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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 23 Nov 20 9.14pm

Originally posted by Petts Wood Eagle

No worse than Bats, Ayew, Townsend or PVA today.

We appear to have killed Ayew, very sad business and Townsend had a very good first half tonight, PVA was lost without Zaha in front of him and we had four great moments where we went with a lovely run until they panicked and did a professional this part of the game needs more then just a yellow because a free kick with their whole team organised in defending themselves is not the correct outcome.

Batshuayi is totally unable to read a pass and Benteke has mentally lost it.

Our defending is disastrous, Kouyate tried to head a ball clear of danger and instead gave it to the one player Burnley have who needs no help in scoring, it was quite similar to Kelly's wonderful pass to Ings at Southampton ...almost quite funny how we help teams struggling with confidence.

 

Petts Wood Eagle Flag Petts Wood 23 Nov 20 9.20pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

We appear to have killed Ayew, very sad business and Townsend had a very good first half tonight, PVA was lost without Zaha in front of him and we had four great moments where we went with a lovely run until they panicked and did a professional this part of the game needs more then just a yellow because a free kick with their whole team organised in defending themselves is not the correct outcome.

Batshuayi is totally unable to read a pass and Benteke has mentally lost it.

Our defending is disastrous, Kouyate tried to head a ball clear of danger and instead gave it to the one player Burnley have who needs no help in scoring, it was quite similar to Kelly's wonderful pass to Ings at Southampton ...almost quite funny how we help teams struggling with confidence.

I agree with the majority of your response apart from
Townsend, average first half, shocking second half. Which is disappointing, as he has had pretty good spell recently.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 23 Nov 20 10.10pm

Originally posted by Petts Wood Eagle

I agree with the majority of your response apart from
Townsend, average first half, shocking second half. Which is disappointing, as he has had pretty good spell recently.


Agree. I was flabbergasted when Hinchcliffe? said Andros had played well and shouldn't be substituted. He had an awful 2nd half and got worse the longer the half went on.

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 23 Nov 20 10.35pm

The stage was set for Benteke to salvage a point, and yet again, he finds a way to f*** it up.

World class save indeed, but he has totally lost his eye for goal (and that was a couple of seasons ago).

Yeh he is good in the air, yes he can be physical sometimes, yes he is useful in some ways, but can we really afford to have him on the pitch when a golden chance comes, because he just cannot score goals anymore when the pressure is on.

He should not be at the club anymore.

 


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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 23 Nov 20 10.50pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

Gets no service what do you expect and only had what 15min maybe up to 20min if you count the injury time which was wasted by players claiming they are hurt

I expect him to do something when he is virtually put through one on one in the very last minute... Would you not expect that or were you happy with how he performed in that situation??

This is the issue... He's a striker and when he does get an opportunity to shine he f***s it up time and time again... His goalscoring record for 3 seasons or so is how good exactly??

 


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AERO Flag 23 Nov 20 10.56pm

100% Agree He has had service , and I ve mentioned on numerous occasions on here he has to go he is just not up to it. Seriously can't believe there are people on here who still think he will score goals for us .

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Nov 20 11.42pm

Originally posted by AERO

100% Agree He has had service , and I ve mentioned on numerous occasions on here he has to go he is just not up to it. Seriously can't believe there are people on here who still think he will score goals for us .

I suggested him to make an appearance off the bench as Batshuayi and Ayew were dreadful and I thought maybe Benteke's physical presence might help our cause.

We all know about Benteke's scoring record and with Batshuayi having only scored 1 goal in his last 22 club matches, and that being against Hull,we really had some goals in our squad tonight!!!!

 

redshift Flag Toronto 24 Nov 20 1.07am

Originally posted by Willo

Add to that McArthur.
Defence was 'All at sea' including the goalkeeper.

Defense definitely was but I don't include Guaita. How many times did he come out from his box to play defense... seemed like a lot to me. That is a GK who doesn't trust the guys in front of him, and he wasn't wrong.
I'd also take PVA off the list. Not a great game but he was trying.

 


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Wilbraham413 Flag 24 Nov 20 2.00am

The hilarious thing about Benteke is the ball seeks him out all the time, only for him to butcher wide open chances.

His last attempt today was classic, the ball was threaded through 10 players, arrives right at the feet of Benteke in the box with a wide open goal in front of him, and he panics and completely blows the chance. No one else would ever get a ball like that.

It's like the gods of football get a laugh out of watching him fail.

 


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thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 24 Nov 20 3.01am

Originally posted by redshift

Defense definitely was but I don't include Guaita. How many times did he come out from his box to play defense... seemed like a lot to me. That is a GK who doesn't trust the guys in front of him, and he wasn't wrong.
I'd also take PVA off the list. Not a great game but he was trying.


Well, he was not trying much when they scored the winner. Just watching when the assist for the goal fell into his area.
Will he ever learn to defend as a defender?

 

southnorwoodhill Flag 24 Nov 20 8.46am

How many more times does it need saying? He's a freeloading pile of s***.

 

Ian-VI Flag Vicenza 24 Nov 20 9.32am


Originally posted by grumpymort

Gets no service what do you expect and only had what 15min maybe up to 20min if you count the injury time which was wasted by players claiming they are hurt

LOL
You forgot the "not played to his strength" bit...

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 Nov 20 9.46am


dunno what happened to Townsend.

Normally he is brilliant, totally rubbish last night.

Benteke needs a transfer to a team in League One if he is to continue playing football.

 


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PatrickA Flag London 24 Nov 20 9.48am

With the current forwards at our disposal and playing 4-4-2, with Zaha as one of the two, the best partner for him is Benteke.
They have played well previously together and Zaha knows how to play off him and read Benteke’s flicks and hold up play.
There is no sign of any partnership between Zaha and either Ayew or Batshuayi.
Zaha made a goal for Ayew v Leeds and Batshuayi made a goal for Zaha v Fulham, but these were very much isolated incidents.
I’m not suggesting Benteke is the long term solution or the player he used to be, but he still seems the most natural partner for Zaha amongst the current options.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Nov 20 9.56am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


dunno what happened to Townsend.

Normally he is brilliant, totally rubbish last night.

Benteke needs a transfer to a team in League One if he is to continue playing football.

Personally, I am not of the opinion that he displays "Brilliance" on a regular occurrence.
He was generally disappointing last season, this season he has been much improved but last night he was absolutely appalling.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 24 Nov 20 10.00am

Originally posted by doombear


Agree. I was flabbergasted when Hinchcliffe? said Andros had played well and shouldn't be substituted. He had an awful 2nd half and got worse the longer the half went on.

Townsend had a solid first half I can not see what other fans are criticising him for, but as the second half wore on the whole team seemed to freeze with horror of not being able to break Burnley down, we had two to three really easy moments to get at Pope and I understand he is brilliant in positioning himself (much much better then Pickford) but poor ball control overhit and underhit passes undermined us and the frustration eventually culminated in Benteke's unfortunate control for what should've been the equalising goal with the last kick of the game.
The problem we have is that our players do not seem to be able to learn from these silly mistakes no matter how much I keep on believing they will, this is purely the reason they do not play for the likes of Chelsea or Liverpool and something we have to just swallow because if they didn't make these very silly mistakes they would be.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 24 Nov 20 10.36am

Originally posted by PatrickA

With the current forwards at our disposal and playing 4-4-2, with Zaha as one of the two, the best partner for him is Benteke.
They have played well previously together and Zaha knows how to play off him and read Benteke’s flicks and hold up play.
There is no sign of any partnership between Zaha and either Ayew or Batshuayi.
Zaha made a goal for Ayew v Leeds and Batshuayi made a goal for Zaha v Fulham, but these were very much isolated incidents.
I’m not suggesting Benteke is the long term solution or the player he used to be, but he still seems the most natural partner for Zaha amongst the current options.

Batshuayi and Benteke should not be in our attack full stop, Schlupp and Eze need to play the full 90 centrally behind Ayew who needs to be our one and only forward and mustn't wander around, Zaha, Townsend, Clyne and PVA should all be feeding the ball along the ground to Eze, schluup and Ayew we should not be playing crosses into anyone's box apart from corners when the likes of Dann can cause problems, last night our attacking play appeared more and more like a bowl of spaghetti having fights with Brussel sprouts but we played well enough for a draw so lets hope our plyers for once actually learnt something from it for the next game.

 

PatrickA Flag London 24 Nov 20 10.45am

Hodgson is playing 4-4-2 this season and has been doing so since pre-season.
He’s a methodical manager and is unlikely to change the system any time soon so anything else is wishful thinking.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Nov 20 10.47am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Townsend had a solid first half I can not see what other fans are criticising him for, but as the second half wore on the whole team seemed to freeze with horror of not being able to break Burnley down, we had two to three really easy moments to get at Pope and I understand he is brilliant in positioning himself (much much better then Pickford) but poor ball control overhit and underhit passes undermined us and the frustration eventually culminated in Benteke's unfortunate control for what should've been the equalising goal with the last kick of the game.
The problem we have is that our players do not seem to be able to learn from these silly mistakes no matter how much I keep on believing they will, this is purely the reason they do not play for the likes of Chelsea or Liverpool and something we have to just swallow because if they didn't make these very silly mistakes they would be.

Even if his control was exquisite I doubt if he would have scored!

 

Andy0629 Flag Warlingham 24 Nov 20 10.53am

My opinion, Benteke should have started, We need someone that can hold the ball up, take the pressure off the defence, bring players like Eze and Andros into the game, create space. Ayew just runs down blind alleys, no one rants when he passes the ball out for a throw when it was an 8 yard pass, he did nothing in 75 mins, yet Benteke has max 15 mins and is expected to turn things around. Roy got his tactics wrong, Benteke could help at defending set plays , everyone could see we were struggling. Yes he had a chance at the end, keeper saves it. Others missed easier chances but that’s ok.

 

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