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bicycle repair man 17 Sep 20 8.22pm

Echoes of Charlton fans when they wanted rid of Alan Curbishley.
They got their way, and ultimately the result was third tier football.
I'll stick with Roy, but I imagine the great man will probably call it a day at the end of the season anyway.

 

jeeagles Flag 17 Sep 20 8.40pm

Originally posted by Palaceoldy

Palace board must have some idea where they want to get to but it's always the journey which is the problem. You can throw money at the team and stadium but that is no guarantee of success. It the last five years the following clubs have spent nett : Brighton £197 M, Bournemouth 133m, West ham 155m, Watford 95.2m. two have gone down two finished below us last season. Our spend was £55m. Then look at Everton their nett spend was 275m. So Roy hasn't done too bad. The most we should hope for is a cup or europa place.Keeping us in the premiership is number 1 priority until we require the funds to improve the squad other than from TV money. Hence more supporters and corporate boxes.I.e. bigger stadium. Other than that its someone with big pockets.

Our board have been specifically targeting players in positions we need filling most.

It does show if you give a manager free reign over spending they are likely to piss a lot of money up the wall.

We've got a pretty stable and professional squad over a series of managers. A testiment to how the club is run. The only time we really went mental over transfers is when we were promoted. Brighton have been wasting money all over the place since they got into the Championship.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 17 Sep 20 9.09pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Our board have been specifically targeting players in positions we need filling most.

It does show if you give a manager free reign over spending they are likely to piss a lot of money up the wall.

We've got a pretty stable and professional squad over a series of managers. A testiment to how the club is run. The only time we really went mental over transfers is when we were promoted. Brighton have been wasting money all over the place since they got into the Championship.

Except for right back, which they seemed to ignore and to a lesser extent centre forward. Everywhere else I grant has been competently covered.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Sep 20 10.02pm

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Echoes of Charlton fans when they wanted rid of Alan Curbishley.
They got their way, and ultimately the result was third tier football.
I'll stick with Roy, but I imagine the great man will probably call it a day at the end of the season anyway.


I'm not so sure. If this window is the start of the new plan (as it seems to be) and if all goes well this season (i.e we finish in a comfortable or even better position), Roy may we be asked ()and agree to stay around for another year to bed in part two of the new plan arising from next summer's transfer window.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Sep 20 10.10pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Except for right back, which they seemed to ignore and to a lesser extent centre forward. Everywhere else I grant has been competently covered.


There is a difference between targetting which is what the poster said and actually signing. We were after Ferguson in January and presumably see him as the long term solution to the RB problem provided he recovers fully from his injury.

Getting the right striker is a very tricky job. I don't know who we've been targetting in the past two windows but at least we now have Batshuayi for this season and possibly beyond if he performs to our liking. If we can get Brewster as well, we could be well set for the foreseeable future. It's then a question of who we can attract to our upgraded academy and whether any of the existing members will be able to make the leap to the PL for us.

Edited by doombear (17 Sep 2020 10.11pm)

 

michaelpearce Flag grays 18 Sep 20 7.22am

well read most of the posts did make me laugh the original post. I would like to see Roy go but lets see how the new signings the youngsters blend in.
was a little upset about the cup exit because for me to progress we need to pick up a trophy or 2 and get us into Europe. that way the better players would A,stay and B,we could attract bigger names and C,Better sponsorship deals, called knock on effect.

I did enjoy the original post i would have him in the trenches everyday one soldier gets shot lets surrender, alot of us on here have been supporting palace and dodging bullets for years, so dont panic capt Mainwaring

 

taylors lovechild Flag 18 Sep 20 10.43am

Originally posted by Painter

Where did you see Bats, Cabaye and RLC play the season before last, as Cabaye and RLC left the season before and Bats didn't come until six months after they left?

Ok, it seems my memory is terrible! I suppose that's a good thing after last season's football.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Sep 20 11.24am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Ok, it seems my memory is terrible! I suppose that's a good thing after last season's football.[/quote]


You mean you saw some football last season? Where?

 

taylors lovechild Flag 18 Sep 20 12.00pm

Originally posted by doombear

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Ok, it seems my memory is terrible! I suppose that's a good thing after last season's football.[/quote]


You mean you saw some football last season? Where?

Mostly from our opponents

Just to be positive for a second, after signing Eze we now have one of the PL's best dribblers in Zaha, one of the top 3 dribblers from last season's Championship in Eze and Ayew, who is also very good on the ball. Now we might still struggle to string three passes together, but if we do add Benrahma in as well it could be hard work for opposition defences (although we still need to put it in the net). I still think the return to 442 is a big step in improving the quality of our football, as we are not a possession team so 5 in midfield is a waste and three holding midfielders limits our counter attacking potency. I think Roy and Palace will do well this season.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Sep 20 12.49pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Mostly from our opponents

Just to be positive for a second, after signing Eze we now have one of the PL's best dribblers in Zaha, one of the top 3 dribblers from last season's Championship in Eze and Ayew, who is also very good on the ball. Now we might still struggle to string three passes together, but if we do add Benrahma in as well it could be hard work for opposition defences (although we still need to put it in the net). I still think the return to 442 is a big step in improving the quality of our football, as we are not a possession team so 5 in midfield is a waste and three holding midfielders limits our counter attacking potency. I think Roy and Palace will do well this season.


Staying on a positive note, I, too, think we can and hopefully will do well this season. From what Roy said yesterday, it seems Benrahma isn't our no 1 priority at present (but that could, of course, be a smokescreen) and that we want another striker, first.

 

Den1923 Flag 18 Sep 20 1.07pm

Originally posted by doombear


Staying on a positive note, I, too, think we can and hopefully will do well this season. From what Roy said yesterday, it seems Benrahma isn't our no 1 priority at present (but that could, of course, be a smokescreen) and that we want another striker, first.

No one could disagree with that, this has been our weakness for sometime now!

 

jeeagles Flag 18 Sep 20 1.50pm

Originally posted by Den1923

No one could disagree with that, this has been our weakness for sometime now!

We sign or loan a new striker pretty much every transfer window.

 

Den1923 Flag 18 Sep 20 5.31pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

We sign or loan a new striker pretty much every transfer window.

In my mind a striker is a 20 goal plus per season man, we have not had a good sniffer striker like Ings or Vardy who are both out and out goal poachers who anticipate and seek the back of the net at every opportunity. Loanees are usually fringe players who are not quite there as a first team regular and are often in need of gametime!

 

jeeagles Flag 18 Sep 20 7.59pm

Originally posted by Den1923

In my mind a striker is a 20 goal plus per season man, we have not had a good sniffer striker like Ings or Vardy who are both out and out goal poachers who anticipate and seek the back of the net at every opportunity. Loanees are usually fringe players who are not quite there as a first team regular and are often in need of gametime!

Unfortunately, every other club is looking for exactly the same thing. For every Vardy and Ings clubs waste hundreds of millions of pounds. Take Tosun and Batshuayi. Our previous managers wanted to sign them both for £30m each!

 

Den1923 Flag 18 Sep 20 9.10pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Unfortunately, every other club is looking for exactly the same thing. For every Vardy and Ings clubs waste hundreds of millions of pounds. Take Tosun and Batshuayi. Our previous managers wanted to sign them both for £30m each!

Vardy cost Leicester 1mil from fleetwood Town in 2012 and our own Ian Wright came from Greenwich Borough so there are bargains are out there you just need to have the scouting infrastructure that finds them. As for Batshuayi and Tosun, no comment, that why they are our on loan, just remember we paid 27mil for Benteke, four goals since 2017, so paying the cash does not guarantee a good striker.

 

braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 18 Sep 20 9.13pm

Originally posted by Den1923

Vardy cost Leicester 1mil from fleetwood Town in 2012 and our own Ian Wright came from Greenwich Borough so there are bargains are out there you just need to have the scouting infrastructure that finds them. As for Batshuayi and Tosun, no comment, that why they are our on loan, just remember we paid 27mil for Benteke, four goals since 2017, so paying the cash does not guarantee a good striker.

i dont know if you remember but actually we were linked with vardy at the time he joined leicester.

 


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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 19 Sep 20 9.41am

Questions for the Roy-out crowd:

*Do you think the players we have are capable of playing more front-foot, possession-based football and getting significantly more points?

*if not, do you blame Roy for that?

*If yes, which players would you select for this bolder approach?

*If we played possession-based, dominant football, how would you deal with the fact our defenders are relatively slow and/or not fabulous in 1 on 1s, and we don't look a team with the legs for a pressing game?

I think there are marginal changes he could make that would make us more attractive to watch and attacking-- specifically integrating Meyer into the starting 11 more, although isn't he anyway in his final year?-- but overall I'm not sure how much Roy can change it up with the players he has.

 


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Den1923 Flag 19 Sep 20 10.40am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i dont know if you remember but actually we were linked with vardy at the time he joined leicester.

Sorry I do not remember that one, sadly we missed out but at least we know there are bargains out there that do not have to cost a fortune. The hard bit is finding them!

 

babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 19 Sep 20 10.59am

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Good points Dutchie. I would only add that if attendances stayed severely restricted, football teams that thrive will be those that people want to watch. That's a more long term comment but most definitely worth keeping in mind today.

Good point. Perhaps they should divide the tv money not on leaugue position but based on how many neutrals switched a team off sky sports because they were bored s***less by an unattractive game.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 19 Sep 20 11.04am

Roy will still be in charge when he is wheeled on in his bath-chair.

And still keeping Palace in the Premier League.

 

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