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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 17 12.32pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What he actually said is:

"We are law-abiding, bill-paying people ... we should pay not a penny more, not a penny less, of what we think our legal obligations amount to.”

The Remoaner spin is pretty pathetic really.

Her said 'go whistle for it' as you know.

 

simlaboy Flag coulsdon 25 Aug 17 12.36pm

I think Grenfell confirms what's really going on in the social housing market, btw where's the guy with the fridge ?

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Aug 17 1.08pm

Originally posted by simlaboy

I think Grenfell confirms what's really going on in the social housing market, btw where's the guy with the fridge ?

Ireland?

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 17 1.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Her said 'go whistle for it' as you know.

He didn't even directly say it - questioned in the House of Commons on whether Brussels should be told to "go whistle", Mr Johnson replied: "I think that the sums that I have seen ... seem to me to be extortionate and I think 'go whistle' is an entirely appropriate expression."

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 17 2.46pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

He didn't even directly say it - questioned in the House of Commons on whether Brussels should be told to "go whistle", Mr Johnson replied: "I think that the sums that I have seen ... seem to me to be extortionate and I think 'go whistle' is an entirely appropriate expression."

That is saying it to normal people H.

Why do you want to defend this upper class twit who leaves a trail of destruction everywhere he goes - this week 940 millions to London taxpayers.

Palace fans will be pleased to know that thanks to Johnson they will be paying West Ham's electricity bill for years to come.

The problem with 350 millions for the NHS etc. is that people just assume you are lying all the time you must have integrity to represent your country at his level - he and Mrs May don't have any.


 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 17 2.50pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

That is saying it to normal people H.

Why do you want to defend this upper class twit who leaves a trail of destruction everywhere he goes - this week 940 millions to London taxpayers.

Palace fans will be pleased to know that thanks to Johnson they will be paying West Ham's electricity bill for years to come.

The problem with 350 millions for the NHS etc. is that people just assume you are lying all the time you must have integrity to represent your country at his level - he and Mrs May don't have any.

No it's not - he was repeating what someone put to him. Why do you want to defend a lost cause?


 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 17 4.03pm

'he was repeating what someone put to him'

So he said it then.

 

crystal balls Flag The Garden of Earthly Delights 25 Aug 17 5.06pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Utter crap. Britain will be in control of its laws. Arbitration is there to resolve disputes. It is a very common and a much trusted method of dispute resolution because it encourages compromise and is generally adjudicated by impartial umpires. Plus the resolution is binding.

You have not a clue what you are talking about.

Britain has always had control of it's laws. The ECJ ruled on European laws, not British laws.

In practice, all they do is answer questions put to them by UK courts on European laws. These laws are in place for the interpretation of individual states courts; the ECJ has never over-ruled any British courts.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 17 5.18pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'he was repeating what someone put to him'

So he said it then.

He agreed with what the person put to him, he didn't come out 'go whistle' himself, he said it was an appropriate expression to use - quite right too.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Aug 17 9.51am

Brexit is being shaped by big business and banks while the interests of ordinary people are being drowned out, a damning new report has concluded.
The analysis of lobbyist activity exposes how big corporations and the finance sector are dominating back-room discussions with negotiators in both London and Brussels.
At the same time small business, labour groups and NGOs are being marginalised, leading campaigners to warn Brexit will be dictated according to a “corporate bias.”

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 28 Aug 17 7.03pm

Michael/Rumpole/one of my other trolls - surely this is a mistake.

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legaleagle Flag 28 Aug 17 11.13pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Michael/Rumpole/one of my other trolls - surely this is a mistake.

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Interesting, Mr Uphimself.

So, the numbers leaving top business schools in Europe coming to work here have dropped in the past year (though remaining as yet top of the list)and the most noteworthy point in the story relegated by the journo to the final para: top four business schools in Europe are all French and our top one (Warwick) comes in only at number 9,a testimony to our ongoing slide in the field.

 

.TUX. Flag 29 Aug 17 7.49am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit is being shaped by big business and banks while the interests of ordinary people are being drowned out, a damning new report has concluded.
The analysis of lobbyist activity exposes how big corporations and the finance sector are dominating back-room discussions with negotiators in both London and Brussels.
At the same time small business, labour groups and NGOs are being marginalised, leading campaigners to warn Brexit will be dictated according to a “corporate bias.”

No change there then.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 29 Aug 17 7.53am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Interesting, Mr Uphimself.

So, the numbers leaving top business schools in Europe coming to work here have dropped in the past year (though remaining as yet top of the list)and the most noteworthy point in the story relegated by the journo to the final para: top four business schools in Europe are all French and our top one (Warwick) comes in only at number 9,a testimony to our ongoing slide in the field.

Thank you Rumpole. That was the answer I was expecting.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

.TUX. Flag 30 Aug 17 9.54pm

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.........'europalace' will be happy though -.-'

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Sep 17 8.07am

EU ban on vacuum cleaners that actually do the job come into force today. The experts at telling you how to run you life say you can't have a 'powerful' cleaner, or one that makes a bit of noise. I expect they have set up some sort of vacuum police who will come round to see if your carpets are clean, and if so, produce a search warrant to find your cleaner of mass destruction. IF found you will be subject to some dreadful punishment - a weekend in Brussels perhaps.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

europalace Flag Europe 01 Sep 17 11.59am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

EU ban on vacuum cleaners that actually do the job come into force today. The experts at telling you how to run you life say you can't have a 'powerful' cleaner, or one that makes a bit of noise. I expect they have set up some sort of vacuum police who will come round to see if your carpets are clean, and if so, produce a search warrant to find your cleaner of mass destruction. IF found you will be subject to some dreadful punishment - a weekend in Brussels perhaps.

Why didn't you post the link? Probably because if anyone reads the article, the decision is actually a very good one for the consumer, even Dyson agrees with the policy. The only person to disagree is A guy from UKIP, who hates the EU and anything European.

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"Sir James Dyson:: You can have a perfectly good vacuum cleaner running with lower energy. The latest Dyson model does qualify under the new EU rules"

"Vacuum cleaner salesman Howard Johnson, who works in Coventry, told BBC News: "People want a more powerful vacuum cleaner but they can't see that more power doesn't mean more suction.
The lower power machines are perfectly adequate, and better for the planet"

There again, as the article states, the UK is perfectly at will to import cheap, low quality and high energy consuming products from China after April 2019.

Edited by europalace (01 Sep 2017 11.59am)

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Sep 17 3.29pm

Originally posted by europalace

Why didn't you post the link? Probably because if anyone reads the article, the decision is actually a very good one for the consumer, even Dyson agrees with the policy. The only person to disagree is A guy from UKIP, who hates the EU and anything European.

[Link]

"Sir James Dyson:: You can have a perfectly good vacuum cleaner running with lower energy. The latest Dyson model does qualify under the new EU rules"

"Vacuum cleaner salesman Howard Johnson, who works in Coventry, told BBC News: "People want a more powerful vacuum cleaner but they can't see that more power doesn't mean more suction.
The lower power machines are perfectly adequate, and better for the planet"

There again, as the article states, the UK is perfectly at will to import cheap, low quality and high energy consuming products from China after April 2019.

Edited by europalace (01 Sep 2017 11.59am)

I notice you didn't include the fact that Dyson Vacuum cleaner entrepreneur Sir James Dyson has been in a court battle with the EU because he says the vacuum standards test doesn't replicate real world conditions. Anyway, the quality of Dysons is vastly exaggerated, they are flimsy and break pretty quickly, the DO lose power/suction and are overly expensive. Their reputation is built on clever marketing. Buy a Henry instead - go in practically any hotel and they will be using one.
As for cheap Chinese imports - it's called free market choice and competition instead of only having the choice of contraptions that somebody in an office in Brussels thinks you should have.

Edited by hedgehog50 (01 Sep 2017 3.32pm)

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Sep 17 4.04pm

We are signed up to this and its difficult to understand why anyone would be against helping the planet deal with our excesses.

Thee are no minuses I can see - reduced bills less emissions carbon - has to be the way.

A weekend in Brussels truly terrible as the EU will agree as they evacuate it for the weekends.

You can't even end brexit by throwing yourself in the river there - there isn't one.


 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Sep 17 5.19pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

We are signed up to this and its difficult to understand why anyone would be against helping the planet deal with our excesses.

Thee are no minuses I can see - reduced bills less emissions carbon - has to be the way.

A weekend in Brussels truly terrible as the EU will agree as they evacuate it for the weekends.

You can't even end brexit by throwing yourself in the river there - there isn't one.


Abolishing the EU with its palatial buildings, forests of paper, fuel emissions from it's travelling circus, dumping of fish, dumping of food, financial attacks on third world farmers, would do more to help the planet than confiscating grannies' hoovers.

 


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