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chateauferret Flag 12 Apr 17 4.45pm

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Originally posted by Bangell

Don't take it personally - 'Willo: Troll or Fool' is into its 95th series and it's getting tedious now. Got to freshen things up.

I think that one's been settled.

 


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baldeagle73 Flag Leamington spa 12 Apr 17 4.56pm

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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

The new Dave Madden?

Steady on mate madden was the king did you see the Ian Wright rocasstle documentary on bt last week when Wright said about pemberton shaving maddens eyebrows when he was asleep

 


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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 12 Apr 17 4.58pm

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Originally posted by mattteo

I've given my opinion on 500+ football players over the past years and I've been right in more than 480 times. If I've made a mistake about Gabbiadini it remains to be seen. Time will tell. He's had an amazing start to his English career, no question about it, but my concerns were of the long run. I knew he also had the numbers in Italy (a lot of goals and assists in few minutes of playing time), but he seemed like a player who doesn't run. Maybe he was just upset and not in the mood in the times I saw him play in Italy. But usually, the players who don't put effort in 1 match, don't put effort in any match. If I was wrong about Gabbiadini, so be it. Nobody is perfect. Like I've told you, I'm usually right. We'll see how Gabbiadini does in the long term. I am still concerned with his overall game. Messi also has the numbers at Barca, but his overall contribution is lacking and you can see this in away matches. Is it worth it? For Messi, perhaps. For Gabbiadini? We'll see.

Also take into consideration that I said Gabbiadini was not good enough AT THE 17 MILLION they paid. For now, it seems that he was worth it. But please keep in mind I didn't say he's a bad player and if he had been bought for less than 5 million I would have considered it a good acquisition. So if I'm wrong about him, it's just because I wouldn't have spent that much money on an Italian player.

I'm only judging players at a certain value. Like someone said on the previous page, I'd prefer Mbemba over Sakho. Yes, I''d prefer 5 million Mbemba over 20-30 million Sakho. I feel that he can provide pretty much the same thing without throwing away the rest 15-25 million, so that that money s better used somewhere else. No doubt Sakho is a player with better contributions in the last year and this makes him a better player than Mbemba or Zambrano or Kabasele or Papadopoulous or others I've mentioned, but I'm not comparing them at the same price.

Why are you trying to turn the topic on to the value of Sakho. Other threads for that. This thread is clearly about Milo, who has clearly been a success?

 

spartakev2 Flag Anerley 12 Apr 17 5.04pm

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Originally posted by mattteo

I've given my opinion on 500+ football players over the past years and I've been right in more than 480 times. If I've made a mistake about Gabbiadini it remains to be seen. Time will tell. He's had an amazing start to his English career, no question about it, but my concerns were of the long run. I knew he also had the numbers in Italy (a lot of goals and assists in few minutes of playing time), but he seemed like a player who doesn't run. Maybe he was just upset and not in the mood in the times I saw him play in Italy. But usually, the players who don't put effort in 1 match, don't put effort in any match. If I was wrong about Gabbiadini, so be it. Nobody is perfect. Like I've told you, I'm usually right. We'll see how Gabbiadini does in the long term. I am still concerned with his overall game. Messi also has the numbers at Barca, but his overall contribution is lacking and you can see this in away matches. Is it worth it? For Messi, perhaps. For Gabbiadini? We'll see.

Also take into consideration that I said Gabbiadini was not good enough AT THE 17 MILLION they paid. For now, it seems that he was worth it. But please keep in mind I didn't say he's a bad player and if he had been bought for less than 5 million I would have considered it a good acquisition. So if I'm wrong about him, it's just because I wouldn't have spent that much money on an Italian player.

I'm only judging players at a certain value. Like someone said on the previous page, I'd prefer Mbemba over Sakho. Yes, I''d prefer 5 million Mbemba over 20-30 million Sakho. I feel that he can provide pretty much the same thing without throwing away the rest 15-25 million, so that that money s better used somewhere else. No doubt Sakho is a player with better contributions in the last year and this makes him a better player than Mbemba or Zambrano or Kabasele or Papadopoulous or others I've mentioned, but I'm not comparing them at the same price.

Perhaps?? Ha ha, you do make me laugh.

 

mattteo Flag 12 Apr 17 5.09pm

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Originally posted by spartakev2

Perhaps?? Ha ha, you do make me laugh.


Yes, perhaps. He's really poor defending. He leaves his flank to walk in the center> flank exposed> Juve goes up, takes players who come to intercept out of position> change direction on the right> bam, goal for Juventus.

Sure, it was the defense's fault....................
but nobody wants to say truthfully who doesn't do his job in the team

 

Holmesdale 1989 Flag 12 Apr 17 5.17pm

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Top, top player.

What did he cost us?

 

curlyeagle Flag crowborough 12 Apr 17 6.05pm

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We are all entitled to our opinion and mine is that Luka is and will become a magnificent signing. Exactly the kind of player Pardew clearly failed to see we needed at the start of the season.

 


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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 12 Apr 17 6.50pm

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Originally posted by mattteo


Yes, perhaps. He's really poor defending. He leaves his flank to walk in the center> flank exposed> Juve goes up, takes players who come to intercept out of position> change direction on the right> bam, goal for Juventus.

Sure, it was the defense's fault....................
but nobody wants to say truthfully who doesn't do his job in the team

His job is scoring goals and he's one of thd best players in the world at doing it. And you're criticising him for his defending?

 

coulsdoneagle Flag London 12 Apr 17 7.25pm

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Originally posted by mattteo


Yes, perhaps. He's really poor defending. He leaves his flank to walk in the center> flank exposed> Juve goes up, takes players who come to intercept out of position> change direction on the right> bam, goal for Juventus.

Sure, it was the defense's fault....................
but nobody wants to say truthfully who doesn't do his job in the team

I have actually heard it all now, Messi is overrated according to Mattteo hahaha

 

uncleneal Flag Croydon 12 Apr 17 7.52pm

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Back to Luka............

I actually think he has been the main reason for our change in form although love Sakho as well. Clearly it also needed a hugely experienced BFS to realise we might need someone with a left foot to play LB.

With regard to Luka, he looks a class act in the DM role which NO-ONE has done successfully this season.

Football is all about opinion but bl00dy Hell, the OP looks like he needs a top-up to his medication.

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 12 Apr 17 7.55pm

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Originally posted by uncleneal

Back to Luka............

I actually think he has been the main reason for our change in form although love Sakho as well. Clearly it also needed a hugely experienced BFS to realise we might need someone with a left foot to play LB.

With regard to Luka, he looks a class act in the DM role which NO-ONE has done successfully this season.

Football is all about opinion but bl00dy Hell, the OP looks like he needs a top-up to his medication.

Sakho has sorted the defence. Luka has sorted the midfield. That's all anyone needs to know.

 


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stayingup2017 Flag 12 Apr 17 7.57pm

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I flicked through our home results for this season and last , didn't realise how appalling we had been at home for such a long time. maybe the opening poster thinks that it a coincidence that we have now won 3 hone games in a row with clean sheets with a new defence in place. he is probably still a Pardew fan and thinks that we would of achieved that anyway

 

Diagonal Flag 12 Apr 17 8.18pm

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Originally posted by mattteo

Meh......I don't see anything special.

He still can prove himself though, just don't feel like he has yet.

The team could have played just as well with anyone there instead of Milivojevic. Yes, you could argue that since he arrived the result have gotten better. But I think that's because of other factors: the team finally playing with a left footed leftback (PVA or Schlupp), Townsend and Zaha playing on the right sides, Cabaye and Puncheon doing a lot of pressing.....

Milivojevic is highly rated by many of you, but let's just give him a full season before we make an ultimate judgement. Same thing with Sakho, please don't argue to spend 20 million+ on him just based on 10 matches.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

 


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mattteo Flag 12 Apr 17 8.20pm

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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

I have actually heard it all now, Messi is overrated according to Mattteo hahaha


I'm just saying he doesn't still do the same pressing that got him to be the best player in the world 7-8 years ago.
He doesn't even work as hard as 2-3 years ago.

Are you saying he's flawless? To be the best in the world you need to do more than just score. He used to be, but not anymore

 

mattteo Flag 12 Apr 17 8.21pm

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Originally posted by Diagonal

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.


Ok. Clearly, someone like Carrick, Busquets and Milivojevic is the epitome of success in a team and I can't see it

 

chateauferret Flag 12 Apr 17 8.28pm

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Originally posted by mattteo


Ok. Clearly, someone like Carrick, Busquets and Milivojevic is the epitome of success in a team and I can't see it

Well you said we could have played as well with anyone there. So you'd be happy to dtop Milivojevic for say Ledley or Lee? Ooh! Ooh! Mutch?

Bollocks.

 


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mattteo Flag 12 Apr 17 8.34pm

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Originally posted by chateauferret

Well you said we could have played as well with anyone there. So you'd be happy to dtop Milivojevic for say Ledley or Lee? Ooh! Ooh! Mutch?

Bollocks.


Is this a fair question?
Since you'll just bash anything I say, I should just avoid it. Everyone will say it's bollocks anyway

 

chateauferret Flag 12 Apr 17 8.42pm

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Originally posted by mattteo


Is this a fair question?
Since you'll just bash anything I say, I should just avoid it. Everyone will say it's bollocks anyway

If you had said we might play as well with *someone* else there you might have made a sensible argument, but it's clear from everything else you said that you thought Milivojevic hasn't shown exceptional talent. And that, Sir, is bollocks.

And we don't have a full season to decide if he's up to snuff - the fat lady sings in six weeks or so.

Edited by chateauferret (12 Apr 2017 8.43pm)

 


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Casual Flag Orpington 12 Apr 17 8.48pm

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I think he's been great. Wins the ball tackle/interception lays it off and gets back into position.
Like Sakho has made Tomkins 20% better, because he trusts Sakho.
Luka has done the same for Cabaye.

 

MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 12 Apr 17 8.48pm

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Originally posted by mattteo


Ok. Clearly, someone like Carrick, Busquets and Milivojevic is the epitome of success in a team and I can't see it

I am surprised you cannot see what Luka brings, although it is not spectacular it is very evident what he is doing and bringing to the team.
We are not talking about the type of player like David Wright who some people thought was doing something but when studied did not really do anything (apart from one game), Luka does it all quietly and efficiently and you do not have to look too hard to see it.


 

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