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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
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This argument about office worker v manual worker is as relevant as old v young or men v women. The fact is we need all types of workers.
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Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.09am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
You should have been here when the Posties were protesting being forced to work additional hours after doing their deliveries, or the fireman strikes over extended hours. A lot of 'how easy they have it' rhetoric was bouncing around here.
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 13 Oct 2015 10.13am
This argument about office worker v manual worker is as relevant as old v young or men v women. The fact is we need all types of workers. Still not the point I was making, I agree both forms of work are essential.
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Quote npn at 13 Oct 2015 10.12am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
Funny enough I do occasionally like a hard days physical graft, I find it very fulfilling to have to take nothing home with me, but its f**king knackering. But that wasn't really the point I was making either.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.25am
Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.09am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
You should have been here when the Posties were protesting being forced to work additional hours after doing their deliveries, or the fireman strikes over extended hours. A lot of 'how easy they have it' rhetoric was bouncing around here.
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Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.31am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.25am
Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.09am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
You should have been here when the Posties were protesting being forced to work additional hours after doing their deliveries, or the fireman strikes over extended hours. A lot of 'how easy they have it' rhetoric was bouncing around here.
Only if you misread what I said, it was aimed at those who consider they work hard, but dismiss that done by others in more physically demanding roles.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 11.12am
Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.31am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.25am
Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.09am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
You should have been here when the Posties were protesting being forced to work additional hours after doing their deliveries, or the fireman strikes over extended hours. A lot of 'how easy they have it' rhetoric was bouncing around here.
Only if you misread what I said, it was aimed at those who consider they work hard, but dismiss that done by others in more physically demanding roles.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 11.12am
Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.31am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.25am
Quote chris123 at 13 Oct 2015 10.09am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Oct 2015 10.02am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Oct 2015 8.02pm
This thread has so many generalisations that I don't know where to start. OK let's try. Demonstration does not = moral high ground. Manual work cannot be equated with administration or management although both are equally important. Do we want the world run by white van man ? Corbyn's appeal to his targeted audience is so cynical it makes me chuck. It wasn't about pay, or what was better, but how people in office based jobs have a nasty tendency to view anyone who may work a labour job as lazy for only working shorter shifts etc. Having done both, I can highly recommend office work for less exhausting, but it can be more stressful I guess (its hard to be stressed about your job when you spent six hours shifting 25kg loads into a hopper).
You should have been here when the Posties were protesting being forced to work additional hours after doing their deliveries, or the fireman strikes over extended hours. A lot of 'how easy they have it' rhetoric was bouncing around here.
Only if you misread what I said, it was aimed at those who consider they work hard, but dismiss that done by others in more physically demanding roles. Not sure I know anyone who thinks that way. Short hours are common in the building trade I suppose and many of us have had builders in who go home at 3pm but that is one of the few perks of having to do a repetitive, grueling job. I wouldn't hold it against them. I do have a problem with the ridiculous prices they charge, I would hold that against them.
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This is one of the best countries in the world. Got a pakistani friend, born in Guildford, has a great career, nice house, wife n kids the whole lot. Goes to pakistan once a year. Moans how corrupt it is, how squalid it is, how his family treat him as a cash cow. pakistan vs England in the cricket, he supports pakistan... the country he doesn't like, and has given him nothing.
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