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Spiderman Horsham 13 Mar 20 3.19pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Sadly as it stands now there will be no Europe football next year, everything will have to go on hold that is until a vaccine is found, the infections will never really go away until a vaccine is found, meaning that the vulnerable will remain vulnerable for possibly over a year sadly. And will China ban the disgusting markets that cuased this? I doubt it despite their claims.

Spiderman

Horsham 13 Mar 20 3.19pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Sadly as it stands now there will be no Europe football next year, everything will have to go on hold that is until a vaccine is found, the infections will never really go away until a vaccine is found, meaning that the vulnerable will remain vulnerable for possibly over a year sadly.

And will China ban the disgusting markets that cuased this? I doubt it despite their claims.

Midlands Eagle 13 Mar 20 3.30pm
Originally posted by Spiderman If it is as bad as they say, perhaps airports should be closed but of course big business talks Nooooooooo We're only three weeks away from the Easter holidays and I've booked flights and a villa in Lanzarote where we go every Easter. End of May half term I've booked flights to Kefalonia and paid for a villa there too but I've noticed that my favourite restaurant over there which is one of the main reasons that we go has closed today until further notice

Midlands Eagle

13 Mar 20 3.30pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

If it is as bad as they say, perhaps airports should be closed but of course big business talks

Nooooooooo

We're only three weeks away from the Easter holidays and I've booked flights and a villa in Lanzarote where we go every Easter.

End of May half term I've booked flights to Kefalonia and paid for a villa there too but I've noticed that my favourite restaurant over there which is one of the main reasons that we go has closed today until further notice

Tickled pink Cornwall 13 Mar 20 3.50pm
Originally posted by Spiderman And will China ban the disgusting markets that cuased this? I doubt it despite their claims. People were moaning about us not being clean enough and not taking care of our health, but the outbreak resulted as you correctly say from catching and selling live animals that have not been tested safe for human consumption and it is not the first time this has happened in this country, We are clean and we are health conscious because these incidences do not happen everything is properly tested and secure our system works ..China's does not, their system is as corrupt as the food they sell in live markets.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 13 Mar 20 3.50pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

And will China ban the disgusting markets that cuased this? I doubt it despite their claims.

People were moaning about us not being clean enough and not taking care of our health, but the outbreak resulted as you correctly say from catching and selling live animals that have not been tested safe for human consumption and it is not the first time this has happened in this country, We are clean and we are health conscious because these incidences do not happen everything is properly tested and secure our system works ..China's does not, their system is as corrupt as the food they sell in live markets.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Mar 20 4.05pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Nooooooooo We're only three weeks away from the Easter holidays and I've booked flights and a villa in Lanzarote where we go every Easter. End of May half term I've booked flights to Kefalonia and paid for a villa there too but I've noticed that my favourite restaurant over there which is one of the main reasons that we go has closed today until further notice Agree with you, we've gotta get back home to Alicante next Tues. Also, we is flying back to UK early May so we can go out to Tenerife(its so much cheaper via LGW) This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Mar 20 4.05pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Nooooooooo

We're only three weeks away from the Easter holidays and I've booked flights and a villa in Lanzarote where we go every Easter.

Agree with you, we've gotta get back home to Alicante next Tues. Also, we is flying back to UK early May so we can go out to Tenerife(its so much cheaper via LGW)

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

taylors lovechild 13 Mar 20 5.13pm
The thing is, on top of suspending the games for at least three weeks they've also told clubs not to carry out training sessions, so at a minimum clubs would need an extra week on top of the three week suspension to get players ready. China first reported the outbreak at the end of 2019 and it is only now numbers are stabilising. If Europe followed the same pattern we could be talking about the end of May before things start returning to normal, so 3/4 April is a very optimistic target in reality given they don't even think the virus has peaked in the UK yet. One possible hope is that global warming does something good for a change and brings abnormally warm weather to the continent, as I understand the virus does not survive well in warm weather. Here in Malta they've shut the schools already after less than 10 cases and kids have been told to stay indoors. Now I don't even have football to keep me sane!

taylors lovechild

13 Mar 20 5.13pm

The thing is, on top of suspending the games for at least three weeks they've also told clubs not to carry out training sessions, so at a minimum clubs would need an extra week on top of the three week suspension to get players ready. China first reported the outbreak at the end of 2019 and it is only now numbers are stabilising. If Europe followed the same pattern we could be talking about the end of May before things start returning to normal, so 3/4 April is a very optimistic target in reality given they don't even think the virus has peaked in the UK yet.

One possible hope is that global warming does something good for a change and brings abnormally warm weather to the continent, as I understand the virus does not survive well in warm weather. Here in Malta they've shut the schools already after less than 10 cases and kids have been told to stay indoors. Now I don't even have football to keep me sane!

Midlands Eagle 13 Mar 20 5.54pm
I wonder what will happen to Sky's payments to the clubs if there are no matches for them to televise

Midlands Eagle

13 Mar 20 5.54pm

I wonder what will happen to Sky's payments to the clubs if there are no matches for them to televise

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Mar 20 6.15pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I wonder what will happen to Sky's payments to the clubs if there are no matches for them to televise What will happen to the subscribers to BT,Sky etc, will they get a refund/reduction with their contracts? This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Mar 20 6.15pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I wonder what will happen to Sky's payments to the clubs if there are no matches for them to televise

What will happen to the subscribers to BT,Sky etc, will they get a refund/reduction with their contracts?

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Spiderman Horsham 13 Mar 20 6.43pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 What will happen to the subscribers to BT,Sky etc, will they get a refund/reduction with their contracts? What will happen to ST holders if no further games are played?

Spiderman

Horsham 13 Mar 20 6.43pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

What will happen to the subscribers to BT,Sky etc, will they get a refund/reduction with their contracts?

What will happen to ST holders if no further games are played?

Spiderman Horsham 13 Mar 20 6.45pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Nooooooooo We're only three weeks away from the Easter holidays and I've booked flights and a villa in Lanzarote where we go every Easter. End of May half term I've booked flights to Kefalonia and paid for a villa there too but I've noticed that my favourite restaurant over there which is one of the main reasons that we go has closed today until further notice Going away at Easter and half term! Is HOL paying you too much ?

Spiderman

Horsham 13 Mar 20 6.45pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Nooooooooo

We're only three weeks away from the Easter holidays and I've booked flights and a villa in Lanzarote where we go every Easter.

Going away at Easter and half term! Is HOL paying you too much ?

Spiderman Horsham 13 Mar 20 6.54pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink People were moaning about us not being clean enough and not taking care of our health, but the outbreak resulted as you correctly say from catching and selling live animals that have not been tested safe for human consumption and it is not the first time this has happened in this country, We are clean and we are health conscious because these incidences do not happen everything is properly tested and secure our system works ..China's does not, their system is as corrupt as the food they sell in live markets. I hope you don’t lose your holiday but I am thinking of my nearest and dearest. No protection against dealing with people coming from wherever. When I am in self isolation I will frequent this board more often... be warned

Spiderman

Horsham 13 Mar 20 6.54pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

I hope you don’t lose your holiday but I am thinking of my nearest and dearest. No protection against dealing with people coming from wherever. When I am in self isolation I will frequent this board more often... be warned

kev64 Cambs 13 Mar 20 8.04pm
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Cambs 13 Mar 20 8.04pm

Same old Arsenal

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Badger11 Beckenham 13 Mar 20 8.28pm
A number of big games in Europe this week were held behind closed doors several thousand fans turned up anyway outside the ground which required police support. The whole point was not to put a strain on the emergency services. I think the PL and EPL have taken note so I suspect playing behind closed doors may not work. Edited by Badger11 (13 Mar 2020 8.29pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 13 Mar 20 8.28pm

A number of big games in Europe this week were held behind closed doors several thousand fans turned up anyway outside the ground which required police support. The whole point was not to put a strain on the emergency services.

I think the PL and EPL have taken note so I suspect playing behind closed doors may not work.

Edited by Badger11 (13 Mar 2020 8.29pm)

One more point

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Mar 20 8.44pm
Originally posted by Spiderman And will China ban the disgusting markets that cuased this? I doubt it despite their claims. No. Because even if they did, it would simply drive the trade underground, with even less oversight, and therefore higher probability of this kind of thing happening again. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 13 Mar 20 8.44pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

And will China ban the disgusting markets that cuased this? I doubt it despite their claims.

No. Because even if they did, it would simply drive the trade underground, with even less oversight, and therefore higher probability of this kind of thing happening again.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

cryrst The garden of England 13 Mar 20 8.55pm
So when the PL was being talked about and finally implemented they had meetings and made the rules. At no point was the possibility of not being able to finish a season discussed. In reference to team position and final outcome etc. I can imagine something like tony the tea boy " hey guys,what happens if the league starts and cannot end for whatever reason? Do the teams get treated at the finish point as if they are in their final position?" Scudamore "Guffaw,guffaw dont be so stupid and pour my tea, that tony; is why you are the tea boy,never heard anything so stupid. It would not stop even for a war so no point even putting it in the rules." As they say fact is stranger than fiction. Ironically if a rule was put in back then at conception then clubs would have to stick and abide by it. As you accept the rules when you take the sheckles. Hindsight is a wonderful thing

cryrst

The garden of England 13 Mar 20 8.55pm

So when the PL was being talked about and finally implemented they had meetings and made the rules.
At no point was the possibility of not being able to finish a season discussed.
In reference to team position and final outcome etc.
I can imagine something like tony the tea boy
" hey guys,what happens if the league starts and cannot end for whatever reason?
Do the teams get treated at the finish point as if they are in their final position?"

Scudamore
"Guffaw,guffaw dont be so stupid and pour my tea, that tony; is why you are the tea boy,never heard anything so stupid.
It would not stop even for a war so no point even putting it in the rules."

As they say fact is stranger than fiction.
Ironically if a rule was put in back then at conception then clubs would have to stick and abide by it. As you accept the rules when you take the sheckles.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Phil’s Barber Crowborough 13 Mar 20 9.15pm
Like some others have said, I see this suspension going on well beyond the beginning of April. The peak is still some way off and we’ve still got a quarter of the season to play. They won’t restart the season whilst cases are still on the increase...in a nutshell, it’s NOT going to get finished. I genuinely think the current season will get written off as a Non event. Leagues will stay as they are, no one will be awarded titles, promotion or relegation as NONE have been decided and we will all just re-start next season as if this one never happened. It’s rubbish for a lot of teams for sure but sh*t happens! The silver lining being that the scousers are 25 points clear, having NEVER won the Premier League and having not been crowned the top flight champions for 30 years... and it’s going to be declared Null & Void!

Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 13 Mar 20 9.15pm

Like some others have said, I see this suspension going on well beyond the beginning of April. The peak is still some way off and we’ve still got a quarter of the season to play. They won’t restart the season whilst cases are still on the increase...in a nutshell, it’s NOT going to get finished.

I genuinely think the current season will get written off as a Non event.

Leagues will stay as they are, no one will be awarded titles, promotion or relegation as NONE have been decided and we will all just re-start next season as if this one never happened.

It’s rubbish for a lot of teams for sure but sh*t happens!

The silver lining being that the scousers are 25 points clear, having NEVER won the Premier League and having not been crowned the top flight champions for 30 years... and it’s going to be declared Null & Void!

Tickled pink Cornwall 13 Mar 20 11.31pm
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber Like some others have said, I see this suspension going on well beyond the beginning of April. The peak is still some way off and we’ve still got a quarter of the season to play. They won’t restart the season whilst cases are still on the increase...in a nutshell, it’s NOT going to get finished. I genuinely think the current season will get written off as a Non event. Leagues will stay as they are, no one will be awarded titles, promotion or relegation as NONE have been decided and we will all just re-start next season as if this one never happened. It’s rubbish for a lot of teams for sure but sh*t happens! The silver lining being that the scousers are 25 points clear, having NEVER won the Premier League and having not been crowned the top flight champions for 30 years... and it’s going to be declared Null & Void! I think you are going to be correct.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 13 Mar 20 11.31pm

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

I genuinely think the current season will get written off as a Non event.

Leagues will stay as they are, no one will be awarded titles, promotion or relegation as NONE have been decided and we will all just re-start next season as if this one never happened.

It’s rubbish for a lot of teams for sure but sh*t happens!

I think you are going to be correct.

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Mar 20 11.46pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink I think you are going to be correct. I’m not so sure. I think they will find some way to promote/relegate La Liga already considering developing a formula, for example. Surely this has precedent - there must have been one season where it either finished prematurely or one that had a pause and restarted? Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 13 Mar 20 11.46pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

I think you are going to be correct.

I’m not so sure. I think they will find some way to promote/relegate

La Liga already considering developing a formula, for example.

Surely this has precedent - there must have been one season where it either finished prematurely or one that had a pause and restarted?

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Mar 20 11.50pm
Originally posted by Badger11 A number of big games in Europe this week were held behind closed doors several thousand fans turned up anyway outside the ground which required police support. The whole point was not to put a strain on the emergency services. I think the PL and EPL have taken note so I suspect playing behind closed doors may not work. Edited by Badger11 (13 Mar 2020 8.29pm) I reckon I can guess which club’s fans turn up to try and get in. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 13 Mar 20 11.50pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I think the PL and EPL have taken note so I suspect playing behind closed doors may not work.

Edited by Badger11 (13 Mar 2020 8.29pm)

I reckon I can guess which club’s fans turn up to try and get in.

COYP

cryrst The garden of England 14 Mar 20 5.55am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC I’m not so sure. I think they will find some way to promote/relegate La Liga already considering developing a formula, for example. Surely this has precedent - there must have been one season where it either finished prematurely or one that had a pause and restarted? Not as the EPL. If there wasnt all the dough involved then clubs would agree, but it's all about the jessie j.

cryrst

The garden of England 14 Mar 20 5.55am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I’m not so sure. I think they will find some way to promote/relegate

La Liga already considering developing a formula, for example.

Surely this has precedent - there must have been one season where it either finished prematurely or one that had a pause and restarted?

Not as the EPL.
If there wasnt all the dough involved then clubs would agree, but it's all about the jessie j.

Badger11 Beckenham 14 Mar 20 7.32am
Predictably Karen Brady has said that the season should be cancelled thus offering West ham a lifeline. Other variations I have heard are: 1. End the season now all results stand as they are promote and relegate based on that. probably the harshest but fairest solution. The problem is that clubs will point out that the rules have changed intra season. 2. Complete the season which will over run into September this is very fair but maybe impractical. Then shorten next season to catch up by cancelling FA and League cups and somehow reduce the number of games teams play. Something like everybody plays each other once and then there are mini leagues e.g. top group play each other once, middle and bottom or some variation. If they can find a solution to reducing the fixture list the advantage of this is that everybody goes into the season knowing what the rules are at the start. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 14 Mar 20 7.32am

Predictably Karen Brady has said that the season should be cancelled thus offering West ham a lifeline.

Other variations I have heard are:

1. End the season now all results stand as they are promote and relegate based on that. probably the harshest but fairest solution. The problem is that clubs will point out that the rules have changed intra season.

2. Complete the season which will over run into September this is very fair but maybe impractical.

Then shorten next season to catch up by cancelling FA and League cups and somehow reduce the number of games teams play. Something like everybody plays each other once and then there are mini leagues e.g. top group play each other once, middle and bottom or some variation.

If they can find a solution to reducing the fixture list the advantage of this is that everybody goes into the season knowing what the rules are at the start.

One more point

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