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 madcap_v2  SE25 / Ibiza 11 Dec 20 11.20am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This guy wants to justify his racism based on semantics. He doesn't seem to realise that treating people differently due to their race is literally racism. How he wishes to describe it or feels about it is immaterial and as stated pure semantics. That some races might benefit from racism over others is not in dispute. As that's the whole point of it. It would be quite nature for them to then wish to redefine or re-describe. I just prefer honesty.
I came into this thread to read about what other people thought about the Millwall incident, I gave my view and perspective, as a black man on this and other issues but for some reason, you are deflecting your own closeted (or not so closeted) racism towards me. Please, do point me in the direction of my own racism? Do you not understand the power dynamics and dehumanising involved in racism? Treating people differently (and in my example, positively), is not racism.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 20 11.42am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I came into this thread to read about what other people thought about the Millwall incident, I gave my view and perspective, as a black man on this and other issues but for some reason, you are deflecting your own closeted (or not so closeted) racism towards me. Please, do point me in the direction of my own racism? Do you not understand the power dynamics and dehumanising involved in racism? Treating people differently (and in my example, positively), is not racism. Well said. I agree with all you say here. Let's now see just how honest he really is.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Dec 20 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I came into this thread to read about what other people thought about the Millwall incident, I gave my view and perspective, as a black man on this and other issues but for some reason, you are deflecting your own closeted (or not so closeted) racism towards me. Please, do point me in the direction of my own racism? Do you not understand the power dynamics and dehumanising involved in racism? Treating people differently (and in my example, positively), is not racism. Are you having a laugh? You are behaving in a way that exactly demonstrates what he is talking about. Anyone who disagrees with your way of thinking, you call a racist. So that must make you a racist too right?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Dec 20 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Well said. I agree with all you say here. Let's now see just how honest he really is. You don't know what honest is.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 11 Dec 20 1.56pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Well said. I agree with all you say here. Let's now see just how honest he really is. Get a room Or better still, kneel in front of him, with your mouth open Edited by Tom-the-eagle (11 Dec 2020 1.56pm)
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| Eaglecoops CR3 11 Dec 20 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Get a room Or better still, kneel in front of him, with your mouth open Edited by Tom-the-eagle (11 Dec 2020 1.56pm) Don’t take the bait Tom. The guy needs oxygen to breathe and this is the only place he can get it. He is contrary for contrary’s sake and I refuse to reply to him directly any more.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 11 Dec 20 2.22pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Are you having a laugh? You are behaving in a way that exactly demonstrates what he is talking about. Anyone who disagrees with your way of thinking, you call a racist. So that must make you a racist too right? He disagrees with my views on racism and equality, it would seem. Which would make him a racist in my eyes, seeing as I'm all for racial equality, why I have no issue with taking the knee or the increased focus on racial equality in sport and the media. Anyone who disagrees with racial equality, is a racist. But why are you speaking for Stirling anyway? Do you two follow eachother on every thread on here? I would suggest you go and read up what racism is, you're not making any modicum of sense. But then you did liken race to being bald or fat.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 11 Dec 20 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Get a room Or better still, kneel in front of him, with your mouth open Edited by Tom-the-eagle (11 Dec 2020 1.56pm) Weird, weird place this is...
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Dec 20 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
He disagrees with my views on racism and equality, it would seem. Which would make him a racist in my eyes, seeing as I'm all for racial equality, why I have no issue with taking the knee or the increased focus on racial equality in sport and the media. Anyone who disagrees with racial equality, is a racist. But why are you speaking for Stirling anyway? Do you two follow eachother on every thread on here? I would suggest you go and read up what racism is, you're not making any modicum of sense. But then you did liken race to being bald or fat. You said if he disagrees with YOU he’s a racist in YOUR eyes. Nobody here is disagreeing on racial equality. Before that you said you have no issue with an increased focus in racial equality in sport and the media. But you decide what it is and if people don’t agree you conclude that... This is one of the problems today. I caught a few minutes of QT last night hearing MP’s conclude the football supporters are all racist. I can’t see how bending knees is going to change anything of any worth or benefit to individuals so I’m struggling to see the point. You may have noticed F1 drivers aren’t doing it and rugby players in a sport that’s considered more intelligent are gradually stopping as well. I’d be more concerned that things that matter changed fairly early rather than bending the knee.
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| W12 11 Dec 20 2.48pm | |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
He disagrees with my views on racism and equality, it would seem. Which would make him a racist in my eyes, seeing as I'm all for racial equality, why I have no issue with taking the knee or the increased focus on racial equality in sport and the media. Anyone who disagrees with racial equality, is a racist. But why are you speaking for Stirling anyway? Do you two follow eachother on every thread on here? I would suggest you go and read up what racism is, you're not making any modicum of sense. But then you did liken race to being bald or fat. And you cannot see the contradiction in that statement. If I tried to set up any form of group purely based on white English identity how to you think I would get on? e.g. the equivalent of the Black Police Federation, the Board of Deputies of British Jews or the Muslim Council of Britain - there are literally hundreds of examples of these. It's funny how racism only exists in countries with a majority of white European people isn't it? It's almost as if the whole premise of "racism" is just to shut up white Europeans and make them compliant.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 11 Dec 20 3.15pm |
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Originally posted by W12
And you cannot see the contradiction in that statement. If I tried to set up any form of group purely based on white English identity how to you think I would get on? e.g. the equivalent of the Black Police Federation, the Board of Deputies of British Jews or the Muslim Council of Britain - there are literally hundreds of examples of these. It's funny how racism only exists in countries with a majority of white European people isn't it? It's almost as if the whole premise of "racism" is just to shut up white Europeans and make them compliant. Great, only none of this was part of any point I made. Make this a general point, not a response to me, cheers. Round and round in circles we go on here, there's not much point in discussing really, minds are made up.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 11 Dec 20 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Apparently Neil Warnock has said that Middles borough will not be taking the knee tomorrow. Interesting to see if this happens and what the meeja make of it. There are a hell of a lot of EFL & below who are going to do the same, or not, if you catch my drift. On the other hand, the EPL apparently have been 'instructed' to continue, because of TV revenues being affected, a very worrying scenario if you ask me.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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BlueJay  UK 11 Dec 20 3.44pm |
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A ten on one pile-in might not be the best way of communicating.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 20 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You don't know what honest is. I very sincerely do. I say things as I see them as clearly as I can express them. That doesn't mean I will always be right only that you will know what I believe. When someone says they prefer honesty, which has to be the default position for everyone, then what they are really doing is saying that someone else isn't being honest. Which is quite an insult. Which you have repeated. You don't have to agree with someone to regard them as honest. I regard Corbyn as honest but I most certainly don't agree with him.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 20 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Weird, weird place this is... That it is. Disturbing too on occasions but if you want to understand the mindset of this particular subgroup of English society it is also educational. You'll need stamina, a strong constitution and a rock-solid back to withstand the constant torrent of abuse if you are to stick around for long. Most don't. Which is why there are only a handful of normal people here. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Dec 2020 5.16pm)
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| JRW2 Dulwich 11 Dec 20 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That it is. Disturbing too on occasions but if you want to understand the mindset of thi particular subgroup of English society it is also educational. You'll need stamina, a strong constitution and a rock-solid back to withstand the constant torrent of abuse if you are to stick around for long. Most don't. Which is why there are only a handful of normal people here. The arrogance and complacency of this man are almost beyond belief.
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| W12 11 Dec 20 4.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That it is. Disturbing too on occasions but if you want to understand the mindset of this particular subgroup of English society it is also educational. You'll need stamina, a strong constitution and a rock-solid back to withstand the constant torrent of abuse if you are to stick around for long. Most don't. Which is why there are only a handful of normal people here. You mean people that refuse to be cuckolds?
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 11 Dec 20 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That it is. Disturbing too on occasions but if you want to understand the mindset of thi particular subgroup of English society it is also educational. You'll need stamina, a strong constitution and a rock-solid back to withstand the constant torrent of abuse if you are to stick around for long. Most don't. Which is why there are only a handful of normal people here.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Dec 20 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
He disagrees with my views on racism and equality, it would seem. Which would make him a racist in my eyes, seeing as I'm all for racial equality, why I have no issue with taking the knee or the increased focus on racial equality in sport and the media. Anyone who disagrees with racial equality, is a racist. But why are you speaking for Stirling anyway? Do you two follow eachother on every thread on here? I would suggest you go and read up what racism is, you're not making any modicum of sense. But then you did liken race to being bald or fat.
When I worked in Norbury in the 90's I met with many Black people on a daily basis and not one time did anyone ever mention or engage in racism on either side. This current climate has been artificially created to play on people's fears and resentments.
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