Think everyone here agrees they are victims.

I think the reason they aren't made more of a public display of in the same way as celebrities as people in general are more interested in celebrities simply because they have heard of them, have memories of them and have grown up with them or been in their front rooms by way of tv and or radio so they feel they know them more personally than a load of random blokes in rotherham.

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

I think the fact that they weren't really very random is more the reason.

And Muslims are just five percent of the population.

What is more important than the religion or race of the abusers is the attitude and reactions of the institutions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Mar 2017 5.43pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Have to point out that they have not been sent to prison yet, they have only been charged with these crimes. But I expect it will turn out to be a fair cop.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

None have been found guilty yet?

I am pretty confident none of the victims will be of Asian decent, they never are. These men know it is not accepted in their society to defile Asian girls, but a blind eye is turned if they are white girls.

Undoubtedly half of them will be found not guilty, by some smart arse lawyer. All very depressing.

These are terrible crimes and I understand the emotive reactions they promote.

However, I have a problem when those who do not murder gain the same punishment as those who do murder.

The criminal justice system must give out the message that the intentional taking of life stands above the abusing of one.

Whatever the punishment afforded if even one sick b****** realises that to murder will be worse for him than to let live then it would have been worth it.

That's the last I want to think about this.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I won't invite you to read the Jay report then. I did. I'm not ashamed to say I cried reading it. Beyond horrific.

Kind of why I get incensed by those on here that seek to brush it under the carpet, or invoke "Hur-de-hur, but Saville*! He wuz white, amirite?"

As per the "other thread" at the moment: this is now endemic to the UK, it is now a part of a 5th-column sub-culture. The genie is truly out of the bottle.

*Replace with McVeigh or equivalent. What a s***e argument.

It is disproportionately higher

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

Absolutely.... no local anaesthetic and shout out "Alan's Snackbar" before slicing their bollocks off with a rusty spoon.

I think there is truth to this.

The troublesome 'young white girls' being targeted and taken advantage of by predominantly pakistani gangs is a truthful analysis of these crimes.

For me I want to say that I don't think this reflects upon the vast majority of people from Asia who aren't criminals or sickos. This doesn't mean however that the racial aspects of these crimes should be ignored or covered up however.....and this was exactly what happened.

That for me, is where the recriminations should be based....upon the 'safety conscious' politically correct culture that liberalized left wing philosophy was forced into our institutions. It's in the type of manager that gets promoted, the targets that get introduced.

These crimes continued for so long precisely for that reason.....and it should be continually called out until something is done about it.

I don't want a friendly publicly aware Police force or social care service. I want a force or service that applies the law without fear or favour....Not one that worries about what left wing politicians or what media activists think.

These crimes show that this is precisely what we don't have.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)