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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 May 21 4.37pm

Originally posted by doombear


Might that be why Hodgson is stalling on a new contract? IMO:
a) either Hodgson has been offered a contract but is stalling for some reason (and it may be that he knows that even he can't do another successful season with the squad he's got, and he's wanting cast-iron assurances that there will be a decent transfer kitty this time round)
or
b) he hasn't been offered one and will be leaving in which case SP will already have someone lined up or there are at least one or more candidates he's talked to.

Or SP wants a change but if nothing materialises Roy knows he is the fall back plan

 

jeeagles Flag 13 May 21 5.10pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Or SP wants a change but if nothing materialises Roy knows he is the fall back plan

Would suspect it is more likely to be this.

Most pundits seem to be of the opinion that Parish can't work out weather he should stick with a low risk manager with no aspirations or to seek a better manager elsewhere.

One reason why Hodgson has lasted so long is possibly because Parish doesn't want to be the man that sacks the oldest ever premier league manager. Another is that it costs a lot of money to sack and recruit managers.

It looks like we'll finish the season on 41 points, a terrible season but thankfully Sheffield United, West Brom, and Fulham were worse. A manager on that total will definitely not be stalling for a new contract if he wants a job next season.

With fans back in the ground, we will need a manager who's slightly more aspiration than just being better than the bottom 3.

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 13 May 21 5.28pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Or SP wants a change but if nothing materialises Roy knows he is the fall back plan

This is precisely what I suspect, and fair play to Parish for putting the club first by exploring all options even if it is a bit rude to Roy.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 13 May 21 5.38pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Would suspect it is more likely to be this.

Most pundits seem to be of the opinion that Parish can't work out weather he should stick with a low risk manager with no aspirations or to seek a better manager elsewhere.

One reason why Hodgson has lasted so long is possibly because Parish doesn't want to be the man that sacks the oldest ever premier league manager. Another is that it costs a lot of money to sack and recruit managers.

It looks like we'll finish the season on 41 points, a terrible season but thankfully Sheffield United, West Brom, and Fulham were worse. A manager on that total will definitely not be stalling for a new contract if he wants a job next season.

With fans back in the ground, we will need a manager who's slightly more aspiration than just being better than the bottom 3.

To be fair, as things stand Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton are worse as well. Could change of course !
And I find some irony that in a results business, Potter is being hailed as the Next Big Thing while Hodgson is treated with such contempt by a percentage of his clubs fans.

We have had this debate before in terms of aspirations, but the pundits have said it, Roy has said it, Parish has said it - first priority is to stay in the League. That's the ' Tone From The Top ' and reflects the approach we see on the pitch.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 13 May 21 5.43pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

This is precisely what I suspect, and fair play to Parish for putting the club first by exploring all options even if it is a bit rude to Roy.

If you dismiss the '' Lampard seen at training ground '' BS, is there any tangible proof that we are even looking for another manager ?

It's a fact that Hodgson will be out of contract, but he himself has ( correctly in my view ) been unwilling to discuss that situation while this season is still in flight. And so the Media are having a field day with the constant speculation around something that may not even happen.

 


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Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 13 May 21 6.00pm

Not following the why would Dyche leave Burnley for Palace mindset.
We have so much scope to to progress as a club. He is ambitious and cant fail to see the Palace set could be the perfect set up for him.
Give DF your preferred targets and let him get on with it whilst Dyche can focus on the team and oversight of the impressive academy.
Plus the expansion (fingers crossed) of the stadium - loads
more going for us than Burnley - who without Dyche would not be premier league club. Everything is Bargain basement they don’t pay £29 million quid transfer fees and £100k per week + wages. (Not that I agree with that mind you) but we are a step up as a club - on the pitch is a much more even comparison - and that can only be as a result of Dyche being an excellent manager.

 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 13 May 21 6.01pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

If you dismiss the '' Lampard seen at training ground '' BS, is there any tangible proof that we are even looking for another manager ?

It's a fact that Hodgson will be out of contract, but he himself has ( correctly in my view ) been unwilling to discuss that situation while this season is still in flight. And so the Media are having a field day with the constant speculation around something that may not even happen.

Agree with your last 2 posts NEILLO.

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 13 May 21 6.24pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

If you dismiss the '' Lampard seen at training ground '' BS, is there any tangible proof that we are even looking for another manager ?

It's a fact that Hodgson will be out of contract, but he himself has ( correctly in my view ) been unwilling to discuss that situation while this season is still in flight. And so the Media are having a field day with the constant speculation around something that may not even happen.

I'm not sure I buy this idea that Hodgson isn't fussed to speak to the club until this season is over. He's been perfectly happy to discuss a new contract mid season before.

For me the proof (well, perhaps more a strong indication than actual proof) that the club are looking at alternatives is that they haven't just extended the employment of the man in the dugout.

 

jeeagles Flag 13 May 21 6.32pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

To be fair, as things stand Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton are worse as well. Could change of course !
And I find some irony that in a results business, Potter is being hailed as the Next Big Thing while Hodgson is treated with such contempt by a percentage of his clubs fans.

We have had this debate before in terms of aspirations, but the pundits have said it, Roy has said it, Parish has said it - first priority is to stay in the League. That's the ' Tone From The Top ' and reflects the approach we see on the pitch.

Potter seemed an odd choice of manager, and I don't really believe the hype. Pundits have got to fill silences and there isn't that much to say about Brighton. They are probably clutching at staws for something positive to say.

Impressive record in Sweden, but its only lower league Swedish football played in front of one man and his huskey.

Average at Swansea finishing mid table.

Can't see why a premiership club would appoint him.

I do think we have better players than Brighton, and it just goes to show, and average manager can keep a side up in this division. There's plenty of alternatives.

 

ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 13 May 21 6.57pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Potter seemed an odd choice of manager, and I don't really believe the hype. Pundits have got to fill silences and there isn't that much to say about Brighton. They are probably clutching at staws for something positive to say.

Impressive record in Sweden, but its only lower league Swedish football played in front of one man and his huskey.

Average at Swansea finishing mid table.

Can't see why a premiership club would appoint him.

I do think we have better players than Brighton, and it just goes to show, and average manager can keep a side up in this division. There's plenty of alternatives.

 

ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 13 May 21 7.01pm

oops! 4th to 1st division and scared Arenal - at Swansea in the league cup he fielded SEVEN DEBUTANTS (men - not young ladies) against us and they played us off the park for an hour before losing 1-0. He's very good - I wanted him at Palace when he was at Swansea, and I've seen no reason to change my mind, look at weeds performances against big clubs compared to ours, esp City and Chelsea. Your opinion is based on confirmation bias.

 

Foxy0208 Flag Blackpool 13 May 21 7.24pm

If Roy goes, whoever we appoint is a risk. If Roy stays we are still at risk anyway due to our ageing squad and apparent lack of funds to replace them.

I am not convinced by Sean Dyche or Eddie Howe. If I had to pick I would say Lampard because i feel he has more to gain by taking the job and in a rebuilding phase he would attract better players.

Whether we could afford them or not is another matter.

I also think Lampard would attract better players at academy level and if the dreaded relegation were to happen in the next couple of seasons, it might be crucial that we have 2 or 3 talented youngsters coming through.

 


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Putitout Flag Oxford 13 May 21 7.47pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I'm not sure I buy this idea that Hodgson isn't fussed to speak to the club until this season is over. He's been perfectly happy to discuss a new contract mid season before.

For me the proof (well, perhaps more a strong indication than actual proof) that the club are looking at alternatives is that they haven't just extended the employment of the man in the dugout.

It’s highly unlikely that Hodgson,and the club don’t know what comes next. It’s us that are left guessing.
It’s very possible a contract has been on the table for some time, but Hodgson, wants to see if the club can give him a squad he stands a chance of working well with.
On the other hand, if the club are going to let Hodgson go, it would be surprising if someone wasn’t already more or less in place. But only they know what they have had to promise to get one worth having. That’s if they get one worth having.
One things for certain, the club know exactly what they have in mind for next year, and Hodgson, will know what his possibilities are, even if whatever it is proves to be totally underwhelming for him and for different reasons most of the fans.

 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 13 May 21 7.58pm

Originally posted by Foxy0208

If Roy goes, whoever we appoint is a risk. If Roy stays we are still at risk anyway due to our ageing squad and apparent lack of funds to replace them.

I am not convinced by Sean Dyche or Eddie Howe. If I had to pick I would say Lampard because i feel he has more to gain by taking the job and in a rebuilding phase he would attract better players.

Whether we could afford them or not is another matter.

I also think Lampard would attract better players at academy level and if the dreaded relegation were to happen in the next couple of seasons, it might be crucial that we have 2 or 3 talented youngsters coming through.

I'm not convinced about Dyche or Howe either, and it is tricky to sort the facts from the rumours and the downright fake news regarding who's going where.

But it seems ever more likely that Howe will end up in Scotland and the financial situation at Burnley is precarious and their investors would prefer Dyche to stay to give some stability.

Lampard has never really figured for me although indications are that he may well be Mr Parish's favourite candidate. His value to us along with his relative youth and first hand experience of the latest technical thinking would be his ability to influence reasonable loanees from Chelsea.

I know much has been said about whether this is a value or not, but without a huge pot of cash at our disposal it may well provide some added value.

As long as we don't go down the Fulham route and rely on loanees too heavily.

 


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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 13 May 21 8.35pm

I don't see Roy being here next season. IMO there's been too much smoke for there not to be fire regarding successors.

Roy doesn't play games via the media and will have his coaching staff to consider. He's equally unlikely to appreciate being the back up plan or the disrespect he's been shown by some sections of the fan base.

I agree with comments about Lampard's use of youth being irrelevant. No comparison between Chelsea's resources and ours or the end of the table at which they're likely to be competing.

 

sprites Flag Auckland 13 May 21 9.12pm

Lampard a bit too green.
Dyche a bit too boring.
Howe seems a decent in between for me. Perfect guy to build a project, but not as much of a risk.

 

kev64 Flag Cambs 13 May 21 9.21pm

I really can’t understand the reasoning as to why the club are dealing with Roy and the out of contract players this way.

Surely by now Roy should have been informed if there is a contract on offer, and if the club want him of not. If not , there has to be a replacement lined up so bring him in. Either way leaving Roy hanging is pretty disrespectful to the guy that’s secured several seasons of prem football and 100s of millions of income to the club.

IMO if Roy was being kept on the club would of said so, absolutely no reason for smoke and mirrors, bad Roy and bad for the team.

 

Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 13 May 21 11.14pm

Originally posted by sprites

Lampard a bit too green.
Dyche a bit too boring.
How seems a decent in between for me. Perfect guy to build a project, but not as much of a risk.

Isn't he taking the Celtic job?

 


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sprites Flag Auckland 14 May 21 12.35am

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

Isn't he taking the Celtic job?

Oh is he? I wasn't sure whether it was confirmed confirmed. That's a shame if so.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 14 May 21 5.55am

Originally posted by sprites

Lampard a bit too green.
Dyche a bit too boring.
Howe seems a decent in between for me. Perfect guy to build a project, but not as much of a risk.

I think Dyche would surprise some people, I believe he can play a better brand of football given the right players. Also should he need to revert to type, he could.

 

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