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Originally posted by daven
To turn this on its head, if we get 4 or 5 new players, who out of our 25 man squad would we get rid of. We don't have a genuine 25 man first team squad as the last one had a couple of extra goalkeepers from the development squad added just to make up the numbers
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Is it public knowledge what he is on in his new deal? Surely he is on (far) less now? Originally posted by cryrst
I wouldn't mind those wages for him.
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Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
Is it public knowledge what he is on in his new deal? Surely he is on (far) less now? Oh man, they actually did it? They actually offered Benteke a new contract? I missed that.
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
We don't have a genuine 25 man first team squad as the last one had a couple of extra goalkeepers from the development squad added just to make up the numbers Just checked,I counted 25 players, including 3 keepers Guaita, Henderson and Hennessey.
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Originally posted by daven
To turn this on its head, if we get 4 or 5 new players, who out of our 25 man squad would we get rid of. Well, if a decent right back comes in, then Kelly could take his place as central ddfenders (cause he's not a right back)n so there will be Tomkins, Cahill, Sako and Kelly. Dann could go. His contract is up in the summer and he earns a lot too. Did his job at the club, but I see him going to the Championship this winter. I'd find clubs for Riedewald and Wickham to gain playing time and get back in shape and maybe even get some money out of them eventually (Riedewald alone cost like 9 million). PVA and Schlupp are more than enough for left back position. Riedewald could get playing time at Alkmaar, Vutesse or Feyenoord, while Wickham could go somewhere like Wigan, Lutton Town or Milwall. I'd ditch James McCarthy too. Lousy transfer by the club. There are already 4 central midfielders: Luka, Kouyate, McArthur and Camarasa and I hate that Kouyate and Luka always play together (they're the same position, Roy!!) Not sure if Camarasa stays either. He's on loan with a 15 million option and it's 90% sure that it won't be activated. And if some offers for Benteke and even Townsend or Meyer could bring the club 10-15 million, then they'd open up places too. It's not like they do incredibly well. So plenty of spaces could be cleared, I named about 8.
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Originally posted by daven
The difficulty is that players on big money will be difficult to get rid of, and the same with players not getting minutes/ not in form. I'd like Batshuayi.
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Originally posted by daven
Just checked,I counted 25 players, including 3 keepers Guaita, Henderson and Hennessey. It includes 5 keepers as you missed out Joe Tupper and Dion-Curtis Henry who were added to the squad to make it up to 25
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Originally posted by HeathMan
The needs are:- Garry Cahill is a great addition - does a job for us now - will not be playing in five years time - encourages developing players in their aims to join the squad and have first team game time. Expect someone around 28/29 or 18/19, positions depend on what Roy hears from club's health experts. Agreed! The priority is to stay up and this will become increasingly difficult with this ageing squad. We need younger players who can improve rather than more players who are past their best and who can only get slower and less effective.
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Originally posted by mattteo
Well, if a decent right back comes in, then Kelly could take his place as central ddfenders (cause he's not a right back)n so there will be Tomkins, Cahill, Sako and Kelly. Dann could go. His contract is up in the summer and he earns a lot too. Did his job at the club, but I see him going to the Championship this winter. I'd find clubs for Riedewald and Wickham to gain playing time and get back in shape and maybe even get some money out of them eventually (Riedewald alone cost like 9 million). PVA and Schlupp are more than enough for left back position. Riedewald could get playing time at Alkmaar, Vutesse or Feyenoord, while Wickham could go somewhere like Wigan, Lutton Town or Milwall. I'd ditch James McCarthy too. Lousy transfer by the club. There are already 4 central midfielders: Luka, Kouyate, McArthur and Camarasa and I hate that Kouyate and Luka always play together (they're the same position, Roy!!) Not sure if Camarasa stays either. He's on loan with a 15 million option and it's 90% sure that it won't be activated. And if some offers for Benteke and even Townsend or Meyer could bring the club 10-15 million, then they'd open up places too. It's not like they do incredibly well. So plenty of spaces could be cleared, I named about 8.
This is a thread about needed players to bolster our squad, not chop the squad more. I realise you're not saying get rid of them all in one window, but to be honest other than Wickham (Camarasa is a loan so doesn't count) I think each of those above will still be needed to play a part in our season. Upgrading the squad is a slow process over a number of windows and that means, these players will be needed for some time still. Swap Wickham for another striker and upgrade Dann in Summer. We need a full back urgently that could ideally player both sides
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Originally posted by mattteo
Of course I'm serious. I would not get rid of those players and have a formation with 7-8 less players. What I mean is that better ones could be brought in their place. For example, what is better,to have Martin Kelly be Ward's backup as right back (a positiom in which he is not very good or fast and where he doesn't move up to cross) and have Scott Dann as 4th center hardly playing ....or.....get a decent right back and move Kelly to 4th center back position (behind Tomkins, Cahill and Sako) and allow Dann to leave to a Championship club where he'd be a starter? With all the respect he deserves, of course, he fully did his duty for the club. Same for Wickham or Benteke or even Townsend- I mean like for like replacement. But better. And sending McCarthy and Riedewald elsewhere on loan allows us to get 2 more attacking players in (by pulling Jimmy Macca and Schlupp to the positions of McCarthy and Riedewald, which are their actual positions for which they trained all their life- central midfielder and left back, not attacking options like Roy uses them). Cause as of now, the attacking options are just about 6: Zaha, Jordan Ayew, Benteke, Townsend, Meyer (more like a central midfielder at Schalke anyway), Schlupp (??), Macca. There should be like 3 strikers, 4 wingers and an attacking midfielder or second striker a lot more offensive than Macca.
We struggle to sign people as it is and now you think we can just let a load of people go and they will be replaced with better players lol The other thing is you clearly don't understand Roy and his style he doesn't want all those attacking players he likes the defensive midfield types. Dann is injured so he wont be leaving. Riedwald looks a better player then Schlupp so why would you loan him out also again you appear to missed out a lot of players are injured so they wont be leaving. If Palace was rich and their was no such thing as FFP then yes we could just go out and replace all these people but even that is risky plus whos to say if they would even be interested in going to Palace.
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Originally posted by mattteo
Oh man, they actually did it? They actually offered Benteke a new contract? I missed that. And Wickham
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Just things I know, Willo. I drink and I know things. And I drink a lot. I have a lot of spare time. To drink. And know things Townsend: Benteke: Tiqunho from Porto: Bounedjah (wanted by Marseille): Edouard from Celtic: Andrasz Sporar to Celtic: Rigoni from Sampdoria: Oudin wanted by PL clubs: And same for the others. I know that Bologna paid 10 million for the youngster Skov Olsen. In the time since hes been there he's been backup for Orsolini (also a good player, but higher than 30 million in price range). Skov Olsen scored in the last 4 months 1 goals in Serie A and 6 goals for Denmark U21 (top goalscorer at U21 level). If they're ot using him as much as Orsolini, I know a 15 million bid would mean instant profit for them and would at least tempt them. Calvin Stengs, the other 20 year old, is at a similar price. These are the highest prices a club like Alkmaar from the Netherlands could demand. I really wish you guys had seen these kids play, they're fantastic. Matheus Pereira will surely be signed by WBA cause the 10 million they have as option to buy is really a small fee for him. Now I don't know if they would agree to sell for just 15 (they'll probably wait for much more from a PL side),but perhaps tempting them with an immediate profit would work. Eintracht Frankfurt were really close tonletting Kamada go for 5 million to Genoa in the summer. They eventually decided to give him a chance of becoming a forst team player at 23 years old and he took it. But his price can't have gone up significantly, so I estimate a bid of around 8 million should do the trick (prices in the Bundesliga are much more grounded for a number of good players). Ryan Christie is doing great but Celtic really undervalued him. They offered him a small contract and now it will be up in 2022. Even if some Celtic pundits would say he's worth 30 million at the way he is playing, I think that Celtic would rather cash in 10-15 million that lose him for free 2 years from now.
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Originally posted by mattteo
Just things I know, Willo. I drink and I know things. And I drink a lot. I have a lot of spare time. To drink. And know things Townsend: Benteke: Tiqunho from Porto: Bounedjah (wanted by Marseille): Edouard from Celtic: Andrasz Sporar to Celtic: Rigoni from Sampdoria: Oudin wanted by PL clubs: And same for the others. I know that Bologna paid 10 million for the youngster Skov Olsen. In the time since hes been there he's been backup for Orsolini (also a good player, but higher than 30 million in price range). Skov Olsen scored in the last 4 months 1 goals in Serie A and 6 goals for Denmark U21 (top goalscorer at U21 level). If they're ot using him as much as Orsolini, I know a 15 million bid would mean instant profit for them and would at least tempt them. Calvin Stengs, the other 20 year old, is at a similar price. These are the highest prices a club like Alkmaar from the Netherlands could demand. I really wish you guys had seen these kids play, they're fantastic. Matheus Pereira will surely be signed by WBA cause the 10 million they have as option to buy is really a small fee for him. Now I don't know if they would agree to sell for just 15 (they'll probably wait for much more from a PL side),but perhaps tempting them with an immediate profit would work. Eintracht Frankfurt were really close tonletting Kamada go for 5 million to Genoa in the summer. They eventually decided to give him a chance of becoming a forst team player at 23 years old and he took it. But his price can't have gone up significantly, so I estimate a bid of around 8 million should do the trick (prices in the Bundesliga are much more grounded for a number of good players). Ryan Christie is doing great but Celtic really undervalued him. They offered him a small contract and now it will be up in 2022. Even if some Celtic pundits would say he's worth 30 million at the way he is playing, I think that Celtic would rather cash in 10-15 million that lose him for free 2 years from now.
But also, bear in mind: - The damage it'll do to the harmony of the squad who are performing admirably in the league. - The inexperience of the new players both in the Premier League and with their new teammates. I'm all for bringing in 1 or 2 new faces and blending in, but I don't agree with replacing players such as Townsend or McCarthy or Reidewald just because we think there may be better.
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Originally posted by rikz
Just get morelos from rangers, 28 goals this season is decent regardless of the league, wont cost a stupid amount, got something about him and only 23 This would be my choice... This lad is seriously talented in my opinion but comes with a crazy streak to... Unfortunately I think we are a season to late. I can’t see Rangers taking less than £20m for him and I can’t see us being able to afford that sadly..
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