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BlueJay Flag UK 19 Jan 21 9.01pm

Trump promoted N.M. official’s comment that ‘the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.’ Now the man is arrested in the Capitol riot - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/18/trump-promoted-his-comment-that-only-good-democrat-is-dead-democrat-now-he-is-arrested-storming-capitol/


"President Trump’s culpability for the attempted insurrection at the U.S. Capitol two weeks ago will be judged by U.S. senators in a looming impeachment trial — and possibly by the court system after he leaves the presidency.

Now a man with a personal connection to Trump — and whose violent rhetoric Trump promoted to the world — has been arrested in the riot.

Otero County, N.M., Commissioner Couy Griffin was arrested Sunday for illegally entering the Capitol on Jan. 6. Griffin, the head of a group called Cowboys for Trump, claims he got caught up with the crowd and didn’t actually enter the building, but the affidavit says video on his personal Facebook page showed him in restricted areas.

Griffin also pledged to return to Washington with guns for President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration Wednesday, and he alluded to the prospect of violence and another incursion into the offices of lawmakers. According to the affidavit, he said in a video posted after the Jan. 6 riot:

… We could have a 2nd Amendment rally on those same steps that we had that rally yesterday. You know, and if we do, then it’s gonna be a sad day, because there’s gonna be blood running out of that building. But at the end of the day, you mark my word, we will plant our flag on the desk of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Donald J. Trump if it boils down to it.

It’s not the first time Griffin has employed such violent rhetoric. He did so in May as well. And at the time, his message was promoted by Trump on Twitter.

In the video, Griffin said, “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.” He qualified in the video that he was only speaking metaphorically about politics.

Trump promoted the video by saying, “Thank you Cowboys. See you in New Mexico!

Anyone unable to appreciate Trump's role in this exists on a narrow scale between delusional and disingenuous.

Cue whataboutisms.


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BlueJay Flag UK 19 Jan 21 9.07pm

'Traitors Get Shot': Capitol Rioter Accused of Threatening Children if They Turned Him In - [Link]

"A member of a right-wing militia group who is accused of taking part in the attack on the Capitol allegedly threatened to shoot his children if they turned him in to authorities.

Guy Reffitt, of Wylie, Texas, is accused of obstruction of justice and unlawful entry in connection with the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6.

According to an affidavit signed by FBI special agent Thomas Ryan, Reffitt was seen at the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. washing eyes out with water after allegedly being hit with pepper spray while in the restricted area during the riot.


On January 16, FBI agents executed a search warrant on Reffitt's home. During the search, Reffitt's wife, juvenile daughter and adult male son were also present.

According to the affidavit, the son told authorities that Reffitt admitted to being in Washington on January 6 having "stormed the Capitol." On January 11, Reffitt told the family that he had to delete his Go Pro footage that he filmed on the day of the attack as the FBI were now watching him.

The son said that Reffitt told him that if he went to the police that his father would have no option but to "do what he had to do" for the country.

When the son asked if this was a threat, Reffitt replied, "Don't put words in my mouth." The son told the FBI he took Reffitt's comments to be a threat to his life.

Reffitt is alleged to have told his minor daughter that if she used her phone to tell her friends that he was at the Capitol he would "put a bullet" through it.

Reffitt's wife also told authorities that on January 11, her two children said Reffitt threatened them with words to the effect of: "If you turn me in, you're a traitor and you know what happens to traitors...traitors get shot."

The wife said she did not believe Reffitt would act on his words and that the children were more "disturbed" by his "extreme" statements.

The wife said Reffitt told her he was "trying to protect the family, and if someone was a traitor then that's what's going to happen."

Edited by BlueJay (19 Jan 2021 9.08pm)

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Jan 21 10.04pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So if someone is "white" and in their early 20s it follows that they must be a middle class "rent a mob" type? I don't doubt that many were activists who passionately care about issues but if any either looted or caused damage then they weren't. They were criminals using genuine protests as cover. Decent law-abiding citizens, who believe in democracy, will protest about injustice when it was as awful as that which happened to Floyd. They aren't though criminals. Law-abiding citizens don't break the law.

The fact that you don't see much support on the street in NY ought not be a surprise. It seems he isn't very popular there. I wonder why?


Trump in NYC is indeed unlikely to garner much support but a lot of the counties outside of NYCs five are extremely pro Rebublican, in fact if you take the NYC metropolitan area out of the equation the City carried the Democrats over the line especially in the Governors race. Very similar to Khan winning the London Mayoral race although the guy is an incompetent corrupt half wit

 


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AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 19 Jan 21 10.29pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

But not quite as corrupt as Trump or half the MP's though.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 19 Jan 21 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I suppose your interpretation of what "infiltration" means in these circumstances isn't mine. For me it implies a deliberate attempt by an opposing viewpoint to insert an activist. Not human failure.

I just think it’s interesting that you’re willing to ascribe some people’s failings to “infiltration” whilst regarding other’s as human error.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 10.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As stated before, all this is time measurable.

We will see what happens in the GOP and what it looks like in two years time.

Is that a promise?

You will wait for a full two years before posting any more illogical claims?

That would be a very welcome, if unlikely, development.

I won't be holding my breath but miracles do sometimes happen.

 


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matthau Flag South Croydon 19 Jan 21 10.54pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

No flag on the whitehouse tonight.

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matthau Flag South Croydon 19 Jan 21 10.55pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 11.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ok wimp.

Ok sophomaniac.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez


Trump in NYC is indeed unlikely to garner much support but a lot of the counties outside of NYCs five are extremely pro Rebublican, in fact if you take the NYC metropolitan area out of the equation the City carried the Democrats over the line especially in the Governors race. Very similar to Khan winning the London Mayoral race although the guy is an incompetent corrupt half wit

Democracy has a habit of working like that!

Compared to Trump, Khan is a paragon.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 11.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I just think it’s interesting that you’re willing to ascribe some people’s failings to “infiltration” whilst regarding other’s as human error.

As I don't it isn't interesting at all.

Where on earth do you get that idea from?

The people who might have infiltrated protests wouldn't have done so as a consequence of failure. If it happened it would have been a deliberate act.

Any Judge failing to meet the high standards required of them is very unlikely to have infiltrated. They have to work their way up the profession over many years and if they repeatedly fail then they will likely be thrown out.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 19 Jan 21 11.36pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I don't it isn't interesting at all.

Where on earth do you get that idea from?

The people who might have infiltrated protests wouldn't have done so as a consequence of failure. If it happened it would have been a deliberate act.

Any Judge failing to meet the high standards required of them is very unlikely to have infiltrated. They have to work their way up the profession over many years and if they repeatedly fail then they will likely be thrown out.

The point is that you make statements of absolute fact based on your understanding of unimpeachable sources whilst everyone else believes conspiracy theories also my original point about judges was an attempt to highlight how many things can be attributed to infiltration not an allegation but by all means carry on bloviating.

 

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