Can we see the article for what it is. Reporter from the Daily Mail obviously supporting the out campaign finds a school where the kids are from eu migrant countries including from the roma (traveller or gypsy) community which has further negative connotations. No Scottish (or even british) kids are at the school which as a public service is being funded by you the reader (mainly white British).
Absolute despicable journalism, where kids (who dont speak english yet) are being used to inflame and scare people in much the same way as Goebells did with the jews and indeed roma community, the negative connotation that these were an underclass of people (untermenschen) who posed a threat to the superior Germanic race. My dentist is from Slovakia and i am sure some of these kids parents are also hard working contributors to society. We wouldnt like it if the british communities in Spain and France where the kids all speak English were castigated in such a derogatery way that implied the english were inferior hooligan types who burgle and steal. Lastly the Daily Mail is owned by Lord Rothermere who, despite having the 2nd largest circulation in the uk doesnt pay uk tax (he claims non dom and has his companies set up in tax friendly jurisdictions) but yet still implies in his inflammatory rags that its migrants who are taking advantage of the system.....be careful what you believe

Let me start again then by providing an alternative source and my own take on the figures.

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I'm not concerned with any anecdotes or stereotypes of Slovaks or Roma. The fact remains that they were free to just walk in from the EU and regardless of Slovakia's relative prosperity, unless your dentist is Glaswegian that's still akin to giving a school to a lesser country. The Guardian will no doubt suggest that we could close tax loopholes and afford to look after everyone however a) most would still rather see British causes given priority and b) this is a thread about the EU. Unless providing opportunities and welfare for the union's poorest states is one of your reasons for us to remain in.

Edited by johnfirewall (02 May 2016 9.02pm)

If you stop to think about it for a moment, you say we are giving a school to a lesser country....which in itself is derogatory and negative.

You're voting 'In' for the benefits of have having as many workers as possible are you?

Edited by johnfirewall (03 May 2016 9.09am)

Now you're rewriting history...again.

I said I was disappointed with some of your responses, when you thought I might have been offended by them, which I wasn't.

I took this opportunity to highlight your hypocrisy by accusing another poster of being derogatory and negative when you were guilty of that yourself.

It's better for debate if we don't use terms like racist nazi or similar terms to describe posters who are merely giving opinions or describing experiences they have had in the main. For example I could write an essay about having an illegal traveller/gipsy camp just 400 yards from my front door (sited next to a primary school and in the picturesque Frome Vale) but you would probably accuse me of being racist if I did, like Bristol City council tried to do when I led a local campaign to stop the council making it legal and permanent!

State your facts and point out anomalies by all means Johnny, but random accusations and personal remarks are irrelevant to most adult debates.

I can only speak as I find Johnny.

My experience of the pakistani community around here is not a generalisation.

I was on the committee of Stapleton FC , a local footy team that plays in the park behind my house. Despite many attempts to recruit local boys and girls to join our team, none have come forward from that sector, whereas we have had success with all other groups.

Fair enough you might say, but we then had to deal with a complaint from them about our team "commandeering" the park on Saturday afternoons, when we are playing, even though we encourage anyone to support us and join us after in the community club. Out of spite they then tried to book the whole of the park during the summer for their own exclusive use during some religious festival they had (Ramadan?) and when that was refused, held it anyway and were quite hostile to dog walkers, ramblers and mothers/children entering the park that day if they weren't pakistani.

Does relaying my experience of dealing with them and finding them to be insular and disruptive make me racist?

Ultimately, the Referendum is futile, because we're arguing over whether the UK remains in or leaves the EU, rather than what we want to come out of remaining or leaving the EU.

The reality I suspect is that if we leave, nothing will change, and it will be business pretty much as usual, with government pretty much remaining more or less in the EU under a different name. And if we remain, the EU will remain largely unchanged.

After all if the Conservative leave the EU, will they really change a migration policy that suits government revenue generation and corporate profits; even if its detrimental to British citizens interests? I doubt it.

Either way, it'll be more of the same, and like the Voting referendum, we've been sold a 'status quo' choice wrapped up as 'more of the same under a different name' or 'more of the same'.

If you stop to think about it for a moment, you say we are giving a school to a lesser country....which in itself is derogatory and negative. So how much does this school cost to run each year, say 500k for a smallish school. Where is the money spent. About 85-90% goes on wages to teaching staff, administrators, pensions, maintenance (plumbers, sparx etc) and 10-15% for the kids (whose parents may well be tax contributors) goes on books, school meals, heating etc, of which they pay probably British tax payers to prepare the school meals. british bookshops etc. All of these teachers, plumbers, sparx dinner ladies pay UK taxes, buy british goods (VAT etc). Who are the winners?...The British....I don't see any benefit directly going back to Slovakia or the Roma (unless the choose to send money home but what responsible adult doesn't want to look after their parents) and we could be educating the next generation of doctors for the NHS who may one day save our lives.
Even in this inflammatory, untypical and clearly biased article I can see clear benefits to the UK economy.