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Originally posted by cryrst
There is a picture going around of the crater and damage it caused. Are there any images of the actual hospital building damaged, all I've seen is a damaged car park and cars.
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Looks like Al-Jazera are confirming the rocket was fired from Gaza. Not Hamas but another terrorist group
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
We've never seen a Hamas rocket cause this kind of destruction and there have been plenty of misfires previously - if they had this kind of firepower, why have we never seen it before? Failed rocket launches don't kill 500 people. The Israeli's issued an evacuation order against the hospital, initially claimed it was a bombing they'd carried out(in a since deleted tweet) and have plenty of previous in terms of denying things they've done. As you say, we don't know for sure either way, but I think one story is certainly a lot more believable. You are right, it appears it was not a Hamas rocket but one fired by another terrorist organisation in Gaza.
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None of us know who is responsible for the hospital attack. It could have been Hamas, deliberate or accidental. It could also be the Israelis. They literally warned that hospitals have 24 hours to evacuate...everyone seems to be forgetting that. When people talk about animals and flattening places then I don't think they suddenly become choosey. But again, there is no way to know....it's going to be a bloodbath regardless and Israel will probably head into Gaza as soon as Biden leaves.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
LOLE Hyperbolic much? I think you need to do some detailed reading about how WWII ended. I have no issue with drastic action, none at all, so long as it’s proportionate and protective of civilian lives wherever possible. Clearly you do not agree with that view? Hamas attacks, Dresden and the depth and intensity of the ongoing Israeli response are neither proportionate or protective. As for peace - what are you trying to come across as there, some sort of preacher? An enlightened lecturer in the profound? Pfft One can accept the folly and inevitability of war and still criticise how others choose to engage in it. The two things are not incompatible - otherwise you’re saying unless you’re some sort of peace loving hippy you can’t pass comment. Bit odd No, you are saying it. I have said what I posted. You keep stroking your peace pipe, meanwhile the conflict will continue whether you think it's disproportionate or not.
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I have no more certainty over the hospital explosion than anyone else, other than that someone is lying. This is a propaganda war as well as a hot one. Two thoughts strike me. The Americans claim to have surveillance evidence that shows the rocket was fired by a jihadist group separate to Hamas. If so will they share that evidence with the media and allow it to be independently verified? Secondly did a rocket cause the explosion or did a small rocket hit an arms dump? It is believed Hamas store weapons and munitions at schools and hospitals believing them to be safe there.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No, you are saying it. I have said what I posted. You keep stroking your peace pipe, meanwhile the conflict will continue whether you think it's disproportionate or not. Nope - that’s what you said - maybe word it better next time? Haha peace pipe - again, I have no issue at all with military action. Just has to be proportionate. Maybe for you nationalists anything goes in the name of the king but I prefer to be more balanced. aaaand finishes with the parrot. Same old same old. If that’s your main concern then post on a thread suited to it rather than shoehorning the same old s*** into each and every thread regardless of subject. Back to your pie and mash.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Nope - that’s what you said - maybe word it better next time? Haha peace pipe - again, I have no issue at all with military action. Just has to be proportionate. Maybe for you nationalists anything goes in the name of the king but I prefer to be more balanced. aaaand finishes with the parrot. Same old same old. If that’s your main concern then post on a thread suited to it rather than shoehorning the same old s*** into each and every thread regardless of subject. Back to your pie and mash. Only a total twit tells someone else what they mean. Incredible arrogance. The same old s***, as you put it, will bite us on the arse very soon, and it will be thanks to the kind of dumbasses that you support.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no more certainty over the hospital explosion than anyone else, other than that someone is lying. This is a propaganda war as well as a hot one. Two thoughts strike me. The Americans claim to have surveillance evidence that shows the rocket was fired by a jihadist group separate to Hamas. If so will they share that evidence with the media and allow it to be independently verified? Secondly did a rocket cause the explosion or did a small rocket hit an arms dump? It is believed Hamas store weapons and munitions at schools and hospitals believing them to be safe there. I would speculate that there is a strong possibility that Hamas were using the hospital to hide. That would explain an Israeli bomb. Of course, they cannot admit that.
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Maybe God is aiming for Gaza or Israel....or Brighton. Mind you, it's still officially smaller than my pen1s. [Tweet Link]
Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2023 10.53pm)
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Only a total twit tells someone else what they mean. Incredible arrogance. The same old s***, as you put it, will bite us on the arse very soon, and it will be thanks to the kind of dumbasses that you support. Meh. Word it better next time. It’s exactly what you meant The sky is always falling in according to you. Bore off to another thread and talk about the same old tripe. You’d be better suited to living on a tiny island, off grid, although even then you’d find something to gripe about. Probably the clouds. Ive no idea why you put yourself through such continual anguish, and no doubt, depression by living in this country. Globalism is going to win out. You and people like you need to work out a way to do well out of it rather than constantly whining about being left behind. At least I can accept that - you’re the one burying your head in the sand if you think change doesn’t create losers, we should all be harmoniously living in glorious isolation, yada yada. There will be more losers than ever as part of the transition to automation and a globalist economy. Nothing you can do to stop that - fight it and lose, or exploit it and win. That’s the reality, whether you like it or not. So shuffle off in your clogs before they pop and bleat about it on the appropriate thread. Edited by SW19 CPFC (18 Oct 2023 10.50pm)
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The latest video evidence from Channel 12 camera is fairly compelling. The rocket originated in Gaza and fell onto the hospital very soon after launch. As others have said, those with fixed views will not be influenced by this, and it matters little to the victims
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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