On the radio an Everton fan brushed off last nights humiliation with typical Scouse optimism.

"We wont go down, games in hand, good home record, Frank knows what he's doing, just a blip, blah blah."

Well I hope the rest of the fan base and the players feel the same. It is clubs that take that attitude that they are too good to go down that have a rude shock.

Most of the other teams down there know they are in a scrap, as for games in hand at this time of the season I would rather have points on the board.

I think Frank has been lucky in his managerial career so far, he has done okay nothing more and yet he's managed Chelsea and Everton while better managers may never get that chance. We will now see what he's made of.

One more point

No interest in Everton’s fate in the league. But they’ll be forced to prioritise league over cup and with them playing Thursday evening it doesn’t give them much of a rest before our Quarter Final.

I think Lampard was used by Chelsea at a time when they had a transfer embargo. He did ok in reality, but it appeared that as soon as a big name manager became available, he was history.

The Everton job however is fraught with problems. If he keeps them up this season it will be an achievement. Then it's a major rebuild required and I don't think the money will be there that his predecessors had ( and largely wasted ).

In his post match interviews last night I thought he looked a little shell shocked....only now is he realising the size of the job he has.

Old, Ungifted and White

'Tis our noble duty mileend, 'tis our duty.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Same reason he didn’t want to go Newcastle either.

Leeds also scored a number of goals under Bielsa. The scored 0 at Leicester.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!