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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 23 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And the end result is the same but in either case it's the bank making the decision. As they should. Who else ought to do it?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 23 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
My point was that Coutts viewed the opinions, which are not considered controversial by a percentage of the public, to be controversial - yes, it's their decision and one not a view shared by everybody. Doesn't need to be widely shared. Only determined as relevant by those responsible within the bank, who must have been given their reference points by management who in turn would have been guided by the Board.
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| Spiderman Horsham 05 Aug 23 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I do know that an enquiry into the closure of bank accounts by someone appointed by the FCA won’t be looking at Brexit but will have clear terms of reference and be expected to do their job objectively and professionally. Casting aspersions on them before they have even started has echoes from the USA. Not casting aspersions at all, just stating facts. If it is this person, he most certainly won’t be in the Farage camp.Glad you got the US in again
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Teddy Eagle  05 Aug 23 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As they should. Who else ought to do it? Your question at 10.19 in response to the article about debanking was: That doesn’t though specify who closed them. So...if not the bank then who else? We've gone from this not happening to it being due to reputational damage to Russian money and not being about political opinions to it being all about PEPs.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Aug 23 2.07pm |
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Farage was always stealing the pens. Simple as that.
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| Teddy Eagle 05 Aug 23 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Doesn't need to be widely shared. Only determined as relevant by those responsible within the bank, who must have been given their reference points by management who in turn would have been guided by the Board. A decision in which they had such faith that people lost their jobs within days of it being made public.
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| Teddy Eagle 05 Aug 23 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Farage was always stealing the pens. Simple as that. Only because he got fed up changing the ones he nicked from the EU to read Eugenics.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 23 2.45pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Not casting aspersions at all, just stating facts. If it is this person, he most certainly won’t be in the Farage camp.Glad you got the US in again That the enquiry will be run by someone whose alleged views on Brexit will affect their ability to do their job objectively? How is that a fact?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 23 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Natwest chairman has appointed a firm of lawyers to undertake an investigation into the de-banking of Nigel Farage, the most senior person at that firm described Brexit as racist, xenophobic and a tragedy. Am sure his report will be non partisan and objective. Natwest gets more risible by the day. Lawyers separate personal opinions from their professional obligations every day. Why should this be any different? They won’t be investigating Farage’s opinions. No need to do that, they are crystal clear. They will be investigating how, why and when Coutts took the actions they did and what steps need to be taken to avoid the damage they caused happening in the future.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Aug 23 3.03pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Doesn't need to be widely shared. Only determined as relevant by those responsible within the bank, who must have been given their reference points by management who in turn would have been guided by the Board. Yes - that’s what I said !
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 23 3.05pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Your question at 10.19 in response to the article about debanking was: That doesn’t though specify who closed them. So...if not the bank then who else? We've gone from this not happening to it being due to reputational damage to Russian money and not being about political opinions to it being all about PEPs. It was you who posted that question at 10.19! I answered later. Reputational damage and being a PEP:with controversial opinions are interrelated, in my opinion. The reference to Russian money isn’t directly involved, only that such rumours could possibly cause a bank sufficient concern as to justify additional scrutiny and for them to question the value of retaining the account.
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 georgenorman 05 Aug 23 3.07pm |
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This thread has less to do with the debanking of Farage and more to do with the debunking of Wisbelch.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Aug 23 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Yes - that’s what I said ! Great. We are in agreement then. Coutts had the right to close the account. Whether it was a wise decision is an entirely different question.
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| Teddy Eagle 05 Aug 23 3.29pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It was you who posted that question at 10.19! I answered later. Reputational damage and being a PEP:with controversial opinions are interrelated, in my opinion. The reference to Russian money isn’t directly involved, only that such rumours could possibly cause a bank sufficient concern as to justify additional scrutiny and for them to question the value of retaining the account. Referencing your post If nothing else this thread has, via the goalposts, proved that perpetual motion is not only possible but already exists.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Aug 23 4.08pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Great. We are in agreement then. Coutts had the right to close the account. Whether it was a wise decision is an entirely different question. We were never at odds over that point
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Aug 23 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It was you who posted that question at 10.19! I answered later. Reputational damage and being a PEP:with controversial opinions are interrelated, in my opinion. The reference to Russian money isn’t directly involved, only that such rumours could possibly cause a bank sufficient concern as to justify additional scrutiny and for them to question the value of retaining the account. The Russian Money allegation was made in the House of Commons by a fervent ' Remainer ' MP under Parliamentary Privilege. And of course, Farage denied receiving it. For that allegation to be made outside of that Privilege would have resulted in more work for Farage's lawyers. As I pointed out several posts ago, Coutts had downgraded Farage from a medium to low risk. There is no additional scrutiny required. You've said this before and I corrected you then. You can continue to spin it or play with words and indeed continue to proffer opinions that don't stack up with facts, that's your prerogative.
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| Spiderman Horsham 05 Aug 23 4.40pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That the enquiry will be run by someone whose alleged views on Brexit will affect their ability to do their job objectively? How is that a fact? I meant it was a fact regarding his comments about Brexiteers. If it is not that person I will apologise but if it is, can you categorically say his views will not have any bearing on his enquiry
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| Stirlingsays 05 Aug 23 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Referencing your post If nothing else this thread has, via the goalposts, proved that perpetual motion is not only possible but already exists. Indeed, it has an almost inexhaustible supply of waffle to power it.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Aug 23 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
This thread has less to do with the debanking of Farage and more to do with the debunking of Wisbelch. Very good.
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