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Tickled pink Cornwall 28 Nov 20 2.05pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Not sure, was hardly impressive with Bournemouth in the end. You learn from mistakes.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 28 Nov 20 2.05pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Not sure, was hardly impressive with Bournemouth in the end.

You learn from mistakes.

Tickled pink Cornwall 28 Nov 20 2.07pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops And just because you keep posting the same thing Tickled doesn’t mean you are right. You feel you have the moral high ground but I’m afraid football matches have nothing to do with morals and if the last half a seasons stats don’t worry you then nothing will. Our squad worries me greatly, our manager doesn't.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 28 Nov 20 2.07pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

And just because you keep posting the same thing Tickled doesn’t mean you are right. You feel you have the moral high ground but I’m afraid football matches have nothing to do with morals and if the last half a seasons stats don’t worry you then nothing will.

Our squad worries me greatly, our manager doesn't.

CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE bloomfield 28 Nov 20 2.44pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink I've given up trying to inform the fans on here who want to see us playing like Wenger's Arsenal with the words you've used, you're very very very correct but some fans have made their minds up and that is that. you are so ambitionless mate. this league is ruthless for teams that aim for mid table mediocrity. its more an up or out reward system.

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bloomfield 28 Nov 20 2.44pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

I've given up trying to inform the fans on here who want to see us playing like Wenger's Arsenal with the words you've used, you're very very very correct but some fans have made their minds up and that is that.

you are so ambitionless mate. this league is ruthless for teams that aim for mid table mediocrity. its more an up or out reward system.

CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE bloomfield 28 Nov 20 2.46pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid Any manager is only six games or so from the sack and our form over this last few games speaks for itself particularly against the back drop of end of last season. But let’s be honest we’re a one man show. I think he’ll be under huge pressure if we fail to beat West Brom. And yes WBA are capable of beating us in current form

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bloomfield 28 Nov 20 2.46pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Any manager is only six games or so from the sack and our form over this last few games speaks for itself particularly against the back drop of end of last season. But let’s be honest we’re a one man show.

I think he’ll be under huge pressure if we fail to beat West Brom.

And yes WBA are capable of beating us in current form

Rachid Rachid Rachid 28 Nov 20 3.46pm
Originally posted by Elwissthebest The stats don't lie. Palace without Zaha is unlikely to win. The issue is why we have become a team so reliant on one player. It's not obvious that Zaha would walk into the starting XI of any Premiership top six club, but if his heart's not in it any more at Palace, then plan for life without him. Seven seasons in the Premiership and all the money that has brought in should mean that we can do better than lose to teams as mediocre as Burnley and Newcastle. Why can't we be as good as Southampton? The South London hinterland must be as if not more productive than the south coast. No doubt more money could and should have been put in. It's always easy to spend someone else's money. Watching turgid football might be palatable if the results are there, but in the absence of points and goals, it is just moonshine to say 'everything will be alright'. When a manager says he is 'obliged to accept the result' you do rather wonder what he has in mind for the coming week's training. Try not accepting it because it isn't good enough! When he says 'we need the midfield to be more creative' either change the personnel or the approach. We must have had a different approach when Benteke scored fifteen in a season. If we are 'stuck with him' then at least let's play him. He can't score goals sitting on the bench. That's not easy to do when you have the choices we have. Not one midfield player is able to move the ball forward quickly or travel with the ball at pace with the exception of Schlupp who is limited in other areas of his game. There's a large group at work who support many different clubs. When the discussion turns to us the general tone is that our squad is old and sh1t apart from Zaha.

Rachid Rachid Rachid

28 Nov 20 3.46pm

Originally posted by Elwissthebest

The stats don't lie. Palace without Zaha is unlikely to win. The issue is why we have become a team so reliant on one player. It's not obvious that Zaha would walk into the starting XI of any Premiership top six club, but if his heart's not in it any more at Palace, then plan for life without him.
Seven seasons in the Premiership and all the money that has brought in should mean that we can do better than lose to teams as mediocre as Burnley and Newcastle. Why can't we be as good as Southampton? The South London hinterland must be as if not more productive than the south coast.
No doubt more money could and should have been put in. It's always easy to spend someone else's money. Watching turgid football might be palatable if the results are there, but in the absence of points and goals, it is just moonshine to say 'everything will be alright'. When a manager says he is 'obliged to accept the result' you do rather wonder what he has in mind for the coming week's training. Try not accepting it because it isn't good enough! When he says 'we need the midfield to be more creative' either change the personnel or the approach. We must have had a different approach when Benteke scored fifteen in a season. If we are 'stuck with him' then at least let's play him. He can't score goals sitting on the bench.

That's not easy to do when you have the choices we have.
Not one midfield player is able to move the ball forward quickly or travel with the ball at pace with the exception of Schlupp who is limited in other areas of his game.

There's a large group at work who support many different clubs. When the discussion turns to us the general tone is that our squad is old and sh1t apart from Zaha.

HesHereHesThere Beckenham 28 Nov 20 4.45pm
I thought we’d beat Burnley and Newcastle and after those two performances WBA is a must win as I don’t see us getting anything from the five fixtures after that. Have a feeling Roy and Ray might be gone by January.

HesHereHesThere

Beckenham 28 Nov 20 4.45pm

I thought we’d beat Burnley and Newcastle and after those two performances WBA is a must win as I don’t see us getting anything from the five fixtures after that. Have a feeling Roy and Ray might be gone by January.

gosling1956 stanford le hope 28 Nov 20 4.58pm
Must be in our DNA we always seem to disappoint against teams we expect to do well against and pull the odd rabbit from the hat from games we don't expect anything very frustrating

gosling1956

stanford le hope 28 Nov 20 4.58pm

Must be in our DNA we always seem to disappoint against teams we expect to do well against and pull the odd rabbit from the hat from games we don't expect anything very frustrating

EddieMac 28 Nov 20 5.01pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid That's not easy to do when you have the choices we have. Not one midfield player is able to move the ball forward quickly or travel with the ball at pace with the exception of Schlupp who is limited in other areas of his game. There's a large group at work who support many different clubs. When the discussion turns to us the general tone is that our squad is old and sh1t apart from Zaha. This in my view is one of our main issues at the moment. The speed at which we attack is frighteningly slow. The problem is now down to Roy to figure out. We have almost all our players fit so their are no excuses. We need to get Eze into a more central position. Dann should have been dropped last night with Kouyate kept at centre back, his pace has been a major asset for us all season at the back.

EddieMac

28 Nov 20 5.01pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

That's not easy to do when you have the choices we have.
Not one midfield player is able to move the ball forward quickly or travel with the ball at pace with the exception of Schlupp who is limited in other areas of his game.

There's a large group at work who support many different clubs. When the discussion turns to us the general tone is that our squad is old and sh1t apart from Zaha.

This in my view is one of our main issues at the moment. The speed at which we attack is frighteningly slow. The problem is now down to Roy to figure out. We have almost all our players fit so their are no excuses. We need to get Eze into a more central position.

Dann should have been dropped last night with Kouyate kept at centre back, his pace has been a major asset for us all season at the back.

EddieMac 28 Nov 20 5.02pm
Originally posted by gosling1956 Must be in our DNA we always seem to disappoint against teams we expect to do well against and pull the odd rabbit from the hat from games we don't expect anything very frustrating I don’t think the performances were as bad as people are making out. They were both awful games to watch but we could have easily won both.

EddieMac

28 Nov 20 5.02pm

Originally posted by gosling1956

Must be in our DNA we always seem to disappoint against teams we expect to do well against and pull the odd rabbit from the hat from games we don't expect anything very frustrating

I don’t think the performances were as bad as people are making out. They were both awful games to watch but we could have easily won both.

MonsterMunch Cambridge 28 Nov 20 5.16pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Without Zaha we are the sinking Titanic, with him we go up and down the waves without really going anywhere, he really should've been sold long before that 0-0 opening game against Everton when he started his pissed off last season tantrum, he needs to go because we are never going to improve the quality we need so desperately throughout our squad, relying on him results in our whole set up ..relying on him. How odd. Roy in and Wilf out? Interesting logic. I know what one gives us the best chance of staying up.

MonsterMunch

Cambridge 28 Nov 20 5.16pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Without Zaha we are the sinking Titanic, with him we go up and down the waves without really going anywhere, he really should've been sold long before that 0-0 opening game against Everton when he started his pissed off last season tantrum, he needs to go because we are never going to improve the quality we need so desperately throughout our squad, relying on him results in our whole set up ..relying on him.

How odd. Roy in and Wilf out?

Interesting logic. I know what one gives us the best chance of staying up.

ex hibitionist Hastings 28 Nov 20 6.33pm
Is Roy becoming the English version of Claude Puel?

ex hibitionist

Hastings 28 Nov 20 6.33pm

Is Roy becoming the English version of Claude Puel?

Eaglehamster Storrington 28 Nov 20 6.46pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Without Zaha we are the sinking Titanic, with him we go up and down the waves without really going anywhere, he really should've been sold long before that 0-0 opening game against Everton when he started his pissed off last season tantrum, he needs to go because we are never going to improve the quality we need so desperately throughout our squad, relying on him results in our whole set up ..relying on him. I fail to see your logic. We're hopeless without him yet it's his fault we're crap. I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Eaglehamster

Storrington 28 Nov 20 6.46pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

I fail to see your logic. We're hopeless without him yet it's his fault we're crap.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Tickled pink Cornwall 28 Nov 20 7.38pm
Originally posted by Eaglehamster I fail to see your logic. We're hopeless without him yet it's his fault we're crap. Why can you not understand that.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 28 Nov 20 7.38pm

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

I fail to see your logic. We're hopeless without him yet it's his fault we're crap.

Why can you not understand that.

Tickled pink Cornwall 28 Nov 20 7.39pm
Originally posted by MonsterMunch How odd. Roy in and Wilf out? Interesting logic. I know what one gives us the best chance of staying up. You understand fully what I mean.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 28 Nov 20 7.39pm

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

How odd. Roy in and Wilf out?

Interesting logic. I know what one gives us the best chance of staying up.

You understand fully what I mean.

Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 28 Nov 20 7.40pm
2 dire performances in a week against 2 very poor teams. Nothing positive I can say unfortunately. We don’t look like scoring and defensively we always look like we have a mistake in us.

Bexley Eagle

Bexley Kent 28 Nov 20 7.40pm

2 dire performances in a week against 2 very poor teams. Nothing positive I can say unfortunately. We don’t look like scoring and defensively we always look like we have a mistake in us.

hcjbrooks 28 Nov 20 7.55pm
Bottom line Hodgson is a dinosaur .He was brought in to bring in stability after De Boers sacking This season he is proving even more rigid in his thinking and his team is overloaded with ageing players whose talents are on the wain Parish needs to get his cheque out in January ,offload Wickham Meyer at the very least and seek out replacements for Hodgson and Lexington for next season and our talisman Zaha who will surely leave the club

hcjbrooks

28 Nov 20 7.55pm

Bottom line Hodgson is a dinosaur .He was brought in to bring in stability after De Boers sacking This season he is proving even more rigid in his thinking and his team is overloaded with ageing players whose talents are on the wain Parish needs to get his cheque out in January ,offload Wickham Meyer at the very least and seek out replacements for Hodgson and Lexington for next season and our talisman Zaha who will surely leave the club

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Nov 20 7.59pm
Survival this season under Hodgson and he might well be at the club next season if he wishes to continue. Survival under him will mean that he will have kept the club in the hallowed land of the PL for 4 seasons on a relative 'Shoestring' with an ageing squad.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Nov 20 7.59pm

Survival this season under Hodgson and he might well be at the club next season if he wishes to continue.
Survival under him will mean that he will have kept the club in the hallowed land of the PL for 4 seasons on a relative 'Shoestring' with an ageing squad.

southnorwoodhill 28 Nov 20 8.10pm
Originally posted by Willo Survival this season under Hodgson and he might well be at the club next season if he wishes to continue. Survival under him will mean that he will have kept the club in the hallowed land of the PL for 4 seasons on a relative 'Shoestring' with an ageing squad. I doubt it. Many players will be out of contract so there'll be all that to deal with. Many are now to old to play at the level of intensity that the Prem brings so it's likely a few will be released. A rebuilding job will require a new manager, I don't think RH has acquitted himself well when it has come to blending youth with experience, he has his favourites come what may - how else would Schlupp end up as centre forward? It's a new chapter and time to move on.

southnorwoodhill

28 Nov 20 8.10pm

Originally posted by Willo

Survival this season under Hodgson and he might well be at the club next season if he wishes to continue.
Survival under him will mean that he will have kept the club in the hallowed land of the PL for 4 seasons on a relative 'Shoestring' with an ageing squad.

I doubt it. Many players will be out of contract so there'll be all that to deal with. Many are now to old to play at the level of intensity that the Prem brings so it's likely a few will be released. A rebuilding job will require a new manager, I don't think RH has acquitted himself well when it has come to blending youth with experience, he has his favourites come what may - how else would Schlupp end up as centre forward? It's a new chapter and time to move on.

Swindy Bromley 28 Nov 20 8.37pm
There must be a coach out there who can get far better out of the attacking players we have !! Roy did a magnificent job in that first season after a start of P7 L7 but our team seems completely unable to progress and he never has a plan B. Leeds was clearly a flash in the pan and 1 goal and 1 point v bha, Burnley & Newcastle is embarassing. Please god not Steven Gerrard !! Why ? managing in a country with the competition of just 1 other team and having probably won the championship by Christmas by beating that 1 team once ? I think a 5 year old could probably manage that. The cupboard outside those in jobs sadly is bare, Dyche might be an improvement.

Swindy

Bromley 28 Nov 20 8.37pm

There must be a coach out there who can get far better out of the attacking players we have !! Roy did a magnificent job in that first season after a start of P7 L7 but our team seems completely unable to progress and he never has a plan B. Leeds was clearly a flash in the pan and 1 goal and 1 point v bha, Burnley & Newcastle is embarassing.
Please god not Steven Gerrard !! Why ? managing in a country with the competition of just 1 other team and having probably won the championship by Christmas by beating that 1 team once ? I think a 5 year old could probably manage that.
The cupboard outside those in jobs sadly is bare, Dyche might be an improvement.

Eaglehamster Storrington 28 Nov 20 9.10pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Why can you not understand that. You're blaming our best player (even if he does want to go). Frankly with the tactics foisted on him, who can blame him? I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Eaglehamster

Storrington 28 Nov 20 9.10pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Why can you not understand that.

You're blaming our best player (even if he does want to go).

Frankly with the tactics foisted on him, who can blame him?

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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