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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 6.12pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Eastern Ukraine is ethnically Russian. Let Putin keep it. The aggressive evil empire is the EU. Undemocratic , belligerent and owned by vested insiders. Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Cos I would rather drink Russian vodka and cheer from the sidelines [Tweet Link] Nice that you can find so much enjoyment in this invasion. And the Russian causalities too. Absolutely pointless waste of life at the behest of greedy cowards. edit: apparently filmed near an airfield, so I guess if they'd been taken out it's just 'collateral damage' and back to cheering? Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 7.31pm)
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BlueJay

UK 24 Feb 22 6.12pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Eastern Ukraine is ethnically Russian.

Let Putin keep it.

The aggressive evil empire is the EU. Undemocratic , belligerent and owned by vested insiders.

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Cos I would rather drink Russian vodka and cheer from the sidelines

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Nice that you can find so much enjoyment in this invasion.

And the Russian causalities too. Absolutely pointless waste of life at the behest of greedy cowards.

edit: apparently filmed near an airfield, so I guess if they'd been taken out it's just 'collateral damage' and back to cheering?

Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 7.31pm)

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 24 Feb 22 6.14pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Anti-war protests break out across Russia despite attempts to stifle them - [Link] Sounds like they've per-emptively arrested lots of people, and many others right now (several hundred so far) for peacefully daring to hold a fair minded view (oh such freedom..). But still some are willing to let their feelings be known. Good for them. Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 5.47pm) Not unlike the 'Insulate Britain' protesters, who were eventually dealt with by the law. ...and at 7pm, it will be 10 minutes of Hate, where a photo of Putin will be shown and we can all boo and deride it. "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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Originally posted by BlueJay

Anti-war protests break out across Russia despite attempts to stifle them - [Link]

Sounds like they've per-emptively arrested lots of people, and many others right now (several hundred so far) for peacefully daring to hold a fair minded view (oh such freedom..). But still some are willing to let their feelings be known. Good for them.

Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 5.47pm)

Not unlike the 'Insulate Britain' protesters, who were eventually dealt with by the law.
...and at 7pm, it will be 10 minutes of Hate, where a photo of Putin will be shown and we can all boo and deride it.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 6.16pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Not unlike the 'Insulate Britain' protesters, who were eventually dealt with by the law. ...and at 7pm, it will be 10 minutes of Hate, where a photo of Putin will be shown and we can all boo and deride it. Certainly, there's an argument on what protect can achieve, and also more and more encroachments and restrictions here and abroad on even being able to do so anyway.
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BlueJay

UK 24 Feb 22 6.16pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Certainly, there's an argument on what protect can achieve, and also more and more encroachments and restrictions here and abroad on even being able to do so anyway.

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Spiderman Horsham 24 Feb 22 6.31pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 You will just have to get off your arse and question things. Here you go Steeley, your hero’s [Link] [Link] Edited by Spiderman (24 Feb 2022 6.34pm)
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Horsham 24 Feb 22 6.31pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

You will just have to get off your arse and question things.

Here you go Steeley, your hero’s

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Edited by Spiderman (24 Feb 2022 6.34pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 24 Feb 22 6.36pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Here you go Steeley, your hero’s [Link] [Link] Edited by Spiderman (24 Feb 2022 6.34pm) He's not my hero, you are.
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steeleye20

Croydon 24 Feb 22 6.36pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Here you go Steeley, your hero’s

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Edited by Spiderman (24 Feb 2022 6.34pm)

He's not my hero, you are.

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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 6.43pm
Something tells me that the initial invasion may appear to be far more 'mission accomplished' than it really is. Good luck coping with guerilla warfare for the foreseeable. Combined with tough sanctions, the jury is still out on Putin's move. What can be said though is that the perception of him is well deserved. Hopefully some of those around him at similarly minded.
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UK 24 Feb 22 6.43pm

Something tells me that the initial invasion may appear to be far more 'mission accomplished' than it really is. Good luck coping with guerilla warfare for the foreseeable. Combined with tough sanctions, the jury is still out on Putin's move. What can be said though is that the perception of him is well deserved. Hopefully some of those around him at similarly minded.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 24 Feb 22 6.46pm
A lot of information on the TV channels and other meeja outlets. A lot of it is unverifiable photos and footage of events. I find the commentaries to the coverage almost 'hysterical' in their attempts to whip up public sympathy. I'm not saying aggressive events aren't happening. Just there is currently a lot of speculative stuff out there, as with any wartime situation where information is confused in the early stages. When i get really worried, I was thinking of a trip to Amsterdam. But obviously overseas travel to Europe will be riskier. I might have to book a few sessions with local escorts to get my rocks off before Armageddon comes. "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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A lot of information on the TV channels and other meeja outlets.
A lot of it is unverifiable photos and footage of events. I find the commentaries to the coverage almost 'hysterical' in their attempts to whip up public sympathy.
I'm not saying aggressive events aren't happening. Just there is currently a lot of speculative stuff out there, as with any wartime situation where information is confused in the early stages.

When i get really worried, I was thinking of a trip to Amsterdam. But obviously overseas travel to Europe will be riskier.
I might have to book a few sessions with local escorts to get my rocks off before Armageddon comes.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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Matov 24 Feb 22 6.47pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Something tells me that the initial invasion may appear to be far more 'mission accomplished' than it really is. Good luck coping with guerilla warfare for the foreseeable. Problem with that is you are assuming that the Russians are going to occupy areas that have a majority population who don't want them there. Same language, same religion, same cultural sensibilities. Russia is not going to occupy the whole of Ukraine. That would be utter madness. But taking effective control of the parts of it where the population probably see them as liberators? A different matter. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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24 Feb 22 6.47pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Something tells me that the initial invasion may appear to be far more 'mission accomplished' than it really is. Good luck coping with guerilla warfare for the foreseeable.

Problem with that is you are assuming that the Russians are going to occupy areas that have a majority population who don't want them there.

Same language, same religion, same cultural sensibilities. Russia is not going to occupy the whole of Ukraine. That would be utter madness. But taking effective control of the parts of it where the population probably see them as liberators? A different matter.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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BlueJay UK 24 Feb 22 6.56pm
Originally posted by Matov Problem with that is you are assuming that the Russians are going to occupy areas that have a majority population who don't want them there. Same language, same religion, same cultural sensibilities. Russia is not going to occupy the whole of Ukraine. That would be utter madness. But taking effective control of the parts of it where the population probably see them as liberators? A different matter. Time will no doubt tell. I can see this panning out in a number of ways, most of them bundled with plenty of misery for innocent citizens just trying to life a decent life.
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BlueJay

UK 24 Feb 22 6.56pm

Originally posted by Matov

Problem with that is you are assuming that the Russians are going to occupy areas that have a majority population who don't want them there.

Time will no doubt tell. I can see this panning out in a number of ways, most of them bundled with plenty of misery for innocent citizens just trying to life a decent life.

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Spiderman Horsham 24 Feb 22 6.58pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 He's not my hero, you are. I know
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Spiderman

Horsham 24 Feb 22 6.58pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

He's not my hero, you are.

I know

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georgenorman 24 Feb 22 7.30pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I know Actually, his real hero was Robet Mugabe - that tells you how deranged he really is.
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georgenorman

24 Feb 22 7.30pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I know

Actually, his real hero was Robet Mugabe - that tells you how deranged he really is.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Feb 22 7.38pm
Originally posted by Matov Problem with that is you are assuming that the Russians are going to occupy areas that have a majority population who don't want them there. Same language, same religion, same cultural sensibilities. Russia is not going to occupy the whole of Ukraine. That would be utter madness. But taking effective control of the parts of it where the population probably see them as liberators? A different matter. A bit like all of Europe East of Berlin. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 24 Feb 22 7.38pm

Originally posted by Matov

Problem with that is you are assuming that the Russians are going to occupy areas that have a majority population who don't want them there.

A bit like all of Europe East of Berlin.

COYP

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