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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Like the remain campaign those predictions are probably exaggerations. I always expected a hit...but around ten years after leaving we will be better than now.....which is better than most EU countries. Those who state that the UK won't reduce immigration are also talking BS. This country does not need an increase of 300, 000 people a year. The damage that people like you with your ignorant politics have done has been considerable. We have a country over-flowing with people with not the infrastructure for them. These were political decisions....at a time where 1.8 trillion in debt with an interest payment on our debt levels far in excess of our defence budget. Hold on. I'm left of centre. The Right will have been in power 70% of the time by Brexit since 1979 and it was The Right that signed all the significant Euro treaties. You need to look at your side for what you abhor in this country. They are the ones that made the decisions for it to come to this. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Jun 2017 7.33pm)
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Hold on. I'm left of centre. The Right will have been in power 70% of the time by Brexit since 1979 and it was The Right that signed all the significant Euro treaties. You need to look at your side for what you abhor in this country. They are the ones that made the decisions for it to come to this. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Jun 2017 7.33pm) UK population increased by 500k last year. Who was running the country?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I've got an issue with this 'the left want unlimited immigration ' line being trotted out. What is it based on exactly? The Labour Manifesto mentioned managed migration. That seems polar to unfettered. Are we talking about failed socialist economics in countries that have been crippled by sanctions or subject to externally driven coups. Or perhaps you are confusing Labour's social democracy outlook (which is successful in many places) with bulls*** in the media that has seeped osmosis like into yer noggin. I expect Labour are hoping all the new migrants will vote for them like they already do in London. If it wasn't for immigrants,the Welsh and some dozy students, you would be non existent.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
UK population increased by 500k last year. Who was running the country? The EU?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The EU? ha ha touche. Doesn't explain the non-EU migrants/refugees though, does it?
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Originally posted by Kermit8
ha ha touche. Doesn't explain the non-EU migrants/refugees though, does it? No, but it is still half. I would be the first to admit that the Tories need to do more to reduce non EU migration but new measures now might show themselves in a year.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I expect Labour are hoping all the new migrants will vote for them like they already do in London. If it wasn't for immigrants,the Welsh and some dozy students, you would be non existent. Keep going, your ridiculousness is highly entertaining. This next bit is to mock the sort of comments I've come to expect from an H so don't take it seriously
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No, but it is still half. I would be the first to admit that the Tories need to do more to reduce non EU migration but new measures now might show themselves in a year. Don't count on it. There will be loads of P@kistani plumbers coming over now to fill the gap left by the Polish.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
ha ha touche. Doesn't explain the non-EU migrants/refugees though, does it? Or the estimated 800,000 illegal immigrants presently resideing here. If only the French did more to stop them
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Meanwhile, from the CBI....
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Keep going, your ridiculousness is highly entertaining. This next bit is to mock the sort of comments I've come to expect from an H so don't take it seriously You should be carded for that.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
See that? That's you, that is. Watch the non-EU immigration hit over 200,000 in a few years. All the extra muslims, other Asians and Africans who will now be able to come to the UK to fill in those gaps left by Europeans want to say in advance 'thank you' to all who voted Leave. Surely you would view that as a highly positive thing?
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Don't count on it. There will be loads of P@kistani plumbers coming over now to fill the gap left by the Polish. Do they have plumbing in pakistan?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Keep going, your ridiculousness is highly entertaining. This next bit is to mock the sort of comments I've come to expect from an H so don't take it seriously Really Nick? That was a highly distasteful remark. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Jun 2017 8.23pm)
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Don't count on it. There will be loads of P@kistani plumbers coming over now to fill the gap left by the Polish. I have no desire to see any Poles go home, but I can see the folly of not reducing all immigration sharpish.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Don't count on it. There will be loads of P@kistani plumbers coming over now to fill the gap left by the Polish. No, they may well still be Polish but will be subject to visa restrictions like any other immigrant. What is it that makes people think that the UK and Europe (as opposed to the EU) will just turn their backs on each other after Brexit?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Really Nick? That was a highly distasteful remark. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Jun 2017 8.23pm) So is saying someone supports Stalin and all those deaths he was responsible for. That's why I added the caveat to show how facile such comments are.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
You should be carded for that. It is funny and slightly ironic when the Wolfie Smith of HOL says something like that.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
So is saying someone supports Stalin and all those deaths he was responsible for. That's why I added the caveat to show how facile such comments are.
You go too far. Did you have one too may at a strategy meeting?
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