"Crucially, there is far more latitude for member states to apply restrictions to freedom of movement than is commonly appreciated. The Belgian authorities aggressively deport EU citizens who do not work and cannot support themselves. Under EU law, the UK authorities could do the same for EU citizens who have failed to find work after six months. Access to Spanish healthcare requires registering with the social security authorities and showing residence and identity documents. The German authorities, in an attempt to protect domestic pay deals, are tightening up access to the construction and other sectors by EU workers."

"Several EU leaders have told me of their irritation that UK politicians blame them for a decision taken in Westminster, not Brussels: opening up the UK labour market in 2004 to workers from central and eastern Europe. They point out that the UK’s non-contributory welfare benefits, unqualified access to healthcare and absence of administrative residence checks, mean that the UK takes a far more lax approach than they do."

But shhh no facts!!! Brexit means Brexit!!! Sovereignty!!!!! Getting our country back!!!!

We're the Arthur over ere!

The fact remains, that apart from a few exceptions, freedom of movement means that we have to accept the entire population of the EU coming here if they choose to. Yes, getting back sovereignty is worth any short-term problems.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

It is just the usual Remain blurring of the facts. A very small number of EU immigrations can be refused entry or be expelled, but the vast majority of the entire 743 million people in the EU can come here if the want and as an EU member we have to accept them. Yes, we should get out of UN (another failing organisation) rules and regulations that damage us too.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

I don't think we should be surprised the EU has power struggles like any large organisation.

The commission will have different pressures to achieve a result with the UK and its bad that the EU parliament does not appear to be involved and may be side-lined.

They have the final word for the EU after all.

The EU was lobbied into relaxing pollution laws regarding diesel cars by car manufacturers. When catalytic converters were introduced, they didn't work well for diesel powered cars but new technology allowed turbo diesel cars to be produced.

The only problem is that diesel is far dirtier than petrol. The result of the relaxed laws on diesel was that diesel car usage rocketed and cities became far more polluted. This in turn was also an underlying cause of the diesel emissions scandal a few years.

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The EU promoting itself as the bellwether of environmentalism is another lie perpetrated by its partisan supporters. The EU has, through allowing the proliferation of diesel cars to be used in its cities contributed to countless suffering health problems.

Bring on 2019 when we can make up our own minds as to what constitutes environmental policy in our country and not a diktat from Brussels, which was lobbied from Wolfsburg.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Part of the problem was scumbag Mandelson an oily career politician. Seen him personally, he really is all that's bad with the world.

Pro USA & Israel

I've done that already, years ago, recommend it to anyone. Go and live in a few other
countries (not simply go on holiday there) and you will realise what you've been missing out on, especially for your children. Visiting the UK several times a year only confirms that experience, it seems smaller, dirtier and the people more miserable on every trip back. It's funny seeing how many in the UK think they are the center of Europe. The real fact is the UK is very rarely mentioned in any conversations/discussions in other European countries.

Do it before you're too old and miserable!

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That's down to years of having a liberal/left establishment and being in the EU. Will get better now we are leaving that awful non-democratic capitalist price-rigging cartel.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

I still have a few friends in the UK, so I will still visit. Admittedly, the number is getting less as many have also left, so trips will be fewer in the coming years. Plenty of much, much nicer places to spend our money

It appears that Irexit is gaining traction:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02