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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Sep 17 3.30pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Yeah, Labour's stance on Brexit is crystal clear and the party are completely unified on the approach. Like the Tories.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 13 Sep 17 3.30pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Yeah, Labour's stance on Brexit is crystal clear and the party are completely unified on the approach.

Like the Tories.

Hrolf The Ganger 13 Sep 17 3.45pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Like the Tories. The Tories stance is very clear. Full Brexit. Labour's position on Brexit has been nothing short of farcical. It changes from one week to the next in a desperate attempt to appeal to their target voters.

Hrolf The Ganger

13 Sep 17 3.45pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Like the Tories.

The Tories stance is very clear. Full Brexit.

Labour's position on Brexit has been nothing short of farcical. It changes from one week to the next in a desperate attempt to appeal to their target voters.

matt_himself Matataland 13 Sep 17 4.05pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Yeah, Labour's stance on Brexit is crystal clear and the party are completely unified on the approach. How many Tories defied the three line whip on the Great Repeal Bill? And how many Labour MP's did? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 13 Sep 17 4.05pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Yeah, Labour's stance on Brexit is crystal clear and the party are completely unified on the approach.

How many Tories defied the three line whip on the Great Repeal Bill?

And how many Labour MP's did?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Canterbury Palace Whitstable 13 Sep 17 4.08pm
Juncker has announced today plans to federalise Europe further with a single president, a European finance minister who can intervene in each country's affairs, a European army and the standardising of Schengen and the Euro among all EU nations. Showing a clear lack of understanding that those were the exact reasons we left, he went on to say we would regret leaving. Thank God we are. Edited by Canterbury Palace (13 Sep 2017 4.08pm) We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Canterbury Palace

Whitstable 13 Sep 17 4.08pm

Juncker has announced today plans to federalise Europe further with a single president, a European finance minister who can intervene in each country's affairs, a European army and the standardising of Schengen and the Euro among all EU nations.

Showing a clear lack of understanding that those were the exact reasons we left, he went on to say we would regret leaving. Thank God we are.

Edited by Canterbury Palace (13 Sep 2017 4.08pm)

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Sep 17 4.35pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Yeah, Labour's stance on Brexit is crystal clear and the party are completely unified on the approach. That article was written by a Tory MSP Brexiteer who was part of the Leave.EU campaign. Hardly an unbiased source. Groups he's part of have lead campaigns to get Tories deselected who aren't ardent Brexiteers (most prominently spreadsheet Phil). Leave.EU was Farage's motley crew and not the official Leave Campaign. I would therefore dismiss it entirely as anything other than extreme partisan bias against a party whose stance is to maintain the single market status for as long as it takes to get a deal which replicates or betters its benefits (i.e. ages). The Tories' stance is much more muddled than Labour's

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 13 Sep 17 4.35pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Yeah, Labour's stance on Brexit is crystal clear and the party are completely unified on the approach.

That article was written by a Tory MSP Brexiteer who was part of the Leave.EU campaign. Hardly an unbiased source. Groups he's part of have lead campaigns to get Tories deselected who aren't ardent Brexiteers (most prominently spreadsheet Phil). Leave.EU was Farage's motley crew and not the official Leave Campaign.

I would therefore dismiss it entirely as anything other than extreme partisan bias against a party whose stance is to maintain the single market status for as long as it takes to get a deal which replicates or betters its benefits (i.e. ages).

The Tories' stance is much more muddled than Labour's

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Sep 17 4.37pm
Originally posted by matt_himself How many Tories defied the three line whip on the Great Repeal Bill? And how many Labour MP's did? How many Tories ran straight out of the chamber to propose significant amendments to the bill. Their votes are simply to avoid toppling their own government not in support of a dictatorial cliff edge mental Brexit.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 13 Sep 17 4.37pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

How many Tories defied the three line whip on the Great Repeal Bill?

And how many Labour MP's did?

How many Tories ran straight out of the chamber to propose significant amendments to the bill. Their votes are simply to avoid toppling their own government not in support of a dictatorial cliff edge mental Brexit.

snytaxx London 13 Sep 17 4.53pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle How many Tories ran straight out of the chamber to propose significant amendments to the bill. Their votes are simply to avoid toppling their own government not in support of a dictatorial cliff edge mental Brexit. I've got my remoaner 'unsubstantiated whinging rhetoric' bingo card out - anyone else want play?, and i've already got an early hit there fore 'cliff edge'. If I could get an "extreme brexit" and a "no one knew what they were voting for" out of you fairly soon i'd be well on my way to getting a line. Now to actually answer your point... It doesn't matter if people amend the bill, hell i'd probably support most of the amendments myself. What matters is getting brexit through one step at a time in some way shape or form, not shooting the whole thing down because a few democratic results didn't suit your own personal agenda....

snytaxx

London 13 Sep 17 4.53pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

I've got my remoaner 'unsubstantiated whinging rhetoric' bingo card out - anyone else want play?, and i've already got an early hit there fore 'cliff edge'. If I could get an "extreme brexit" and a "no one knew what they were voting for" out of you fairly soon i'd be well on my way to getting a line.

Now to actually answer your point... It doesn't matter if people amend the bill, hell i'd probably support most of the amendments myself. What matters is getting brexit through one step at a time in some way shape or form, not shooting the whole thing down because a few democratic results didn't suit your own personal agenda....

Stirlingsays 13 Sep 17 5.02pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle How many Tories ran straight out of the chamber to propose significant amendments to the bill. Their votes are simply to avoid toppling their own government not in support of a dictatorial cliff edge mental Brexit. You didn't answer the questions and instead set you're own....Is this a 'progressive' thing? Well, you didn't set those questions to me, but I'll answer them anyway. Dictatorial.....nope, that's the EU, who you support. Brexit is the opposite of that......We had a vote and brexit won. The form of Brexit is for the politicians to decide on.....For now. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 5.04pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Sep 17 5.02pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You didn't answer the questions and instead set you're own....Is this a 'progressive' thing?

Well, you didn't set those questions to me, but I'll answer them anyway.

Dictatorial.....nope, that's the EU, who you support.

Brexit is the opposite of that......We had a vote and brexit won. The form of Brexit is for the politicians to decide on.....For now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 5.04pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

davenotamonkey 14 Sep 17 12.13am
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question; are all you Brexiteers genuinely happy with how things seem to be going currently? You post this on the day of the "state of the union"?! The event where the EU desperately attempts to confer legitimacy to itself as a fledgling democratic unified superstate. Did you read the s* they have in the can? Is this the "we're listening to your concerns" EU populism drive? Who are they appealing to? I'm happy. Very happy merely by virtue of leaving the monstrosity. I'd be a crap negotiator, because by this stage I'd be signing anything under my nose to get us the hell away for what's in store for the remaining "member states" (remember never to refer to them as countries in their own right - they need to get used to their subjugation and capitulation). But otherwise, yeah. It's fine. I'd want more teeth from the UK, a firmer stance, and some hard lines on the consequences of continued negative briefing from the EU side, but that's not really the British way. I'd prefer walking away and setting up a trade deal with them when they can't use the two year Damocles sword to pressure us into a deal we'll regret. I genuinely worry they will try to bind us in a huge network of interlinked inflexible bilateral agreements with guillotine clauses designed to bring the whole agreement down. This is what the Swiss have to put up with. Meanwhile, idiots on here actually believing all the briefing and handily leaked nuggets from the EU side, blissfully ignorant of the tactics they've used in the past in very similar circumstances against the Greeks (Go read some Varoufakis). It's kind of cute watching them naively swallowing the misinformation mainlined from the EU and regurgitating it on here. Stupid British! Thick Tories! Incompetent Davis! Useless Government! Bigot Brexit! Brexs*! Go watch the "state of the union". Go read the last 5 president's report. You can thank us leavers later. Or don't bother, not fussed.

davenotamonkey

14 Sep 17 12.13am

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question; are all you Brexiteers genuinely happy with how things seem to be going currently?

You post this on the day of the "state of the union"?! The event where the EU desperately attempts to confer legitimacy to itself as a fledgling democratic unified superstate.

Did you read the s*** they have in the can? Is this the "we're listening to your concerns" EU populism drive? Who are they appealing to?

I'm happy. Very happy merely by virtue of leaving the monstrosity. I'd be a crap negotiator, because by this stage I'd be signing anything under my nose to get us the hell away for what's in store for the remaining "member states" (remember never to refer to them as countries in their own right - they need to get used to their subjugation and capitulation).

But otherwise, yeah. It's fine. I'd want more teeth from the UK, a firmer stance, and some hard lines on the consequences of continued negative briefing from the EU side, but that's not really the British way. I'd prefer walking away and setting up a trade deal with them when they can't use the two year Damocles sword to pressure us into a deal we'll regret. I genuinely worry they will try to bind us in a huge network of interlinked inflexible bilateral agreements with guillotine clauses designed to bring the whole agreement down. This is what the Swiss have to put up with.

Meanwhile, idiots on here actually believing all the briefing and handily leaked nuggets from the EU side, blissfully ignorant of the tactics they've used in the past in very similar circumstances against the Greeks (Go read some Varoufakis). It's kind of cute watching them naively swallowing the misinformation mainlined from the EU and regurgitating it on here. Stupid British! Thick Tories! Incompetent Davis! Useless Government! Bigot Brexit! Brexs***!

Go watch the "state of the union". Go read the last 5 president's report. You can thank us leavers later. Or don't bother, not fussed.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 1.02am
Will the uberarmy will try and invade us? Don't member states have power of veto on any of the (in places quite ludicrous) report?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 1.02am

Will the uberarmy will try and invade us?

Don't member states have power of veto on any of the (in places quite ludicrous) report?

hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Sep 17 8.14am
Originally posted by nickgusset Will the uberarmy will try and invade us? Don't member states have power of veto on any of the (in places quite ludicrous) report? The Germans do have form on this - and the French and Dutch come to that. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 14 Sep 17 8.14am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Will the uberarmy will try and invade us?

Don't member states have power of veto on any of the (in places quite ludicrous) report?

The Germans do have form on this - and the French and Dutch come to that.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

.TUX. 14 Sep 17 8.25am
Originally posted by DanH Genuine question; are all you Brexiteers genuinely happy with how things seem to be going currently? Yes. The added bonus being that it's funnier than i thought it would be. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

14 Sep 17 8.25am

Originally posted by DanH

Genuine question; are all you Brexiteers genuinely happy with how things seem to be going currently?

Yes.
The added bonus being that it's funnier than i thought it would be.

Buy Litecoin.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Sep 17 1.16am
Boris with his pants on fire. Again. [Tweet Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Sep 17 1.16am

Boris with his pants on fire. Again.

[Tweet Link]

hedgehog50 Croydon 18 Sep 17 9.19am
Originally posted by nickgusset Boris with his pants on fire. Again. [Tweet Link] Did Sir David Norgrove, the stats guy, actually read what Boris said: "Once we have settled our accounts, we will take back control of roughly £350 million per week. It would be a fine thing, as many of us have pointed out, if a lot of that money went on the NHS, provided we use that cash injection to modernise and make the most of new technology." Norgrove's intervention calls into doubt the neutrality of his office into doubt - similar to the sniping of the Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 18 Sep 17 9.19am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Boris with his pants on fire. Again.

[Tweet Link]

Did Sir David Norgrove, the stats guy, actually read what Boris said:
"Once we have settled our accounts, we will take back control of roughly £350 million per week. It would be a fine thing, as many of us have pointed out, if a lot of that money went on the NHS, provided we use that cash injection to modernise and make the most of new technology."
Norgrove's intervention calls into doubt the neutrality of his office into doubt - similar to the sniping of the Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Kermit8 Hevon 18 Sep 17 9.56am
The only thing necessary for the triumph of Boris is that good men do nothing. Well done stats guy for speaking out. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 18 Sep 17 9.56am

The only thing necessary for the triumph of Boris is that good men do nothing.

Well done stats guy for speaking out.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Charlie Croker Hampshire 22 Sep 17 3.01pm
Theresa May saying we'll continue to pay for certain EU funded policies after 2019 . . . “My experience of life is that it is not divided up into genres; it’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you’re lucky."

Charlie Croker

Hampshire 22 Sep 17 3.01pm

Theresa May saying we'll continue to pay for certain EU funded policies after 2019 . . .

“My experience of life is that it is not divided up into genres; it’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you’re lucky."

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Sep 17 3.07pm
Originally posted by Charlie Croker Theresa May saying we'll continue to pay for certain EU funded policies after 2019 . . . We'll be paying for Brexit for a lot longer than that I fear.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 22 Sep 17 3.07pm

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Theresa May saying we'll continue to pay for certain EU funded policies after 2019 . . .

We'll be paying for Brexit for a lot longer than that I fear.

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Sep 17 5.22pm
Originally posted by Charlie Croker Theresa May saying we'll continue to pay for certain EU funded policies after 2019 . . . We shall have to wait and see what funded policies she means by that statement it could be something or nothing. So until we know for definite there is not a lot ANY of us can say or do I am afraid. There is a long way to go yet. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Sep 17 5.22pm

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Theresa May saying we'll continue to pay for certain EU funded policies after 2019 . . .

We shall have to wait and see what funded policies she means by that statement it could be something or nothing. So until we know for definite there is not a lot ANY of us can say or do I am afraid. There is a long way to go yet.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Sep 17 5.24pm
Originally posted by nickgusset We'll be paying for Brexit for a lot longer than that I fear. As long as we get Brexit over and get back to being "Great Britain" again I shall be happy. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Sep 17 5.24pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

We'll be paying for Brexit for a lot longer than that I fear.

As long as we get Brexit over and get back to being "Great Britain" again I shall be happy.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

Kermit8 Hevon 22 Sep 17 5.46pm
Originally posted by susmik As long as we get Brexit over and get back to being "Great Britain" again I shall be happy. We have been Great Britain for 310 years now. Nothing has changed. 'Great' in GB does not mean 'really good' if anyone doesn't know that already Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 22 Sep 17 5.46pm

Originally posted by susmik

As long as we get Brexit over and get back to being "Great Britain" again I shall be happy.

We have been Great Britain for 310 years now. Nothing has changed.

'Great' in GB does not mean 'really good' if anyone doesn't know that already

Big chest and massive boobs

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