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Originally posted by Kermit8
So that's Boris who has just wasted £80mill on top of helping to usher in the Leave economic sh1tstorm to come. Thanks you floppy haired political buffoon. Boris or Ken or any other government - they are all very bad at projects and spending money.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Fortunately, private companies are so much better... no wait they're not. Its not what you spend, but what you get for what you spend. The difference is that private companies that get it wrong like that tend to go bankrupt and the efficient companies prosper. Government agencies just go on repeating the same mistakes endlessly with no consequences. (You now of course will say that the failing banks got bailed out. Yes they did, a questionable action by the government. Although they probably did need to safeguard ordinary peoples' money in those institutions.)
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The difference is that private companies that get it wrong like that tend to go bankrupt and the efficient companies prosper. Government agencies just go on repeating the same mistakes endlessly with no consequences. (You now of course will say that the failing banks got bailed out. Yes they did, a questionable action by the government. Although they probably did need to safeguard ordinary peoples' money in those institutions.) True, but then private companies also don't deliver the same kind of accountability that government agencies have to, as they're accountable to the electorate as well as law. As a rule I think Business tends to be more efficiently organised that government agencies - but that their employees (until recently) are generally worse off in terms of their jobs, and usually they're the ones who are accountable for business failures, or the desire to raise the share value (not all redundancy is about 'cutting losses' I do think that a percentage of the civil service is basically an outreach charity program for about 20-25% of its employees - who'd never cope outside of the civil service (having 'serious issues' that no private employer would take a risk on). Government agencies are accountable to the public - every four to five years, as the head of the department can be voted out of office. You don't get that for a CEO... Yeah Private Companies tend to be more efficient - but in terms of Employees, traditionally they get a better deal (decent wage, good pension, 'job for life', good training, promotion prospects etc even at the bottom end as an AO). You'd don't get that working in Tesco.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
So that's Boris who has just wasted £80mill on top of helping to usher in the Leave economic sh1tstorm to come. Thanks you floppy haired political buffoon. The trust seems to think otherwise.. "The trust blames the current mayor Sadiq Khan for not giving guarantees over maintenance"
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
True, but then private companies also don't deliver the same kind of accountability that government agencies have to, as they're accountable to the electorate as well as law. As a rule I think Business tends to be more efficiently organised that government agencies - but that their employees (until recently) are generally worse off in terms of their jobs, and usually they're the ones who are accountable for business failures, or the desire to raise the share value (not all redundancy is about 'cutting losses' I do think that a percentage of the civil service is basically an outreach charity program for about 20-25% of its employees - who'd never cope outside of the civil service (having 'serious issues' that no private employer would take a risk on). Government agencies are accountable to the public - every four to five years, as the head of the department can be voted out of office. You don't get that for a CEO... Yeah Private Companies tend to be more efficient - but in terms of Employees, traditionally they get a better deal (decent wage, good pension, 'job for life', good training, promotion prospects etc even at the bottom end as an AO). You'd don't get that working in Tesco. I generally agree with most of what you have said here. I've worked for public and private enterprises. The private companies were more efficient and dynamic with less dead wood. I worked for the Gas Board years ago, it was actually well run and delivered quality, but it was chronically over-staffed, there were people there who did about five minutes work a day, they simply had non-jobs. Mind you I did find that in a private insurance company, it was heavily associated with the church, which might explain it. Worked for Lewisham Council for a year or so. The place was an utter shambles with a Trotskyite, vegetarian, union branch secretary constantly trying to make it even more of a shambles. Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Aug 2017 3.15pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The failure of the garden bridge has been appalling and short shortsightedly depressing. When Khan refused to fund it I tweeted angrily at him about him killing the project. Just goes to show you what voting Labour does....Took glamour girls pictures off the tube as well...Khan's an arse. Just like before the Olympics the 'anti' brigade were in full force against the bridge project. Just like they exist for all projects. Well, they won and got their way.....Maybe their can go onto some other projects now and fcuk them up too. Nimbys. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Aug 2017 3.14pm) Many a true word said my friend.
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Originally posted by susmik
Many a true word said my friend.
I've always been a big infrastructure guy.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Why not create something beautiful for generations of Londoners to enjoy and visitors from all over the world. Is it worthwhile is what we should be asking not just the price. Yes from me.
It should be a bridge not a f'in arbour.
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UK will 'mirror' much of EU customs system for Brexit, plans reveal. No point in brexit at all. Let's mirror all of it.......
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Originally posted by steeleye20
UK will 'mirror' much of EU customs system for Brexit, plans reveal. No point in brexit at all. Let's mirror all of it....... You keep things that are of benefit to us. The point of Brexit is to have our own parliament running our country and making our laws rather than a failing EU.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
You keep things that are of benefit to us. The point of Brexit is to have our own parliament running our country and making our laws rather than a failing EU. The UK is failing not the EU. Mrs May and her gang already have too much power. Nobody treats you worse than your own kind and especially the tories.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The UK is failing not the EU. Mrs May and her gang already have too much power. Nobody treats you worse than your own kind and especially the tories. Well perhaps you need to move to the EU then. If you don't like it, when you have the funds, move to where you do like it.
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Well perhaps you need to move to the EU then. I don't need to as the UK is part of the EU.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Well perhaps you need to move to the EU then. I don't need to as the UK is part of the EU. So I take it you're moving when it leaves then....Cool, don't trip up as you go. Which part are you going to?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So I take it you're moving when it leaves then....Cool, don't trip up as you go. Which part are you going to? If it Leaves with a capital 'L'. Brexit lite seems to be gaining traction as rhetoric and blind and destructive ideology quietens and common sense come to the fore. Even Foxy has had some reality checks about Hard.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
UK will 'mirror' much of EU customs system for Brexit, plans reveal. No point in brexit at all. Let's mirror all of it....... I've read the BBC news app and watched channel 4 news and I'm still none the wiser.
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