***ing loud.