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Belmont Flag 10 Dec 20 4.34pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Has it wrecked your life or has it made you stronger?

I have always found that adversity has made me stronger.

the point of your question is?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 20 4.41pm

Originally posted by Belmont

the point of your question is?

My point is that what people say to you won't kill you but it will give you a much thicker skin.

I'm glad my skin has been thickened. I wouldn't want it any other way. That's not to say that I approve of abusing people, but since we don't live in an ideal world, I'm compensated by being better able to handle other people's f***wittery.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 10 Dec 20 4.47pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

We, our, they...

I was born in this country mate, members of my family were brought over here to prop up the healthcare system, and to fight for this country in the war, I've paid tax for as long as I've been able to, it's as much mine as it is yours.

What it is that "they" used to say that "they" need to change, to do the same?

I have never questioned your right to be here nor do I have any idea who you are or where you are originally from.

All I’m saying is that indigenous Brits have had to adapt over the last 50 years to ensure the sensibilities of immigrants from many different countries were not ridden over roughshod. It has been a long and difficult period of our development as a country, however we are now probably the most diverse place in the world and yet there are still those who who want to belittle old whitey for being stuck in the past racists.

I do not approve of racism despite what you probably think about me however I believe in respect between people sharing this soil we live on and I firmly believe respect is not a one way street. I’ll start showing more respect for all in this country when they stop stabbing and shooting each other. This never used to happen when I was a child.

 

Belmont Flag 10 Dec 20 4.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My point is that what people say to you won't kill you but it will give you a much thicker skin.

I'm glad my skin has been thickened. I wouldn't want it any other way. That's not to say that I approve of abusing people, but since we don't live in an ideal world, I'm compensated by being better able to handle other people's f***wittery.

I don't cry into my pillow at night if that helps

 

Belmont Flag 10 Dec 20 4.58pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I have never questioned your right to be here nor do I have any idea who you are or where you are originally from.

All I’m saying is that indigenous Brits have had to adapt over the last 50 years to ensure the sensibilities of immigrants from many different countries were not ridden over roughshod. It has been a long and difficult period of our development as a country, however we are now probably the most diverse place in the world and yet there are still those who who want to belittle old whitey for being stuck in the past racists.

I do not approve of racism despite what you probably think about me however I believe in respect between people sharing this soil we live on and I firmly believe respect is not a one way street. I’ll start showing more respect for all in this country when they stop stabbing and shooting each other. This never used to happen when I was a child.

So who don't you respect the actual people who are carrying out these violent acts, surely applies to all criminality.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 10 Dec 20 5.44pm

Originally posted by Belmont

So who don't you respect the actual people who are carrying out these violent acts, surely applies to all criminality.

I don’t approve of any criminality. Not sure of your point. Is it not true that violent crime has increased as the country has become more diverse? Happy to be told I am wrong.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 20 6.28pm

Originally posted by Belmont

I don't cry into my pillow at night if that helps

So ultimately, you have learned to handle abuse just like many of us have.
Whether you get insulted for being Black, Asian, Mexican, fat, thin, tall, short, ugly, smelly, gay, Irish, stupid, poor ,rich or anything else someone can think of. In the end you have to laugh it off.
As soon as one get angry or upset and reacts, they have lost. They become the victim. They can even end up doing hard time for reacting with violence.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 6.39pm)

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 6.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My point is that what people say to you won't kill you but it will give you a much thicker skin.

I'm glad my skin has been thickened. I wouldn't want it any other way. That's not to say that I approve of abusing people, but since we don't live in an ideal world, I'm compensated by being better able to handle other people's f***wittery.

Wow. You had me fooled.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Dec 20 6.34pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wow. You had me fooled.

Thought you would recognise that.

Edited by Spiderman (10 Dec 2020 6.34pm)

Edited by Spiderman (10 Dec 2020 6.35pm)

Edited by Spiderman (10 Dec 2020 6.36pm)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 20 6.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wow. You had me fooled.

Apparently, fooling you isn't that hard.

If you can find examples of my abuse please provide them, and until you do, refrain from your insinuations.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Dec 20 8.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So ultimately, you have learned to handle abuse just like many of us have.
Whether you get insulted for being Black, Asian, Mexican, fat, thin, tall, short, ugly, smelly, gay, Irish, stupid, poor ,rich or anything else someone can think of. In the end you have to laugh it off.
As soon as one get angry or upset and reacts, they have lost. They become the victim. They can even end up doing hard time for reacting with violence.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 6.39pm)

Nope hrolf, unless you are of an ethnic make up you cannot possibly be offended by abuse unless its racist abuse. Load of bollox. People are people and we all have feelings.

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 10 Dec 20 8.35pm

Originally posted by glazedallover


it wasn't Barnes Wallis' dog. It was Guy Gibson's.

had to change it for the film, things are different these days, but changing history???

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Dec 20 8.51pm

Originally posted by the silurian

had to change it for the film, things are different these days, but changing history???

Haven’t seen the film for some time but have they recently changed the name? Sure that was the name in the original

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 20 8.56pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Nope hrolf, unless you are of an ethnic make up you cannot possibly be offended by abuse unless its racist abuse. Load of bollox. People are people and we all have feelings.

Yeah, this is an issue I have with the racial abuse thing.
Surely an abuser looks for something that they think will hurt you. That could be anything and it's impact must depend on your strength of character.

When I hear people losing it over racial abuse, I just wonder if they have any backbone. I'm sure many people have experienced abuse of all sorts and you just have to get on with it. I don't see too many fat or bald people forming militant groups or taking a knee about it and I don't believe that there is a special emotion exclusively reserved for racial abuse.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 8.56pm)

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Dec 20 9.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yeah, this is an issue I have with the racial abuse thing.
Surely an abuser looks for something that they think will hurt you. That could be anything and it's impact must depend on your strength of character.

When I hear people losing it over racial abuse, I just wonder if they have any backbone. I'm sure many people have experienced abuse of all sorts and you just have to get on with it. I don't see too many fat or bald people forming militant groups or taking a knee about it and I don't believe that there is a special emotion exclusively reserved for racial abuse.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Dec 2020 8.56pm)

Wait for the you dont know what slavery did line.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 9.07pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Haven’t seen the film for some time but have they recently changed the name? Sure that was the name in the original

It's edited out of the film but also the memorial has been changed.

 


Red and Blue Army!

CrazyBadger Flag Ware 11 Dec 20 9.31am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Re-read what I said.
There is a big difference between treating someone differently and prejudice. I stumbled across a thread in here talking about Palace's first black player, is it racist to celebrate that? Because that would be treating someone differently because of their race, as per your and Stirling's definition. Definitely not illegal.

And yes, I have had the barber example happen to me. Took zero offence to it either.

As far as I see It, It only becomes racist once someone is offended by it, regardless of The intent in which it was said. Sure, if it was intended to be racist, then it's more likely for it to be offensive to someone. but that does not mean that just because no racist intent was used that someone will not take offence, and deem it racist.

If someone else went to your barber shop and got offended by being asked to try another barbers, would it be racist then?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Dec 20 9.45am

This guy wants to justify his racism based on semantics.

He doesn't seem to realise that treating people differently due to their race is literally racism.

How he wishes to describe it or feels about it is immaterial and as stated pure semantics.

That some races might benefit from racism over others is not in dispute. As that's the whole point of it.

It would be quite nature for them to then wish to redefine or re-describe.

I just prefer honesty.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Dec 2020 10.07am)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Dec 20 9.45am

A black friend of mine asked to borrow my hair clippers recently. (barbers have all been shut) I always cut my own hair, just shave it off (skinhead as I'm bald). I told him my clippers aren't that strong as it's obvious his hair is miles tougher than mine. I still leant him them. They came back broken.
Am I racist, are the clippers racist, are the people that make the clippers racist? All I know is I need new clippers. Santa will provide.

 


Red and Blue Army!

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 11 Dec 20 9.57am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Haven’t seen the film for some time but have they recently changed the name? Sure that was the name in the original

in the remake its changed, different times! My mother took a reel of cotton to the shop to try and match the colour, the shop assistant was deeply offended(she said) as the colour on the spool was n****r brown! The nspool is over 40 years old!

 

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