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Eaglecoops CR3 02 Dec 20 6.03pm
Originally posted by NEILLO If he said '' yes '' I wouldn't say anything. I'd be speechless !

Eaglecoops

CR3 02 Dec 20 6.03pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

If he said '' yes '' I wouldn't say anything. I'd be speechless !

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Dec 20 6.24pm
In true Souness style "I go back to what I have said" - Roy Hodgson is tried and trusted, he has ensured that we have remained in the PL for 3 seasons on a limited spend and he has met his objectives. He has a great deal of credit in the 'Bank' and will be at the helm for the foreseeable future. He might have already decided that this is going to be his last season as a manager,come hell or high water,and at the end of the season if we are still in the PL with him at the helm and he decided to 'Bring down the curtain' on his managerial career he will depart with his head held high and will always receive a warm and hearty welcome at Selhurst Park and deservedly so.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Dec 20 6.24pm

In true Souness style "I go back to what I have said" - Roy Hodgson is tried and trusted, he has ensured that we have remained in the PL for 3 seasons on a limited spend and he has met his objectives.

He has a great deal of credit in the 'Bank' and will be at the helm for the foreseeable future.
He might have already decided that this is going to be his last season as a manager,come hell or high water,and at the end of the season if we are still in the PL with him at the helm and he decided to 'Bring down the curtain' on his managerial career he will depart with his head held high and will always receive a warm and hearty welcome at Selhurst Park and deservedly so.

Eaglecoops CR3 03 Dec 20 9.46am
Originally posted by Willo In true Souness style "I go back to what I have said" - Roy Hodgson is tried and trusted, he has ensured that we have remained in the PL for 3 seasons on a limited spend and he has met his objectives. He has a great deal of credit in the 'Bank' and will be at the helm for the foreseeable future. He might have already decided that this is going to be his last season as a manager,come hell or high water,and at the end of the season if we are still in the PL with him at the helm and he decided to 'Bring down the curtain' on his managerial career he will depart with his head held high and will always receive a warm and hearty welcome at Selhurst Park and deservedly so. Sorry I read that wrong Willo, I thought you said he was tired and crusted.

Eaglecoops

CR3 03 Dec 20 9.46am

Originally posted by Willo

Sorry I read that wrong Willo, I thought you said he was tired and crusted.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 9.49am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Sorry I read that wrong Willo, I thought you said he was tired and crusted. That applies to 'Yours truly' !

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 9.49am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Sorry I read that wrong Willo, I thought you said he was tired and crusted.

That applies to 'Yours truly' !

Eaglecoops CR3 03 Dec 20 10.12am
Originally posted by Willo That applies to 'Yours truly' ! Edited by Eaglecoops (03 Dec 2020 10.12am)

Eaglecoops

CR3 03 Dec 20 10.12am

Originally posted by Willo

That applies to 'Yours truly' !

Edited by Eaglecoops (03 Dec 2020 10.12am)

Jacey 03 Dec 20 11.30am
If Roy leaves at the end of this season,who is likely to be recruited to sit on the Palace throne? Usual suspects in the frame include Dyche,Howe,Frank to name a few. May well depend on whether we are still in this league and can attract quality. One assumes SP has a plan in place.

Jacey

03 Dec 20 11.30am

If Roy leaves at the end of this season,who is likely to be recruited to sit on the Palace throne?
Usual suspects in the frame include Dyche,Howe,Frank to name a few.
May well depend on whether we are still in this league and can attract quality.
One assumes SP has a plan in place.

tonymikejoe UK 03 Dec 20 11.37am
Originally posted by Jacey If Roy leaves at the end of this season,who is likely to be recruited to sit on the Palace throne? Usual suspects in the frame include Dyche,Howe,Frank to name a few. May well depend on whether we are still in this league and can attract quality. One assumes SP has a plan in place. Who's Frank?

tonymikejoe

UK 03 Dec 20 11.37am

Originally posted by Jacey

Who's Frank?

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 11.45am
Originally posted by tonymikejoe Who's Frank? Enstein Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 11.45am

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

Who's Frank?

Enstein

Red and Blue Army!

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 03 Dec 20 11.56am
Originally posted by tonymikejoe Who's Frank? Can't see him leaving Chelsea Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 03 Dec 20 11.56am

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

Who's Frank?

Can't see him leaving Chelsea

Old, Ungifted and White

Jacey 03 Dec 20 11.56am
Originally posted by tonymikejoe Who's Frank? Thomas Frank, Brentford Manager.

Jacey

03 Dec 20 11.56am

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

Who's Frank?

Thomas Frank, Brentford Manager.

Uphill Bedford 03 Dec 20 1.51pm
Seems obvious to me. If Zaha leaves then Mr Hodgson must follow. He has no clue how to use what is a fairly talented (if aging) squad to advantage. I'd say even if Wilf stays new blood is desirable. We would need an Allardyce-type from the old school or a Tomas Frank from the new to get the very best of what we have. Someone not afraid (unlike Hodgson) to give youth a chance. I do wonder if he approved the signing of Eze or if Freedman was anticipating a new manager or maybe a first signing for himself ? Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

Uphill

Bedford 03 Dec 20 1.51pm

Seems obvious to me.

If Zaha leaves then Mr Hodgson must follow.

He has no clue how to use what is a fairly talented (if aging) squad to advantage.

I'd say even if Wilf stays new blood is desirable.

We would need an Allardyce-type from the old school
or a Tomas Frank from the new to get the very best of what we have. Someone not afraid (unlike Hodgson) to give youth a chance.

I do wonder if he approved the signing of Eze or if Freedman was anticipating a new manager or maybe a first signing for himself ?

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 03 Dec 20 2.23pm
Originally posted by Uphill Seems obvious to me. If Zaha leaves then Mr Hodgson must follow. He has no clue how to use what is a fairly talented (if aging) squad to advantage. I'd say even if Wilf stays new blood is desirable. We would need an Allardyce-type from the old school or a Tomas Frank from the new to get the very best of what we have. Someone not afraid (unlike Hodgson) to give youth a chance. I do wonder if he approved the signing of Eze or if Freedman was anticipating a new manager or maybe a first signing for himself ? Why would an '' Allardyce-type '' type get the best of what we have ? And you can't get much more '' Old School '' than Hodgson ! As for giving youth a chance, here's an extract from an Everton fanzine '' Sam Allardyce has never had a reputation for giving youth a chance to play at the various stops of his bottom-feeding managerial career.'' Tomas Frank is doing some good work in the Championship backed by a scouting model that has much to be admired. What he doesn't have is a track record of dealing with a highly experienced Premier League players or opponents. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 03 Dec 20 2.23pm

Originally posted by Uphill

Seems obvious to me.

If Zaha leaves then Mr Hodgson must follow.

He has no clue how to use what is a fairly talented (if aging) squad to advantage.

I'd say even if Wilf stays new blood is desirable.

We would need an Allardyce-type from the old school
or a Tomas Frank from the new to get the very best of what we have. Someone not afraid (unlike Hodgson) to give youth a chance.

I do wonder if he approved the signing of Eze or if Freedman was anticipating a new manager or maybe a first signing for himself ?

Why would an '' Allardyce-type '' type get the best of what we have ? And you can't get much more '' Old School '' than Hodgson !

As for giving youth a chance, here's an extract from an Everton fanzine '' Sam Allardyce has never had a reputation for giving youth a chance to play at the various stops of his bottom-feeding managerial career.''

Tomas Frank is doing some good work in the Championship backed by a scouting model that has much to be admired. What he doesn't have is a track record of dealing with a highly experienced Premier League players or opponents.

Old, Ungifted and White

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.04pm
Goodness grief. There is discussion about a possible successor to Roy Hodgson when he has a contract until the end of the season,we have only played 10 PL games and are hardly struggling in the relegation zone.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.04pm

Goodness grief.
There is discussion about a possible successor to Roy Hodgson when he has a contract until the end of the season,we have only played 10 PL games and are hardly struggling in the relegation zone.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 3.06pm
Originally posted by Willo Goodness grief. There is discussion about a possible successor to Roy Hodgson when he has a contract until the end of the season,we have only played 10 PL games and are hardly struggling in the relegation zone. Give it til the next game. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 3.06pm

Originally posted by Willo

Give it til the next game.

Red and Blue Army!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.23pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Give it til the next game. I don't sense that Roy Hodgson is under any pressure and given his record at the club, there is faith in him to preserve our PL status. Edited by Willo (03 Dec 2020 3.27pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.23pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Give it til the next game.

I don't sense that Roy Hodgson is under any pressure and given his record at the club, there is faith in him to preserve our PL status.

Edited by Willo (03 Dec 2020 3.27pm)

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 3.27pm
Originally posted by Willo I don't sense that Roy Hodgson is under any pressure and given his record at the club, there is faith in him to ensure that we are still in the PL next season. I won't be holding back if it's another sh1t performance. Nor will plenty of others. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 3.27pm

Originally posted by Willo

I don't sense that Roy Hodgson is under any pressure and given his record at the club, there is faith in him to ensure that we are still in the PL next season.

I won't be holding back if it's another sh1t performance. Nor will plenty of others.

Red and Blue Army!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.34pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I won't be holding back if it's another sh1t performance. Nor will plenty of others. Should we be defeated on the back of an abject performance I am sure there will be vesuvian eruptions with nostrils flared like angry bullocks. HOL will be a boil akin to burning milk with Roy Hodgson on the end of unrelenting invective and facing shot and shell. Edited by Willo (03 Dec 2020 3.34pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.34pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I won't be holding back if it's another sh1t performance. Nor will plenty of others.

Should we be defeated on the back of an abject performance I am sure there will be vesuvian eruptions with nostrils flared like angry bullocks.
HOL will be a boil akin to burning milk with Roy Hodgson on the end of unrelenting invective and facing shot and shell.

Edited by Willo (03 Dec 2020 3.34pm)

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 3.38pm
Originally posted by Willo Should we be defeated on the back of an abject performance I am sure there will be vesuvian eruptions with nostrils flared like angry bullocks. HOL will be a boil akin to burning milk with Roy Hodgson on the end of unrelenting invective and facing shot and shell. Edited by Willo (03 Dec 2020 3.34pm) There are rumblings now, and eventually there will be a full fan reaction. The results are not good enough, combined with a style from yesteryear. I'm surprised we use Inside Forwards, I thought this too fashionable. Anything to remain narrow and track back, I guess. Nil all will not placate me this week. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Dec 20 3.38pm

Originally posted by Willo

Edited by Willo (03 Dec 2020 3.34pm)

There are rumblings now, and eventually there will be a full fan reaction. The results are not good enough, combined with a style from yesteryear. I'm surprised we use Inside Forwards, I thought this too fashionable. Anything to remain narrow and track back, I guess. Nil all will not placate me this week.

Red and Blue Army!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.56pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC There are rumblings now, and eventually there will be a full fan reaction. The results are not good enough, combined with a style from yesteryear. I'm surprised we use Inside Forwards, I thought this too fashionable. Anything to remain narrow and track back, I guess. Nil all will not placate me this week. I accept two exceedingly disappointing results against Burnley and Newcastle. Against Burnley we dominated the second half and just never took our chances and of course we gifted them an early goal. Againt Newcastle, apart from the first 20 mins we were the better side but once again we had problems in front of goal and individually we were found wanting in defence for their goals. We have an aged squad with many players in the 'Twilight' of their careers and past their peak.We lack vibrancy and energy and of course our failings in front of goal have been well documented. We cannot play open,expansive football that perhaps many of our supporters crave.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Dec 20 3.56pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I accept two exceedingly disappointing results against Burnley and Newcastle.
Against Burnley we dominated the second half and just never took our chances and of course we gifted them an early goal.
Againt Newcastle, apart from the first 20 mins we were the better side but once again we had problems in front of goal and individually we were found wanting in defence for their goals.

We have an aged squad with many players in the 'Twilight' of their careers and past their peak.We lack vibrancy and energy and of course our failings in front of goal have been well documented.
We cannot play open,expansive football that perhaps many of our supporters crave.

grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 03 Dec 20 4.01pm
Originally posted by NEILLO Why would an '' Allardyce-type '' type get the best of what we have ? And you can't get much more '' Old School '' than Hodgson ! As for giving youth a chance, here's an extract from an Everton fanzine '' Sam Allardyce has never had a reputation for giving youth a chance to play at the various stops of his bottom-feeding managerial career.'' Tomas Frank is doing some good work in the Championship backed by a scouting model that has much to be admired. What he doesn't have is a track record of dealing with a highly experienced Premier League players or opponents. Referring to Big Sam I think the original poster is getting at the old school managers do use players strengths talent and very good at motivating plus like to control whats happening at the club (Roy has had no interest in any of those hes old but remember he was part of the chummy FA so has switched) Just listen to Big Sam speak he is complete opposite of Roy he clearly states ball must go forward keeping the ball and side or back passing is waste of time it only increases stats nothing else. People like to accuse many managers of not giving youth a chance Roy was the same he was forced into having to otherwise he wouldn't of and I can understand why some managers wouldn't if you at a club with a lot of talented players why would you leave them out you want to win, the other thing is you need to have the talented youth to begin with to play if it was so easy everyone would be doing it. Frank has been forced into that position which is why he is doing it like that if you had giving him lots of £ to spend he would be doing just that and correct it's all well doing it for a short time in Championship with a team that doesn't have great expectations but stepping up to best league in the world then dealing with these players is different matter (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]

grumpymort

US/Thailand/UK 03 Dec 20 4.01pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

Why would an '' Allardyce-type '' type get the best of what we have ? And you can't get much more '' Old School '' than Hodgson !

Referring to Big Sam I think the original poster is getting at the old school managers do use players strengths talent and very good at motivating plus like to control whats happening at the club (Roy has had no interest in any of those hes old but remember he was part of the chummy FA so has switched)

Just listen to Big Sam speak he is complete opposite of Roy he clearly states ball must go forward keeping the ball and side or back passing is waste of time it only increases stats nothing else.

People like to accuse many managers of not giving youth a chance Roy was the same he was forced into having to otherwise he wouldn't of and I can understand why some managers wouldn't if you at a club with a lot of talented players why would you leave them out you want to win,

the other thing is you need to have the talented youth to begin with to play if it was so easy everyone would be doing it.

Frank has been forced into that position which is why he is doing it like that if you had giving him lots of £ to spend he would be doing just that and correct it's all well doing it for a short time in Championship with a team that doesn't have great expectations but stepping up to best league in the world then dealing with these players is different matter

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