Cant believe Southgate has reverted to type and put TAA in the centre midfield .

I would have had him about 5th choice for one of those spots

Wrong team, won’t win unless he changes lineup

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Didn't take the 'trusted' bbc to link 3 stories & blame the English . . . [Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

The second half cried out for Wharton in the centre playing sharp passes in behind and Eze on the left running at defenders. Not Gallagher and Bowen. Palmer for Foden too.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Watching Kane was like watching a Palace centre forward playing under Hodgson. You can't tell if it was lack of service or the player was lazy but they were just not involved in the game.

Kane and Foden were the worst two players for us and TAA wasn’t far behind, if they stay in the team, quarters at most

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Well at least there is agreement about the under performers last night. I was surprised, but perhaps shouldn't have been, that Foden wasn't withdrawn at 60 or 70 mins for Eze. With the Serbs more committed to attack, it would have been ideal for him. Maybe that's an indication of where he really sits in the England ratings. He may not appear unless we end up with a dead rubber against Slovenia.
An aside but Anderson looked underwhelming for Denmark. Almost a right back I thought, which didn't seem to suit.

This is my thinking as well.

I have been in conversation with a plethora of people over the weeks, many whom were optimistic of England's chances of winning the tournament, but I was consistent in my messaging that England do not have a "Snowflake in Hades" chance of returning home with the trophy.

Last night, we exercised control for the first half hour but thereafter we were distinctly disappointing and at the end of the match one never concluded that here was a team that had a good chance of winning the tournament.
Many will have concluded that Southgate and the team will return home before the final on the back of lacerating attacks.

The only positives from last night, a victory and a "Clean sheet".

Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2024 8.30am)

Last night I saw a combination of tired players and a team without any tactical identity. That will get us nowhere.

It's nice now as I have something to compare it to which all should understand - Oliver Glasner. A man with a distinct philosophy/way of playing who has transformed our football club.

If anybody can articulate what Gareth's style/way of playing is I'd love to hear it? I strongly believe there is none.

A team without a coherent game plan, relying on individual players who look a bit knackered after another gruelling season and the weight of a nation on their shoulders. My expectations are set low.

Being a soft touch, 'feelings-based' friend of a group of players isn't football management IMHO.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Agree with all of this, except for the bit in red TAA should not be in midfield - or backup for Rice, but backup for Walker.

I actually thought that Gallagher was the right choice at that point (should have been earlier) as we were losing the battle in midfield and needed his energy and industry. DR and TAA are too attacking and don't 'get in to' the opposistion enough. After he came on, we didn't give them as much time, and generally we limited their effectiveness.
I Would like Wharton to start alongside Rice, (although I'm a little unsure of his defensive capabilities at this level - he can't be the whole package yet!) he's got to be better than TAA in there, especially against the 'lesser opposition' - to start with.

Apart from that, the main criticism has to be against Foden. Shockingly bad - the worst I've seen him in an England Shirt. Constantly gave the ball away, always going backwards or sideways. Cesc Fabregas called it after the match, this is His time to show The world what he can do, and he's not doing it. Any of Gordon, Palmer or Eze would have done a better job last night. personally I think Eze won't do it on the left, and needs to be more central, so would rather not risking him damaging his rep! Gordon on left and Saka on right, for me gives the team a decent balance.

need to start this Team vs Denmark - they looked dangerous vs slovenia.

----------- Pickford
Walker - Stones - Guehi - Trip
------- Wharton - Rice --
Saka ---- Bellingham ---- Gordon
------------- Kane

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"